Best third-person shooters for PS3?

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#1 Edited by Morrow (1829 posts) -

Hey guys, I once again need your advice and opinions :)

After refusing to play shooters for years (because I'm unskilled at shooting, not because I believe they're actually harmful), I found myself enjoying the gameplay of Mass Effect 2 a lot. So I'd really like to try out other third-person shooters, but I'm totally uninformed when it comes to releases of that genre. I know that the RPG part of ME is a big reason why I enjoyed the game as much as I did, but I think I could also do without it if the plot is good and or/ the gameplay is fun enough. Of course, if you know any TPS with RPG elements, throw them at me!

I can remember stopping to play Uncharted 1 because I sucked at the shooting, but I probably have to try again. However, I appreciate easy aiming, or auto lock-on using a button, much like in ME, or the VATS in Fallout 3 and NV.

Titles that got my attention so far are:

Spec Ops: The Line

Binary Domain

Quantum Theory

Vanquish

But I haven't played any of them yet. I'd appreciate any recommendations of games meeting my criteria :)

Oh, and the PS3 is my only console btw.

#2 Posted by StarvingGamer (8247 posts) -

Is your PS3 backwards compatible?

Then I suggest you play Psi-Ops.

Other than that, if you haven't played it yet maybe Saints Row: the Third? Granted, I'm playing it on PC so YMMV. Personally I can't stand Dual Analog for any sort of shooting. KB&M all the way baybeh!

#3 Posted by Nottle (1914 posts) -

Uncharted 1,2, and 3?

I love vanquish, and have heard real good things about Spec ops and Binary Domain. Wasn't Quantum Theory kind of crappy though.

#4 Edited by believer258 (11914 posts) -

Quantam Theory is generally considered a bad game.

On the subject of Uncharted 1, don't feel bad for not being able to shoot well in it. Its shooting feels kind of wonky in the first place, which isn't helped by some wildly varying difficulty spikes. Sometimes I felt like I was playing on the piss-easy difficulty, and other times I felt like I was playing on the "fuck you" difficulty, when I was really playing on what was supposedly normal.

And I'm the guy who ran through Gears of War 3 on Hardcore, first time, with only something like 12 deaths. I'm no stranger to shooting games.

Anyway, I recommend Vanquish, it's pretty fun though its story is incredibly stupid, and apparently Binary Domain is something special.

EDIT: Also Dead Space, if you don't mind gore and disturbing horror. Like, lots of gore. And lots of disturbing things. Also it doesn't use a cover system and takes place in a lot of dark corridors, so it's a little different than what most other TPS games do.

#5 Posted by Phatmac (5726 posts) -

Alpha Protocol is a third person shooter with a good story. You should try infamous since it is kind of a TPS, but with other elements.

#6 Posted by Klei (1768 posts) -

Uncharted 1 2 3, Dead Space, RE5.

#7 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@StarvingGamer:

No, it isn't, but I stopped playing games without trophies a while back anyways ^^

I actually have SR:TT on my Amazon wishlist :D

#8 Posted by Do_The_Manta_Ray (664 posts) -

Good god, man. Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 3 are THE shooters that you should be playing on your PS3. That said; I'd also recommend Shadows of the Damned. The action is surprisingly solid and the humour is absolutely great. Feels like a very nostalgic trip back to the days of Pain Killer for reason. The game itself is clearly structured after Resident Evil 4, mind.

Actually, you know what? Strike all that. They're all really great games, but you should, without a doubt, hop on the Dead Space bandwagon before anything else. Spectacular atmosphere and truly great controls. Probably the only shooter in the last generation that doesn't have you crouching behind walls, and god, is that refreshing. Both Dead Space 1 and 2 are great games, though the second one is clearly more action-oriented than the first. And no, you do not need to have played the first in order to enjoy the second, but it'd help sure enough.

#9 Edited by Bulby33 (590 posts) -

Mass Effect 2's shooting and general difficulty is pretty easy compared to other actual third-person shooters like Vanquish, so you may trouble jumping into a game like that. I think that Mass Effect 3's shooting is a lot better and more fluid than Mass Effect 2's shooting, though, so maybe try that too. As for other third-person shooters I'd go with Vanquish, Dead Space 2 (Dead Space 1 has more exploration), Warhammer 40K: Space Marine, and maybe Resident Evil 5. 
 
EDIT: Fuck, how could I forget about the Uncharted trilogy? They would be my number one choice.

#10 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@Phatmac said:

Alpha Protocol is a third person shooter with a good story. You should try infamous since it is kind of a TPS, but with other elements.

I was pretty interested in Alpha Protocol when it came out, it seemed like the perfect game for me, but user ratings were rather low. I also read that it was advertised as having freedom of choice, which it didn't have in the end. Mind to give your opinion? ^^

I also played Infamous a while back and just recently picked it up again for some trophy hunting, so getting Infamous 2 is definately a possibility ^^

Thanks!

#11 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

Valkyria Chronicles! (I know) but technically is a shooter right?!, though it doesn't have trophies .... you should still play that game.

#12 Posted by Galiant (2193 posts) -

@Do_The_Manta_Ray said:

Probably the only shooter in the last generation that doesn't have you crouching behind walls, and god, is that refreshing.

Space Marine!

#13 Edited by Spoonman671 (4640 posts) -

Remove Quantum Theory from your list.
 
I recommend playing the Uncharted games on easy.  All enemies in Drake's Fortune are bullet sponges, I don't remember having problems with Among Thieves, and Drake's Deception has some really frustrating scenarios where they throw a ton of enemies at you of varying difficulty.
 
Dead Space games are good, though I recommend the first over the second.
 
Infamous 2 is good if you don't mind the open-world thing.  Again, I think I would have enjoyed this more if I had played it on easy.  Later in the game you'll find yourself getting hit from off-screen by rocket-snipers a whole lot.
 
Metal Gear Solid 4?  Hard to universally recommend a Metal Gear game.
 
Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine is awesome.
 
Sniper Elite V2 is pretty cool.  If you like to shoot things with sniper rifles, this game is for you.  Checkpoints suck though.
 
Starhawk is another great game, but it's primarily a multiplayer game.  Not well balanced, but still a ton of fun.
 
Twisted Metal?  I don't know if that counts.
 
EDIT: And I'd also like to reassure you about trying Vanquish.  It's super-cool.

#14 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@Do_The_Manta_Ray:

Well as I said, I might have to try to get into the Uncharted franchise after dropping the first one. Back then, I wasn't very successful at shooting anyone... :D

I watched a video about all the death scenes in Dead Space 2 on Youtube, and, erm, that's not really the kind of game I want to play. It gave me nightmares! Well, not exactly nightmares, but my dreams that night were definately inspired by it :D

I stopped playing Shadows of the Damned because I didn't like it. Maybe it's aimed mainly at a male audience, and while Garcia Hotspur is nice to look at, the game itself didn't appeal to me at all. But I also don't like other Suda51 games...

#15 Posted by Phatmac (5726 posts) -

@Morrow: I haven't played it, but have heard good things if you want a decent story. I think you'd like infamous 2 since it doesn't rely too much on third person accurate shooting. Also Dead Space 2 is a must.

#16 Posted by BlackLagoon (1431 posts) -

The Tomb Raider Trilogy will give you three "shooter light" games with auto-aim and lots of exploration to pace out the combat.

Ratchet & Clank are fun shooters with some platforming. They're not that hard and you can always level up and upgrade the weapons to give yourself an edge.

Alpha Protocol is a bit Mass Effecty with a spy twist. It can be a bit clunky, but the trick is to rely on stealth and your activated skills to get yourself through the tougher combat scenarios.

Also, there's no shame in playing on easy. I do pretty well on third person shooters, but FPSes eat me alive and I rarely bother with higher difficulties.

#17 Posted by SlightConfuse (3963 posts) -

shadows of the damned

#18 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@AngelN7 said:

Valkyria Chronicles! (I know) but technically is a shooter right?!, though it doesn't have trophies .... you should still play that game.

Oh, I played it :) And I liked it. A trophy patch would probably make me play it again (and finish it) but that will probably never happen...

#19 Posted by WarlordPayne (700 posts) -

Quantum Theory is garbage, I wouldn't waste my time with it.

Vanquish is pretty great, but the story is ridiculous and stupid. It's also a very fast paced TPS due to all the dashing around so if you have a hard time with shooting it may be very hard for you. You should give the demo a try before you spend any money on it.

I believe Max Payne 3 has several auto lock options and a lot of people seem to like that game, so it may be an option.

You can skip Uncharted 1 and go right to Uncharted 2, it's a much better game.

If you can tolerate some rough edges Alpha Protocol is a TPS/RPG and is pretty incredible.

Saints Row:The Third and The Saboteur don't really fit your criteria, but they're essentially open world TPSs so you have some other stuff to do rather than just shoot all the time and they're both great.

#20 Posted by AngelN7 (2970 posts) -

@Morrow said:

@AngelN7 said:

Valkyria Chronicles! (I know) but technically is a shooter right?!, though it doesn't have trophies .... you should still play that game.

Oh, I played it :) And I liked it. A trophy patch would probably make me play it again (and finish it) but that will probably never happen...

Awesome! yeah I woudn't expect SEGA to do something like Konami is for MGS4 , I can think in many cool trophies for that game wich is a shame it isn't getting any.

#21 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@BlackLagoon said:

The Tomb Raider Trilogy will give you three "shooter light" games with auto-aim and lots of exploration to pace out the combat.

Oh, now that sounds really good! :D

You mean the HD Collection? Might give that one a go, thank you! ^^

#22 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@believer258 said:

EDIT: Also Dead Space, if you don't mind gore and disturbing horror. Like, lots of gore. And lots of disturbing things. Also it doesn't use a cover system and takes place in a lot of dark corridors, so it's a little different than what most other TPS games do.

Yeah, people throw Dead Space at me, but I watched a video on YouTube showing all death scenes in Dead Space 2, and I was pretty grossed out... however, I never really played any horror games, so I might try it sometime. Does it at least have some other tasks and is the plot good? It seems to be rather popular so I take it's not only mindless shooting?

#23 Edited by Spoonman671 (4640 posts) -

Oh, oh, oh!  I got one!
 
I think the Ratchet and Clank games might be just what you're looking for.  They're platformers/shooters with weapons that upgrade as you use them.  The HD collection comes out at the end of August in the US (I think it's out everywhere else though) and the PS3 games are great too.  A Crack in Time is probably the best in the series, but you can try Quest for Booty for relatively cheap via the Platystation Store to see if it scratches your itch.
 
@Morrow said:

@believer258 said:

EDIT: Also Dead Space, if you don't mind gore and disturbing horror. Like, lots of gore. And lots of disturbing things. Also it doesn't use a cover system and takes place in a lot of dark corridors, so it's a little different than what most other TPS games do.

Yeah, people throw Dead Space at me, but I watched a video on YouTube showing all death scenes in Dead Space 2, and I was pretty grossed out... however, I never really played any horror games, so I might try it sometime. Does it at least have some other tasks and is the plot good? It seems to be rather popular so I take it's not only mindless shooting?


The first game has less of the over-the-top goriness, but it's still a horror game--plenty of blood and guts.  There's a fair amount of simple puzzle-solving, and things like your stasis and kinesis ability help vary up the gameplay a bit.
#24 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@Spoonman671:

Oh yeah, Tools of Destruction was actually one of my very first PS3 games, and I enjoyed it a lot! I might get further into the franchise, thanks! :)

#25 Edited by pyromagnestir (4324 posts) -

Play Uncharted 1 on easy. That's what I did and it was great.

I played a bit of the PC version of Alpha Protocol and it seemed pretty good. I think that even though there is a lot of character upgrade paths, there are a few specific skills that are probably wiser choices than others as from what I understand the boss fights can leave you fucked if you don't pick the right skills. Also I was playing that on easy too.

If you really don't want games without achievements then Saints Row 2 is disqualified.

Ok looking over my achievements...

Orcs Must Die? Maybe... I liked it a lot, but might not be what you're looking for. Eh, that's all I got. EDIT (aw crap, not even out on PS3... sorry.)

#26 Posted by Spoonman671 (4640 posts) -
@Morrow: If that's the case, then you've already got the story setup for A Crack in Time.  An intro movie will remind you of the important events from Tools of Destruction.  You shouldn't have any problem settling into the story.
#27 Posted by VoleMaulder (63 posts) -

While Alpha Protocol is very good if you get around its rough edges, it's not really a third person shooter. It's more of an RPG through and through. You can't even shoot straight until you level up the appropriate skills. So, if you like RPGs, which I gather that you do, give it a try sometime. It's pretty cheap now. And you may be surprised by how good it can be.

However, since you're looking for TPSes now, and since you played and liked ME 2, I would recommend continuing to ME 3. It's much better and more fluid than 2 and it will be a good stepping stone towards "purer" 3rd person shooters.

#28 Posted by BlackLagoon (1431 posts) -

@Morrow said:

I was pretty interested in Alpha Protocol when it came out, it seemed like the perfect game for me, but user ratings were rather low. I also read that it was advertised as having freedom of choice, which it didn't have in the end. Mind to give your opinion? ^^

It's an utterly fascinating game to replay, because you can constantly see how even your choices and even in mission behavior affect things. While the actual missions don't change that much, the details surrounding them can differ wildly. Also, Steven Heck.

It can be a bit hard to get to grips with though, and it's very possible to spec your character in a poor way, so I'd recommend starting on easy and just have fun. Learn how to charge up critical shots and use the various skills effectively and it becomes a breeze (for an example how not to play, check out the Quick Look - they spec the character for stealth / pistols - the most powerful build in the game - then don't use the skills, get discovered, and run around shooting from the hip).

#29 Posted by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

Both of the infamous games have fantastic upgrade systems and they are third person shooter/platformers if that's your thing. Maybe I can trick you into playing Valkyria Chronicles? It's kind of a shooter sort of (but not really).

#30 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@VoleMaulder:

I guess I'll give Alpha Protocol a try, even though user ratings are low, people here seem to appreciate it. And RPG is my fav genre anyway :)

I thought about continuing with ME 3, but there was such a controversy about the ending, I remember all the threads made here, which was kind of a put-off.

#31 Edited by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@Hunter5024 said:

Both of the infamous games have fantastic upgrade systems and they are third person shooter/platformers if that's your thing. Maybe I can trick you into playing Valkyria Chronicles? It's kind of a shooter sort of (but not really).

Played Infamous, Infamous 2 is on my list :) I played Valkyria Chronicles and enjoyed it, back then I didn't get it for the shooting, but for being Strategy with RPG elements ^^

#32 Posted by The_Nubster (2148 posts) -

@Morrow said:

@Phatmac said:

Alpha Protocol is a third person shooter with a good story. You should try infamous since it is kind of a TPS, but with other elements.

I was pretty interested in Alpha Protocol when it came out, it seemed like the perfect game for me, but user ratings were rather low. I also read that it was advertised as having freedom of choice, which it didn't have in the end. Mind to give your opinion? ^^

I also played Infamous a while back and just recently picked it up again for some trophy hunting, so getting Infamous 2 is definately a possibility ^^

Thanks!

As a fellow person who loved Alpha Protocol, the game suffers from Deus Ex syndrome (which, hey, you should also get Deus Ex: Human Revolution), which is to say that you can build your character out in any way you want, but boss battles are all about shooting, which sucks. Compared to the rest of the game, though, it's a very small portion, and the character relationships and storytelling are top-notch. Think of it as Mass Effect 2, but the shooting is worse and everything else is better.

As for the freedom of choice vanishing, that is somewhat the case. The entire home-run section of the game is a huge shoot-out, essentially. You can stealth it if you want, but it's ball-bustingly hard to do. There are several huge, deep moral choices you need to make during the sequence, so you can still act in line with how you've built your cahracter in regards to the story beats, but it's a lot of shooting.

If you need perfect gameplay to enjoy a game, then Alpha Protocol isn't for you (or just toss it on easy mode and hear a story), but if you value ideas and interesting mechanics over gameplay, then you will love love love it.

#33 Posted by Hunter5024 (5686 posts) -

@Morrow: Well awesome! But I am no help to you in that case because my only other recommendation would be Uncharted which I'm sure you're well aware of. Maybe Resident Evil?

#34 Posted by DonutFever (3551 posts) -

Quantum Theory is les terribles. 
 
The Uncharted trilogy is great. 
 
Metal Gear Solid 4 is a stealth game, but it's third-person, you can take cover, left trigger aims and right trigger shoots so it qualifies. 

#35 Posted by Jack268 (3387 posts) -

Infamous

#36 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@The_Nubster: Due to many recommendations, I just ordered Alpha Protocol on Amazon for 9 Euros. So I'll see if I'll like it :) If not, it's just another D rank on my achievement list here on GB, and 9 Euros wasted isn't a lot. But if it's RPG-y, I'll probably like it.

Oh, and I have Deus Ex: HR by the way, I haven't played a lot of it yet because I'm a bit too impatient for it's stealth and get shot easily... ^^; But I definately plan to get more into it sometime.

#37 Posted by FLStyle (4705 posts) -

Warhawk is an awesome game, Starhawk not so much.

#38 Edited by pyromagnestir (4324 posts) -

@Morrow: There's some great stuff in ME3. The original ending was disappointing, however I felt the reaction to it seemed a bit overblown. Also I don't know what the new ending dlc did to it, because I haven't played it yet, and I've been avoiding any talk of that as much as possible. I can't imagine it fixed everything, though. But still, great character stuff leading up to that. One particular portion of that game might be the best thing in any Mass Effect game ever. It was my favorite part, anyway.

The only thing is ME3 had some real tough parts. Well they were tough for me and my Infiltrator Shepherd, as there were parts with tons of enemies swarming from all directions. I played on default difficulty, so I imagine lowering that or playing a different class would help.

#39 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@DonutFever said:

Quantum Theory is les terribles. The Uncharted trilogy is great. Metal Gear Solid 4 is a stealth game, but it's third-person, you can take cover, left trigger aims and right trigger shoots so it qualifies.

Yeah, since MGS 4 got a trophy patch and the HD collection got released, I thought about getting into the franchise :)

#40 Posted by BlackLagoon (1431 posts) -

@The_Nubster said:

As for the freedom of choice vanishing, that is somewhat the case. The entire home-run section of the game is a huge shoot-out, essentially. You can stealth it if you want, but it's ball-bustingly hard to do.

Oh, I dunno, with fully upgraded Evasion and Shadow Operative, especially with the Below the Radar perk from the CIA listening post, shooting becomes kinda redundant... And the few cases where it isn't, Chain Shot usually fixes any problem.

#41 Posted by VoleMaulder (63 posts) -

@The_Nubster said:

@Morrow said:

@Phatmac said:

Alpha Protocol is a third person shooter with a good story. You should try infamous since it is kind of a TPS, but with other elements.

I was pretty interested in Alpha Protocol when it came out, it seemed like the perfect game for me, but user ratings were rather low. I also read that it was advertised as having freedom of choice, which it didn't have in the end. Mind to give your opinion? ^^

I also played Infamous a while back and just recently picked it up again for some trophy hunting, so getting Infamous 2 is definately a possibility ^^

Thanks!

As a fellow person who loved Alpha Protocol, the game suffers from Deus Ex syndrome (which, hey, you should also get Deus Ex: Human Revolution), which is to say that you can build your character out in any way you want, but boss battles are all about shooting, which sucks. Compared to the rest of the game, though, it's a very small portion, and the character relationships and storytelling are top-notch. Think of it as Mass Effect 2, but the shooting is worse and everything else is better.

As for the freedom of choice vanishing, that is somewhat the case. The entire home-run section of the game is a huge shoot-out, essentially. You can stealth it if you want, but it's ball-bustingly hard to do. There are several huge, deep moral choices you need to make during the sequence, so you can still act in line with how you've built your cahracter in regards to the story beats, but it's a lot of shooting.

If you need perfect gameplay to enjoy a game, then Alpha Protocol isn't for you (or just toss it on easy mode and hear a story), but if you value ideas and interesting mechanics over gameplay, then you will love love love it.

The bold part pretty much summarizes my opinion about this game. If this game had ME's gameplay mechanics (somewhat altered, in order for the stealth to work) it would be one the best games of this generation.

I found bosses were easy enough if you had leveled up chain-shot on the pistol skill tree. Pretty boring, as in "shoot, run around while the skill recharges, rinse and repeat", but nothing maddeningly difficult.

@Morrow I haven't finished ME 3 yet, so I don't have an opinion - I've managed to stay away from any spoilers as much as I could - about the ending yet. All I can say, having played about a 3rd, judging from the achievements, of the game, is that it's much better and more enjoyable as a shooter that the previous two.

#42 Posted by Spoonman671 (4640 posts) -
@Morrow said:

@DonutFever said:

Quantum Theory is les terribles. The Uncharted trilogy is great. Metal Gear Solid 4 is a stealth game, but it's third-person, you can take cover, left trigger aims and right trigger shoots so it qualifies.

Yeah, since MGS 4 got a trophy patch and the HD collection got released, I thought about getting into the franchise :)

I don't think the trophy patch is actually out yet.  I think it just recently got announced that there would be one alongside a new version of MGS4.
#43 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@Spoonman671 said:

@Morrow said:

@DonutFever said:

Quantum Theory is les terribles. The Uncharted trilogy is great. Metal Gear Solid 4 is a stealth game, but it's third-person, you can take cover, left trigger aims and right trigger shoots so it qualifies.

Yeah, since MGS 4 got a trophy patch and the HD collection got released, I thought about getting into the franchise :)

I don't think the trophy patch is actually out yet. I think it just recently got announced that there would be one alongside a new version of MGS4.

Oh. Well, I won't get to play the games anytime soon anyway, so once I cleared out most of my backlog, the patch will certainly be out :) Huge backlog is huge ._.

#44 Posted by verticalstripes (33 posts) -

Just Cause 2 is an open-world 3rd person shooter / action game.  It is definitely worth getting.

#45 Posted by MikkaQ (10291 posts) -

@Phatmac said:

Alpha Protocol is a third person shooter with a good story.

The first half of that is a lie. Tt's an action RPG, not a shooter. You definately don't hit where you aim and you can practially hear the dice rolling behind every action you do.

It's got a pretty cool story though. I feel like I'm one of the few who likes the game but the game does have a lot of problems. If I were reviewing it, I'd give it a low score.

#46 Posted by StarvingGamer (8247 posts) -

I'm just gonna say that as someone who does not enjoy playing a shooter with a controller, I found the first Uncharted to be an abysmal experience that I gave up on 2/3 of the way through. Uncharted 3 was more mechanically sound but just boring, or at least the first third that I managed to slog through was. Uncharted 2 was great though.

RE5 was a ton of fun, probably the second closest I've ever gotten to a Platinum trophy, and seemed perfectly suited for controller. Also it's not really a shooter per se but you really should play Valkyria Chronicles if you haven't already :D.

#47 Posted by supamon (1333 posts) -

I'm surprised no one has suggested Borderlands. A Diablo FPS/RPG shooter with 4 classes, a skill tree, tons of loot and an apocalyptic setting. It's cheap now and there's auto-aim for it too.

#48 Edited by believer258 (11914 posts) -

@Morrow said:

@believer258 said:

EDIT: Also Dead Space, if you don't mind gore and disturbing horror. Like, lots of gore. And lots of disturbing things. Also it doesn't use a cover system and takes place in a lot of dark corridors, so it's a little different than what most other TPS games do.

Yeah, people throw Dead Space at me, but I watched a video on YouTube showing all death scenes in Dead Space 2, and I was pretty grossed out... however, I never really played any horror games, so I might try it sometime. Does it at least have some other tasks and is the plot good? It seems to be rather popular so I take it's not only mindless shooting?

The plot's pretty good for a video game plot, though it's got some holes and questions to answer, but if you were put off by Isaac's death scenes then you probably ought not try it. A good bit of its horror goes for that really gory kind of thing, and horror is half the point of an action horror game. The other half, the action, plays out very well and is pretty fun, but again it's quite gory and attempts to be at least somewhat disturbing.

Oh, yeah, and it's got some basic puzzles here and there, but none of them are that complex and are mostly there as a lull in the combat.

The games have some really cool and memorable moments to see, like getting flung through space from one end of a space station to the other or running from a monster you can't kill or solving a gigantic block-moving puzzle while floating around in space, but all in all it's a gory horror game through and through and if that doesn't float your boat then it will probably be a purchase you'll regret.

There is a demo of the first and second games if you still want to give it a whirl, at least here in the US.

#49 Posted by Morrow (1829 posts) -

@supamon said:

I'm surprised no one has suggested Borderlands. A Diablo FPS/RPG shooter with 4 classes, a skill tree, tons of loot and an apocalyptic setting. It's cheap now and there's auto-aim for it too.

Because Borderlands is not third person.

#50 Posted by The_Nubster (2148 posts) -

@BlackLagoon: I may be remembering the home stretch in a more negative light than what I actually went though, but I remember getting bum-rushed by enemies before my Chain Shot could recharge. It was the only section of the game where I had any difficulty sneaking around, because I had the same things you did (Evasion, Shadow Operative, Below the Radar), but I may have just messed up really hard.

@supamon: Borderlands is an FPS, not a TPS. Definitely a game that everyone should give a go, but it doesn't fall into what OP is asking for.

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