...I wish it would have told me a little sooner. This isn't exactly the most stress free time for me right now.

It's a refurbished 60GB I ordered online from GameStop. Last night my ps2 games were playing perfectly, tonight I just get a blank screen. I'll try tomorrow to see if it will decide to continue playing them. It looks like I'm going to have to send it in. It froze on me while in the XMB tonight as well, as it did while in game playing Uncharted. I also noticed that while the PS3 is practically silent most of the time, (compared to my experiences on the 360.) there were a few times while playing MGS4 and Uncharted that some unpleasant noises reverberated from inside the machine.
Nothing terribly annoying but noticeable.

Should I send it back (It supposedly came with a warranty I believe, pretty positive.) Or is there something I can do for it?

You bought a GameStop refurb? Half the time those are broken beyond belief, even after being sent away.

I would send it to Sony and see what they can do.

You can never really trust GS when it comes to used systems. It's pretty much based on luck if you'll get a working system or not...I would recommend sending it to Sony.

"You can never really trust GS

Well at least it's a 60GB which is a rare find, so IMO just get it fixed because it's the best BC SKU.

At least yours played PS2 games in the first place. I got an 80GB and it was the worst purchasing decision of my life.

That sucks dude, get on to Sony and see what they can do for you.

"HandsomeDead said:

"At least yours played PS2 games in the first place. I got an 80GB and it was the worst purchasing decision of my life."

80 GB are suppose to play PS2 games....."

wow that sucks, hopefully they'll release a BC patch someday.

Man that stinks...but like someone else said hopefully you learned your lesson about buying refurbished consoles for GameStop....good luck with your system.

"HandsomeDead said:

"At least yours played PS2 games in the first place. I got an 80GB and it was the worst purchasing decision of my life."

80 GB are suppose to play PS2 games....."

Now it gets crazier.

I booted my console this morning and low and behold, a ps2 game booted perfectly. I tried it again. And blank screen.
I am so confused.

Regarding it being Gamestop refurbished. The 60 gig is one hell of a hard model to find and that's the only reason I bought it from them.

"Now it gets crazier.

I booted my console this morning and low and behold, a ps2 game booted perfectly. I tried it again. And blank screen.
I am so confused.

Regarding it being Gamestop refurbished. The 60 gig is one hell of a hard model to find and that's the only reason I bought it from them."

I don't trust GameStop.
I'm looking into alternative places to get the system fixed, as well as sending it into Sony which I will probably do. I hope I don't get a gimped 80Gig after all of this is through.

"I don't trust GameStop.
I'm looking into alternative places to get the system fixed, as well as sending it into Sony which I will probably do. I hope I don't get a gimped 80Gig after all of this is through."

"vidiot said:

"I don't trust GameStop.
I'm looking into alternative places to get the system fixed, as well as sending it into Sony which I will probably do. I hope I don't get a gimped 80Gig after all of this is through."

Yeah....we used to have a place close to us that fixed consoles...but I don't know....good luck with it. "

"nerdboy said:

"vidiot said:

"I don't trust GameStop.
I'm looking into alternative places to get the system fixed, as well as sending it into Sony which I will probably do. I hope I don't get a gimped 80Gig after all of this is through."

Yeah....we used to have a place close to us that fixed consoles...but I don't know....good luck with it. "

Thanks everyone.

On a more weird note. This generation of consoles has really bummed me out in terms of stuff breaking down. Perhaps it's fatigue from my 360 deciding to red ring on Christmas eve (fun.) But aside from that I don't remember any mass technical problems cropping up with my snes or genesis. Or my Playstation. Or even my Ps2 or original Xbox. I hope the...next generation is far better in terms of reliability."

that happened to me- either get a new one if your warrenty works. OR as my second one stopped playing ps2 games aswell- try try and try again, then update the firmware

BIG BLACK PAPERWEIGHT FTL!!!  LAWLZ

"...I wish it would have told me a little sooner. This isn't exactly the most stress free time for me right now.

It's a refurbished 60GB I ordered online from GameStop. Last night my ps2 games were playing perfectly, tonight I just get a blank screen. I'll try tomorrow to see if it will decide to continue playing them. It looks like I'm going to have to send it in. It froze on me while in the XMB tonight as well, as it did while in game playing Uncharted. I also noticed that while the PS3 is practically silent most of the time, (compared to my experiences on the 360.) there were a few times while playing MGS4 and Uncharted that some unpleasant noises reverberated from inside the machine.
Nothing terribly annoying but noticeable.

Should I send it back (It supposedly came with a warranty I believe, pretty positive.) Or is there something I can do for it?"

Getting it to boot PS2 games is pretty all over the place. Again this morning (I work during the weekends.) I again booted the system multiple times taking the disk out, putting it back in. This time it booted two times out of five-ish, a far cry from not booting at all a day ago, or only booting once. Interesting that when I initially started the system the game was able to boot (disk was already in console.), but after quiting and trying again it wasn't able to. Nor boot normally after restarting.

Does anyone with any internal PS3 tech experience have any idea what might be the cause of this?

That really sucks. I saw another poster say he had gotten a refurbished 360 from GameStop and they hadn't even asked the previous owners for the password for the system. How lazy is that? Whether you like GameStop or not, I think everyone can admit that their used systems are not a good idea to purchase.

I would send it back to Sony, for sure. If you are no longer under warranty, the repair is $160, I believe.

vidiot said:

"Does anyone with any internal PS3 tech experience have any idea what might be the cause of this?"

"THIS IS INSANE.

MY PS3 IS NOW BOOTING PS2 GAMES JUST FINE. I AM CONFUSED.

Is it self aware? I am beyond confused."

"vidiot said:

"THIS IS INSANE.

MY PS3 IS NOW BOOTING PS2 GAMES JUST FINE. I AM CONFUSED.

Is it self aware? I am beyond confused."

Seriously back to what I said before your ps3 most likely has some sort of electrical, physical damage (considering that 60 gigs ps3 had and an actual physical chip to play ps2 games), take it to a private repairman or get sony warranty if you wnat it to work properly. In order to prevent problem do general things like preventing overheating and taking good care of your console."

I don't believe something magically repaired itself inside my console. In my mind my ps3 is still broken. While I was tearing out my hair a week or so ago on this board, I was also troubleshooting the hell out of my console. This recent resurgence of correct operation defiantly has caught me off guard.

I decided to pull my console more forward to allow more air to breathe through in the back. Regarding overheating issues, a well placed fan sitting right next to both my 360 and PS3 hopefully will correct any future issues regarding overheating. I hope.

 The initial problem was the consoles inability to switch over to the internal Ps2. When a Ps2 game is selected (even a Ps3) the screen goes black then literally seems to switch over to the appropriate hardware in context to it's media. I see my HDMI blank channel pop up as if the machine is off for a few seconds, and then the correct Playstation logo's appear for it's boot. When I had the problem the screen would turn blank as it's supposed to, and then continue to stay there.

After a few weeks of booting and re-booting titles I think I found the culprit of the problem. And by culprit, I mean the only damn thing that I have come semi close to associating the problem too and it probably has little to nothing, to do with the grand scheme of things happening in this behemoths hardware. I began noticing the holding down on the playstation button wasn't booting the machine any more. I was a bit confused why this would fail too. I noticed that I still had the USB port for the controller still plugged in even though the controller was not plugged to the USB cable. "What the hell, it wouldn't hurt." I thought as I unplugged the USB cable from the machine and hit the Playstation button to try and turn it on. The machine finally responded and started, and then immediately began booting the Ps2 game without any problems. After fifteen successful boots I posted my last message here.

A couple days back my controller need to be charged so I plugged it back in. Lowe and behold the Ps2 game wouldn't boot. I disconnected the USB cable and it worked.

I've been unsuccessful trying to get this to replicate 100% of the time. I have had no hardware failures with the cable plugged in though, and so far this is my only lead in finding out the problem. I am testing and retesting the hell out of this thing, thanks for everyone that responded. I'll update any future issues regarding my system.

It's just weird."