Lack of jrpg's on ps3? Why

#1 Posted by crimson26 (49 posts) -

Seems there is not much in jrpg's on ps3 this gen. I played recent ni no kuni which is best imo out of them but 360 has so many more and good ones like tales, blue dragon and lost odyssey. Did jrpg makers switch to the 360?

#2 Posted by Spoonman671 (4560 posts) -

What year is it there?

#3 Edited by SuperWristBands (2266 posts) -

At the start of this console generation they certainly switched to the 360 but they went back pretty fast. There are hella niche jrpgs on the ps3.

You listed pretty much the only exclusive jrpgs on the 360.

#4 Posted by killacam (1284 posts) -

microsoft secured a deal for vesperia, which is why we never got a ps3 version. japan has one. a more complete version of eternal sonata eventually came out on ps3. i believe lost odyssey and blue dragon are both mistwalker, so maybe 360 is just that developer's preference. i don't think the ps3 has missed out on as much as you think. playing jrpg's with a 360 controller sure does feel wrong though..

#5 Posted by zombie2011 (4968 posts) -

Tales came out on PS3 also.

I think MS just pushed to get a lot of JRPG's on the 360 early in it's life so it would sell better in Japan.

#6 Posted by Demoskinos (14562 posts) -
@crimson26 There are plenty of JRPG's on PS3 it just depends on the quality level your looking for NIS and Compile Heart have put out dozens of games. Heck there is a new Hyperdimension Neptunia and a new game in the Altier series.
#7 Posted by Hunter5024 (5543 posts) -

Well this generation the cost of development for games really went through the roof, and because JRPGs are so long, and have a visual expectation, it became very expensive to develop them for the bigger consoles. Also one of the main appeals of jrpgs has always been the story, and more and more types of games have aspired to incorporate good narratives in their games this generation, so that's caused the spotlight to be taken off of jrpgs. As a result of those two things (and a few others) the genre kind of stagnated on the main platforms this time around, and a lot of the developers moved to cheaper consoles like the Wii and Psp, or took a crack at creating games in a less resource intensive genre.

As for the games you listed on the xbox, those were the result of a deal between Mistwalker and Microsoft to attract Japanese players to the 360. It didn't work, and I doubt you'll see another Microsoft exclusive Mistwalker game.

#8 Posted by Yadilie (380 posts) -

It really amazes me when people have to use Blue Dragon to try and show the PS3 has no JRPGs. What an absolutely bland, uninspired, and pathetically easy game. Every time I hear the word 'Nothing' I fucking cringe a little. Plus the PS3 has 4 Atelier games and 3 Neptunia games. Plus Ni no Kuni, to name JRPGs that have come out in the past 3 to 4 years.

#9 Posted by Brodehouse (9587 posts) -

Because JRPGs were a niche that exploded for a couple years when technology and their design perfectly lined up. Much in the same way that platformers were huge right when their design perfectly coincided with the rate of technology. When technology outpaced their design, they went from the dominant genre to just one of the pack.

#10 Posted by dungbootle (2457 posts) -

Are you being for real, all of them are on there

#11 Posted by natedawg_kz (234 posts) -

What?, More like PS3 has had more JRPGs, there has been tones on the PSN store

#12 Posted by Petiew (1331 posts) -
@Yadilie said:

It really amazes me when people have to use Blue Dragon to try and show the PS3 has no JRPGs. What an absolutely bland, uninspired, and pathetically easy game. Every time I hear the word 'Nothing' I fucking cringe a little. Plus the PS3 has 4 Atelier games and 3 Neptunia games. Plus Ni no Kuni, to name JRPGs that have come out in the past 3 to 4 years.

I haven't played Blue Dragon, so I can't speak about it's quality but are you using Neptunia as an example of an inovative, inspired and challenging game? I played Mk2 a couple weeks back (After looking forward to it for a while) and was really dissapointed. I thought it was one of the laziest games I've ever seen.
#13 Posted by Yadilie (380 posts) -

@Petiew: No, I wasn't. Just saying 7 JRPGs that I knew had come out recently. But Blue Dragon is a really terrible game. My comment was made to the effect that i don't understand why people try to hold up such a mediocre title as a pillar of 360's JRPG stash. It's better off ignored in the corner where it belongs. Final Fantasy 1 for the NES is a better game than it is.

#14 Posted by Dixavd (1305 posts) -

All on the PSBlackBox bitches. I'm from the future and Kingdom Hearts 3000 is the bomb!

#15 Posted by Cameron (595 posts) -

Just play Persona 4 again and again. It's so much better than any other recent JRPG it isn't even funny.

#16 Posted by Nightriff (4915 posts) -

@Cameron said:

Just play Persona 4 again and again. It's so much better than any other recent JRPG it isn't even funny.

THIS! So true, play, watch ER, play and watch ER, so many ways to enjoy the game

#17 Posted by Neonie (419 posts) -

"I don't look very hard for JRPG's" and "There are no JRPG's" are two very VERY different things. You could VERY EASILY find many JRPG's on the PS3 if you actually looked for them for even one second. Hell just go to NISA's forums and you will find almost ALL OF THEM including some SJRG's.

#18 Posted by crimson26 (49 posts) -

@zombie2011 said:

Tales came out on PS3 also.

I think MS just pushed to get a lot of JRPG's on the 360 early in it's life so it would sell better in Japan.

Not in America so i cant play the game.

#19 Edited by crimson26 (49 posts) -

@Yadilie said:

@Petiew: No, I wasn't. Just saying 7 JRPGs that I knew had come out recently. But Blue Dragon is a really terrible game. My comment was made to the effect that i don't understand why people try to hold up such a mediocre title as a pillar of 360's JRPG stash. It's better off ignored in the corner where it belongs. Final Fantasy 1 for the NES is a better game than it is.

Neptunia games look more like some hentai than anime to me and they just creep me out.

Also i like how everyone responded with ps3 has more jrpg's yet listed none hardly.

#20 Posted by Apathylad (3066 posts) -

Valkyria Chronicles? Tales of Graces f?

#21 Posted by Flappy (2129 posts) -

All of the JRPGs are too busy going to the handhelds.

#22 Posted by JZ (2125 posts) -

Whay the fuck are you talking about? There's disgaea 3,4,1-2 final fantasy 13,13-2,14, neptunia 1,2,3, 4 different atiler games, tales of grace f and xilla, demon's souls, dark souls, yakuza, 3 and 4, mugen souls, valkirya chronicles, resonence of fate, neir, 3 record of agrest wars games, star ocean 4, last rebellion, cross edge, trinity inverse, downloadible persona 3 fes, grim grimore, xenogears, ff7,8, tactics.

#23 Posted by graf1k (413 posts) -

@Flappy said:

All of the JRPGs are too busy going to the handhelds.

That really seems to be the answer these days. It seems like Atlus for example, largely skipped this generation of consoles except for Catherine and publishing a couple rogue games here and there. But it seems like any JRPG that can make the move mobile is going to the 3DS and maybe a couple to Vita. Probably also a consequence of Square Enix leaning more on their Eidos acquisitions the past year or so as well. Seems like their JRPG output has dropped off significantly since pretty much all their 360/PS3 ones have failed pretty hard in sales.

#24 Edited by EXTomar (4499 posts) -

I don't know...looking at the stack of awful Japanese RPGs I wonder what this question is about. There were plenty of JRPGs on the PS3. You probably didn't hear about them because many were low budget Gust and Compile Heart games that one shouldn't play unless they really really really want too.

The better question is what happened to JRPGs on consoles in general. They seemed to retreated to portables due to the inability to handle expensive and complexity in console tech.

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#25 Edited by PixelPrinny (1030 posts) -

@crimson26 said:

@Yadilie said:

@Petiew: No, I wasn't. Just saying 7 JRPGs that I knew had come out recently. But Blue Dragon is a really terrible game. My comment was made to the effect that i don't understand why people try to hold up such a mediocre title as a pillar of 360's JRPG stash. It's better off ignored in the corner where it belongs. Final Fantasy 1 for the NES is a better game than it is.

Neptunia games look more like some hentai than anime to me and they just creep me out.

Also i like how everyone responded with ps3 has more jrpg's yet listed none hardly.

You want a list? Well okay how bout this:

Disclaimer: I am in no way claiming all of these games to be good. In fact, some are garbage.

- Valkyria Chronicles

- Eternal Sonata

- Tales of Graces F

- Ni no Kuni

- Hyperdimension Neptunia

- Hyperdimension Neptunia MK 2

- White Knight Chronciles 1 & 2

- Atelier Rorona

- Atelier Totori

- Atelier Meruru

- Disgaea 3

- Disgaea 4

- Trinity Universe

- Cross Edge

- Mugen Souls

- Record of Agarest War

- Record of Agarest War 2

- Record of Agarest War Zero

- Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny

- Final Fantasy XIII

- Final Fantasy XIII-2

- Ar Tonelico Qoga

I'm sure I'm missing some but those are off the top of my head. Again, I'm not saying they're all good. If you want some personal recommendations, I'd say the Atelier and Disgaea series are awesome. Valkyria Chronicles is fantastic... Tales of Graces isn't as great as Vesperia but still really fun.

As for the why there hasn't been that many, I'm sure others have answered but it's all about cost vs demand. Many smaller developers moved to portable consoles where they could continue to use the technology they already developed/licensed without incurring tons of new costs for a niche market.

And as for why the xbox had more initially, I'm sure this has also been answered but to put it simply -- Microsoft paid developers to make JRPGs on their console early on. It's not a conspiracy or anything; that's literally what happened. And it was a plan that paid off to some degree. I certainly bought an Xbox because of games like Vesperia nd Lost Odyssey, and I'm sure many other fans of the genre did as well.

Will we see more JRPGs on the consoles next generation? Honestly? Probably not. Again due to the small market and raising prices, I think we'll continue to see most come out on handhelds. That's not to say we won't see any, but the days of the PS1 and PS2 with their hundreds of JRPGs are long gone.

Edit: Another thing that you might want to bear in mind is the number of "PS classics" available on the PS3 if you're looking for older games to try out. Odin Sphere is one that most people missed out on that I'd highly recommend.

Edit x2: Just wanted to also mention that on top of the excellent Ni no Kuni, we should be seeing two other really good JRPGs this year with Atelier Ayesha and Tales of Xillia *fingers crossed* Also, Disgaea D2 is gonna be out sometime this year in Japan, I believe. I doubt we'll see it in the west in 2013, but maybe? Oh and there's FFXIII-3 if that's your thing.... I'll wait for it to hit the bargain bin, personally.

#27 Posted by Raven10 (1727 posts) -

I think the console you are looking for is the Nintendo DS. Virtually every major JRPG series left consoles and focused on the DS. Here are just a couple:

- Phantasy Star

- Suikoden

- Dragon Quest

- Valkyrie Profile

- Tales Of

- Kingdom Hearts

- Shin Migami Tensei

- YS

#28 Posted by EXTomar (4499 posts) -

Speaking of a future JRPG on PS3....

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#29 Posted by jeffrud (382 posts) -

If we're going to pick on a present console with a paucity of JRPGs, might I point out that the Wii didn't receive a truly notable JRPG until its last year of life in the United States. Granted, you had access to a nice pile of Genesis and SNES games, but new material? Xenoblade Chronicles and The Last Story are about it.

#30 Posted by Neonie (419 posts) -

@EXTomar said:

Speaking of a future JRPG on PS3....

Oh yeah, and also The God/Fate Revolution Parodox from NIS as well will probably be coming here.

#31 Posted by Grillbar (1797 posts) -

dont know what your talking about, i have seen a ton of them just never really bought them since they were a bit to obscure for my taste wich most of them are really.

the ones a atleast cant remember are tales of graces f, valkyria chronicles, eternal sonata, Atelier Meruru: The Apprentice of Arland,Hyperdimension Neptunia Mk. II,Record of Agarest War 2, Legasista, and FF what ever is also a jrpg just to name a few

#32 Posted by Raven10 (1727 posts) -

It should also be noted that most of the JRPG's you guys are listing are very low budget ones that aren't incredibly good. In past generations JRPG's had huge budgets and were very popular. These days the budgets have dried up and only a scant few big name JRPG's are released on consoles. There are a lot if you want to play really niche JRPG's but if you want something on the same scale as Ni No Kuni your options are far more limited. With Final Fantasy moving away from traditional JRPG formulas there really aren't many traditional JRPG's on the PS3 or 360 that are appealing to the casual JRPG fan. And in the past couple of years this is especially true. For a while Tri Ace had regular RPG's coming out to consoles, but they moved to handhelds too recently. And Square Enix hasn't put out a new JRPG for consoles in a while. Most of their efforts are for 3DS and Vita. So if you are talking about low budget stuff, then yea there is a fair amount, but if you are talking broad appeal big budget stuff I can probably count them all on my hands.

#33 Posted by startyourengine (15 posts) -

just because nobody else has mentioned this: folklore

#34 Edited by gogosox82 (424 posts) -

There are plenty of good jrpgs on the ps3. Nier, Valkyria Chronicles, Resonance of fate, FF13, FF 13-2, tales of graces f, demons souls, and dark souls. Those are just off the top of my head so i'm sure there's more.

#35 Posted by casper_ (901 posts) -

ps3 has tons of japanese shit going on. developers like NIS hold it down.

#36 Posted by phantomzxro (1565 posts) -

Yeah AAA jrpgs has fallen off the console market across the broad. Which it seems more niche jrpgs still quite often appear on PS3. MS had an early push to be a bigger deal in japan by locking down some jrpgs around its launch which in the long run did not work so well.

So the games you listed are pretty much the only exclusive jrpgs on xbox. Most jrpgs are moving to handhelds and once in awhile we will get a gem like ni no kuni and everyone is waiting on Square Enix to go back to the basics.

#37 Posted by Protome (346 posts) -

Valkyria Chronicles alone is better than any JRPG on the 360. That said, there are plenty of others too as have been listed in this thread.

I do wish Lost Odyssey would get ported though.

#38 Posted by Boiglenoight (529 posts) -

Atlus needs to release an HD version of Xenoblade on the PS3. Would sell like mad.

#39 Posted by S3v3nS1ns (46 posts) -

Tales of Graces F is one of my favorite games this generation.

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