IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN

Too bad it won't.

I'm betting it will happen once Sony feels like selling PS2 games on their Store.

Well, Rayman 2: Revolution was rated for PS3, and that's a PS2 game.  Albeit a PS One port.  It could still mean something.

That would be awesome

It's not going to happen...ever.

Taking it out was probably an undisclosed part of their "The PS2 is still alive!" campaign.

"Well, Rayman 2: Revolution was rated for PS3, and that's a PS2 game.  Albeit a PS One port.  It could still mean something."

It won't, but your username is pretty dope, son.

60gigger wins.

Don't expect backwards compatibility thorugh a patch right now, maybe next year... if that. I'm no longer sure it will ever be added.

I doubt it will ever happen Sony cant afford to spend any more money.

"I doubt it will ever happen Sony cant afford to spend any more money."

I seriously hope it does. I really want to play the early metal gear games, and the early ratchet and clank games.

its never going to be added get over it

It will happen eventually I think. Sony is just trying to milk every last ounce the PS2 has left and when the PS2 is completely gone, they will eventually release a firmware with PS2 emulator I'm sure.

Sony has gone on record as saying their lie about 100% BC for all PS systems was just blowhard nonsense that they knew they would never support.  The pissed in all of our faces and disrespected loyal customers since the PS1 days w/ a meager offering of PS1 games on PSN and the outright removal of PS2 BC in all newer consoles.

If sony could open our mouths and take a dump down our throats right now, they would just for spite and bravado.  the idea that the company who killed the Dreamcast PS1 emu even tho it improved their own games, just because they could leads us to expect no software emu ever.

"If sony could open our mouths and take a dump down our throats right now, they would just for spite and bravado.  the idea that the company who killed the Dreamcast PS1 emu even tho it improved their own games, just because they could leads us to expect no software emu ever."

Sony, and any other company with business sense for that matter, will do stuff when there is money to be made. Right now it's more profitable to squeeze the ps2 for what it is worth.

Thanks for getting my hopes up with the title and then instantly dashing them with your caps lock wishes.

Don't think it will happen.

How could it happen? isn't it a hardware thing?

It did already happen to past SKUs but they took it out. Sony shouldn't be spending thier energy on shit like that anyway since it still has a lot of ground to cover to stay competitive. Almost everyone has a PS2 and the damn things are still selling, so there is not rush other than you specifically want it. If you do want it that bad track down a older gen PS3 that still has it.

I have a launch 60GB, So I'm fine....

**Slowly walks away**

"How could it happen? isn't it a hardware thing?"

"The 80gb version got patched for BC, so it's possible for the 40gb, who knows."

When the PS2 stops getting sold at retail, and no-one produces games for it anymore... then maybe it will get patched... But the PS2 is still selling like hotcakes around the world, games are still being developed. Its good business that they havn't done it yet.

Impossible. There is no 100% way of emulating PS2 games by software. The lack of any PS2 hardware is what's holding it back.

"There is no 100% way of emulating PS2 games by software.

"siLVUR said:

"There is no 100% way of emulating PS2 games by software.

Oh, now I'm interested. Why is it impossible to ever emulate the PS2 via software? Just curious."

"roushimsx said:

"siLVUR said:

"There is no 100% way of emulating PS2 games by software.

Oh, now I'm interested. Why is it impossible to ever emulate the PS2 via software? Just curious."

Because not even hackers have figured out a guarantee way?"

To the other people who said it'll never happen, do you also think it is technically unfeasible or is it that you don't think Sony ever wants to make money off selling PS2 games digitally?"

It should happen ( in my opinion ), but there are no signs of Sony doing it anytime soon... if at all. Tragically, BC is one of the cornerstones of the PS2, and something Sony touted as a strong selling point. From a financial standpoint, I can see why they abandoned it in the already struggling PS3 (at the time they removed the emotion engine chip from the hardware), but that doesn't make the loss of backwards compatibility any easier to swallow.

A patch is the only option at this time, but the man hours that must go into emulating the games on the PS3 must be nothing short of astronomical, and way too expensive to justify. 

"Kamasama said:

To the other people who said it'll never happen, do you also think it is technically unfeasible or is it that you don't think Sony ever wants to make money off selling PS2 games digitally?"

I am not sure why everyone assumes that Sony will release a backwards compatibility patch to the public in order to sell PS2 games from their store.  Those two things are not completely tied together.  For example, they could patch games on a one by one basis.  Only the patched version from the PSN store would work; not the unpatched disc version.  Or if they do develop a general backwards compatibility patch, Sony could keep it for themselves and make only it work with downloaded games.

Why would Sony do these things?  Why to make you buy your old games over again of course.  I am sure they could get sales out of people who want to play Metal Solid 3 or God of War or any of the other premier PS2 games, even if those people already own them.  Heck, Xbox sells games that do work with backwards compatibility, and they sell well enough that Microsoft keeps doing it.  If your only option is to re-buy these classics, I could see it working out well for Sony."

Anyone that cares about the BC on the PS3 would have bought one that has it a long time ago. This is what you guys get for trying to jump in on the bandwagon late.

"Anyone that cares about the BC on the PS3 would have bought one that has it a long time ago."

"Anyone that cares about the BC on the PS3 would have bought one that has it a long time ago. This is what you guys get for trying to jump in on the bandwagon late."

I bought my 60GB during launch.

I'm sure it's not a software thing that's stopping them from allowing everything to have BC.

it is technically possible to make a full software PS2 emu, but it will of course take enormous time, money and talent.  The result will be a buggy incomplete emu w/ terrible framerates, audio glitches and numerous other problems.

Sony does not want to invest money in something like that for so little return, especially since even the 60gb STILL has bugs on some games and it's using HARDWARE EMU, if you get bugs w/ hardware emu, imagine how problematic the software emu will be from the same company.

That + sony hates gamers + sony loves lies.

THE PS3 is FUTUER PROOF!  1080p games at 60fps!!!!  oh wait, they meant 1 game will be 1080p 60fps, gran turismo 5 and every other game will be 600p 26fps and tons of jaggies

That + sony hates gamers + sony loves lies.

THE PS3 is FUTUER PROOF!  1080p games at 60fps!!!!  oh wait, they meant 1 game will be 1080p 60fps, gran turismo 5 and every other game will be 600p 26fps and tons of jaggies"

"Hexpane said:

That + sony hates gamers + sony loves lies.

THE PS3 is FUTUER PROOF!  1080p games at 60fps!!!!  oh wait, they meant 1 game will be 1080p 60fps, gran turismo 5 and every other game will be 600p 26fps and tons of jaggies"

You had me until that part.  you really did..."

"Gameboi said:

"Hexpane said:

That + sony hates gamers + sony loves lies.

THE PS3 is FUTUER PROOF!  1080p games at 60fps!!!!  oh wait, they meant 1 game will be 1080p 60fps, gran turismo 5 and every other game will be 600p 26fps and tons of jaggies"

You had me until that part.  you really did..."

I'm being a drama queen, but those are indeed quotes from Sony.
DId they not promise a "Future proof" console?  Did sony not say "1080p 60fps TRUE HD?" "

"Hexpane said:

"Gameboi said:

"Hexpane said:

That + sony hates gamers + sony loves lies.

THE PS3 is FUTUER PROOF!  1080p games at 60fps!!!!  oh wait, they meant 1 game will be 1080p 60fps, gran turismo 5 and every other game will be 600p 26fps and tons of jaggies"

You had me until that part.  you really did..."

I'm being a drama queen, but those are indeed quotes from Sony.
DId they not promise a "Future proof" console?  Did sony not say "1080p 60fps TRUE HD?" "

WipeOut HD runs at that, if developers want to make a game that runs that way they can, anyway run away little troll. Games in both the ps3 and the 360 mostly do not run at the resolutions advertised ie Halo 3 says 720 p but its actually 640 pixels tall. Everyone does it, still 1080p at 60fps I think is only possible on the ps3 and a pc."

Yeah , it needs to, but it won't until PS2 completely fades out.

I'm being a drama queen, but those are indeed quotes from Sony.
DId they not promise a "Future proof" console?  Did sony not say "1080p 60fps TRUE HD?" "

"Hexpane said:

I'm being a drama queen, but those are indeed quotes from Sony.
DId they not promise a "Future proof" console?  Did sony not say "1080p 60fps TRUE HD?" "

True, but all three of these guys blow smoke up our butts on a daily basis.  I will agree that Sony has turned it into an art form, but I blame Ken Kutaragi  for that one ;-)"

"chililili said:

"Hexpane said:

"Gameboi said:

"Hexpane said:

That + sony hates gamers + sony loves lies.

THE PS3 is FUTUER PROOF!  1080p games at 60fps!!!!  oh wait, they meant 1 game will be 1080p 60fps, gran turismo 5 and every other game will be 600p 26fps and tons of jaggies"

You had me until that part.  you really did..."

I'm being a drama queen, but those are indeed quotes from Sony.
DId they not promise a "Future proof" console?  Did sony not say "1080p 60fps TRUE HD?" "

WipeOut HD runs at that, if developers want to make a game that runs that way they can, anyway run away little troll. Games in both the ps3 and the 360 mostly do not run at the resolutions advertised ie Halo 3 says 720 p but its actually 640 pixels tall. Everyone does it, still 1080p at 60fps I think is only possible on the ps3 and a pc."

ROFL so they just don't want to make games 1080p?  "if they want to they can"?    Your halo example is simply proving the point.   Both XBOX and PS3 games (the vast majority) are not even MIN HD 720p.  They are SUB HD

Sony said FUTURE PROOF, but the games are not even 720p HD, which is 2005 specs.   PC games are already running nicely at 1440p.  How is 640p future proof?  You can attack me and call me a "troll" but what exactly am I 'trolling"  I'm pointing out why it would be a technical nightmare for sony to try and get true software EMU on a PS3 for PS2 games and have it run without horrendous technical flaws.

If you don't like the truth, go hide your head in the sand."

So we agree that it's a bit gimp to have HD future proof consoles running games at 600p native then?  But we disagree about this idea that "devs don't want to"

Here is my example.  Fallout 3 runs fine at 1440p native.  So they devs indeed do want to run it in high res.  However the PS3 and XBOX can not handle that, so they are FORCED to gimp it down to 720p (or it looks like even lower on the PS3, more like 640p)  they have no choice.

In my opinion (but maybe I'm just too hopeful or optimistic) Sony will release a BC patch sometime within the next year, mainly because 09 will probably be the last year of the PS2, at least in the major territories (PS2 is just starting to take off in some of the third-world countries, so I'm not counting them). Sony wants to get current PS2 owners to upgrade to a PS3, and lets face it, that is a lot more appealing if you don't throw away an entire generation of games.