Sony Reveals New PS3, PS+ For Vita, Not Much Else

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#151 Posted by PillClinton (3291 posts) -

All seems pretty ok, but why does it look like that? I mean that top/side with the ridged plastic that looks like it's cracked down the middle? That's fugly.

#152 Posted by PenguinDust (12499 posts) -

I don't get it. You can buy a new PS3 right now for less from Wal-mart. Yes, the HDD isn't as monstrous, but shouldn't Sony be trying to lower the price rather than raise it for the intended demographic?

"For the record, my Xbox 360 (a launch model) still has a 20GB hard drive. I’m cheap and sad."

Mine, too Patrick. That's because for a long time an upgrade cost $120. I wasn't about to pay that when I could get a 500 gig external for half that. Now that they've come down, I just don't see a point to buying a bigger drive when the new consoles are right around the corner (so to speak).

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#153 Posted by KlUMZeE (318 posts) -

I like the redesign, it looks slick. As for The Last Guardian? I'm really beginning to doubt that it'll ever see the light of day.

#154 Edited by bkfountain (102 posts) -

Did sony just do the first base model price increase for a console ever?

6 years into the console and a couple revisions later, and they bump the price up by $20. Hilarious. Maybe they're going to slowly increase the price of the ps3 so the $600 ps4 doesn't look as bad.

#155 Posted by SatelliteOfLove (1369 posts) -

Dibs on the term "PS3 Scrawny"!
 
It's odd the tone of the piece being what it is, when it should be "Japanese-only cell phone shit sucking up talent and stuff that will come out here".

#156 Posted by GrantHeaslip (1573 posts) -

It's a little weird they didn't somehow manage to get a $200 model out, but I get the sense Sony isn't in a position to take a loss of system sales right now. The leaks earlier on about this model made it sound like it was all about getting the manufacturing cost down.

#157 Posted by bkfountain (102 posts) -

@GrantHeaslip said:

It's a little weird they didn't somehow manage to get a $200 model out, but I get the sense Sony isn't in a position to take a loss of system sales right now. The leaks earlier on about this model made it sound like it was all about getting the manufacturing cost down.

It's natural to get the manufacturing costs down after being out for 6 years. What's crazy is that this cheap ass console is actually raising the base price to $269 from $249.

#158 Posted by GrantHeaslip (1573 posts) -

@bkfountain said:

@GrantHeaslip said:

It's a little weird they didn't somehow manage to get a $200 model out, but I get the sense Sony isn't in a position to take a loss of system sales right now. The leaks earlier on about this model made it sound like it was all about getting the manufacturing cost down.

It's natural to get the manufacturing costs down after being out for 6 years. What's crazy is that this cheap ass console is actually raising the base price to $269 from $249.

That's exactly what I mean -- I thought it was going to come with a price drop. They must just be taking bigger profits on each one sold now.

#159 Posted by bkfountain (102 posts) -

@GrantHeaslip said:

@bkfountain said:

@GrantHeaslip said:

It's a little weird they didn't somehow manage to get a $200 model out, but I get the sense Sony isn't in a position to take a loss of system sales right now. The leaks earlier on about this model made it sound like it was all about getting the manufacturing cost down.

It's natural to get the manufacturing costs down after being out for 6 years. What's crazy is that this cheap ass console is actually raising the base price to $269 from $249.

That's exactly what I mean -- I thought it was going to come with a price drop. They must just be taking bigger profits on each one sold now.

This is Sony being content with just making money the rest of the gen instead of trying to sell more consoles. It would be insane if the ps3 or 360 have no real price drops this holiday, but they apparently don't care anymore. Looks like crappy bundles until the new consoles launch.

#160 Edited by Gunharp (337 posts) -

@shades846 said:

so still no N class wifi upgrade that nearly all newist devices have had for three years ?

No consoles support the 5GHZ band :( Even the Xbox 360 is only 2.4GHZ (N/G/B), its useless and weak. I have all my consoles hooked up to a switch, which is hooked up to a nice little wireless adapter.

#161 Posted by l4wd0g (1939 posts) -

This redesign indicates that the PS4 will not be released in 2013

#162 Posted by shades846 (151 posts) -

@Gunharp: the wii U at least will support normal N at least out of the box.

#163 Posted by _Chad (962 posts) -

I have a Vita and I'm a Plus member so that sounds good to me. I should probably get a bigger memory card.

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#164 Posted by Scrawnto (2440 posts) -

I'll probably pick up the 250GB one. I was already thinking of getting a PS3, since I've never had a Sony product, there are a few PSN games I'd like to play, and I'd like to get a Blu-Ray player.

#165 Posted by GaspoweR (2961 posts) -

So i guess the next Generation PS might still be still be 2 years off but I'm guessing they might be doing a reveal come next year

#166 Posted by HarlequinRiot (1098 posts) -

I was surprised to see so many people complain about this design (not here). I think it looks fine, especially from the company that, in my opinion, made terrible looking consoles up until the PS3 slim (which is saved by its plain-ness). The grill on top is odd, but the it has a nice profile overall. The top-sliding tray is crazy though, very strange choice.

#167 Posted by SaturdayNightSpecials (2376 posts) -

All I can think of is string cheese, or celery.

Not feeling it.

#168 Posted by Peanut (953 posts) -

@whatisdelicious said:

@Peanut: Auto-patching and trophy sync are both convenience features. You don't need them. My PS3 experience was totally fine without them, and it's totally fine with them. Nobody else offers auto-patching (on consoles) so I'm fine with the idea that it's locked behind a paywall. Even Steam doesn't offer overnight patching. But multiplayer? If you don't pay for Gold, it's not like you get cheaper games because they don't have access to multiplayer; you still have to pay the same $60 for games where a big chunk of the development cost went to developing multiplayer that you'll never be able to play until you fork out another $60/year. That's fucking ridiculous.

So yeah, locking up overnight patching and trophy sync behind a paywall is not that big of a deal.

It also doesn't take the ridiculous amount of time to patch on the 360 that it does on the PS3. Everything about keeping that piece of hardware and its software up to date is an absolute nightmare. 360 updates take LITERAL seconds and with a full system update 5 minutes max. Again, I'm not defending Microsofts awful policies. I'm saying both consoles and both their paid programs are flawed. End.

#169 Posted by ashogo (943 posts) -

@GrantHeaslip said:

@bkfountain said:

@GrantHeaslip said:

It's a little weird they didn't somehow manage to get a $200 model out, but I get the sense Sony isn't in a position to take a loss of system sales right now. The leaks earlier on about this model made it sound like it was all about getting the manufacturing cost down.

It's natural to get the manufacturing costs down after being out for 6 years. What's crazy is that this cheap ass console is actually raising the base price to $269 from $249.

That's exactly what I mean -- I thought it was going to come with a price drop. They must just be taking bigger profits on each one sold now.

200 would be a definite sweet spot in convincing me to get one, but upping the price makes me want it less.

#170 Posted by ExplodeMode (852 posts) -

500 is getting silly. Especially this late in the game. What percent of customers actually end up using 1/5th of that? I'm sure they would appreciate paying less for the system a lot more.

I've had 160 since 2008 and I'm at 80gb free right now.

#171 Posted by Blimble (302 posts) -

If they had made this a cheaper model I would probably have got one but paying the same just for a slightly smaller one just isn't an attractive deal

#172 Posted by NeoZeon (177 posts) -

@BradGrenz said:

@Anund said:

You know what's a complete joke for a subscription service? Getting f-ing access to the online component of the games I buy. Until that changes, I want no complants about anything in PS+.

No kidding. We're talking about a feature the competition doesn't even offer while they instead lock stuff you're already paying for behind additional pay walls.

Between that and the ads blanketing the screen while trying to find a game, I'm glad my 360 red ringed so much...well not glad per se, but it gave me great reasons to buy a PS3. I have no reason to look back.

Also - Muramasa? Hell yes!

#173 Posted by NeoZeon (177 posts) -

@Orange_Pork said:

@Stinky51012: "Microsoft's service is bad" is not an excuse to not make PS+ better.

It already is pretty good. Not sure what else people could want out of it honestly. And, no, I don't think automatic updates and trophies syncing is something to really care about. If you turn the system on more than once a week the problem usually takes care of itself.

#174 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -

Those promo shots make this thing look way nicer than it actually is. One ugly console!

#175 Posted by Solh0und (1765 posts) -

Looks like a hybrid of the fat and slim PS3s

#176 Posted by Wolf3 (54 posts) -

So can you still use your own harddrive in the Playstation 3: 3.0? I put a 120GB Intel SSD in my Playstation 3: 2, 'cause don't need much storage space in a console, but it probably helped with New Vegas, which pulls from the hard drive all the time. (Every loading screen I figured 'hey, I'm saving time!')

#177 Posted by Wolf3 (54 posts) -

@muralbat: The Wii U is a 6 year old piece of hardware too. Same boat. And I still don't see $250-300ish as expensive today for a reasonably powerful console. I mean these things were like $180 back in the 90s, so that's less than inflation even, and they're as comparatively powerful probably.

#178 Posted by muralbat (152 posts) -

@Wolf3: Not even going to give you a second of my time trying to explain the Wii hardware to you, if your that uninformed to make the above statement, then your already lost

#179 Posted by IrrelevantJohn (1064 posts) -

Isn't this the PS3 model that takes away the 1080p from the component cable connections? Then again why do I care since I use HDMI.

Anyways, I think this model would be interesting if they told us how much power it draws. If it's only cosmetics then this is pointless unless you don't own a PS3 yet.

#180 Posted by UnsolvedParadox (1863 posts) -

I turned on my Vita for the first time in months last night, updated the system software and eagerly checked out the game store. Even with modest expectations, I was really disappointed.

How has the system garnered so few "full" game releases, along with a really small selection of digital only games? Did Sony somehow believe that a selection of PSOne titles compatible with the Vita would make up for one of the worst first year software libraries for a new device in gaming history? I really want Sony to turn this around and justify my launch day purchase of the Vita, but I'm growing increasingly frustrated at the lack of commitment to the platform.

#181 Posted by BlackLagoon (1414 posts) -

@UnsolvedParadox said:

How has the system garnered so few "full" game releases, along with a really small selection of digital only games?

There was a real dearth of new games during the summer. Sony was probably so focused on the launch, that they neglected the months afterwards. Things should be picking up now, with LittleBigPlanet coming out and new retail releases every week of October.

#182 Posted by SupberUber (311 posts) -

Looks better than the first slim model.

#183 Posted by LiquidPrince (15919 posts) -

@patrickklepek said:

Muramasa: The Demon Blade is getting a Vita port.

FUCKING AWESOME! My favorite Wii game gets a port! I want!

#184 Posted by YukoAsho (2029 posts) -

@GaspoweR said:

So i guess the next Generation PS might still be still be 2 years off but I'm guessing they might be doing a reveal come next year

Honestly, I think Sony and MS are looking to see if the Wii U takes off like the Wii did. Personally, I think that unless the Wii U is a huge hit outside of the traditional Nintendo fanbase, Sony and MS can get away with a price drop next year since both systems aren't exactly doing poorly in the market now. This would also give them time to figure out how to put out the next systems at a price below $599USD.

#185 Posted by Boopie (191 posts) -

wow Sony way to completely overwhelm us with great news!

#186 Posted by pavakah (106 posts) -

I guess anything next-gen isn't coming until 4k televisions hit the mainstream market. At least I'll know when to start paying attention to consoles again.

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