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PlayStation 3 to soon emulate PlayStation 2 games?

Topic started by choffy21 on June 30, 2009. Last post by The_A_Drain 4 months, 3 weeks ago.
Post by The_A_Drain (3,216 posts) See mini bio
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@dcpc10:

Yeah I get that a lot :O

I honestly think the best solution for everyone is to implement the BC in a new firmware, and then sell PS2 games on PSN as well, that gives everyone every option they could ever want.

Those with an 80gb lose nothing because they can still play PS2 games like normal.
Those with PS2 discs can now play them.
Those who missed out on some great PS2 games can buy them on the store, or buy the physical discs and play them.

I just don't see how anybody loses out with sony implementing this, and I just feel comments like "Just go buy a PS2" either come from people who have a BC PS3, or don't care, and thus, don't need to care about this decision. But it doesn't harm the people who dont care either, so why should they care? :D


Post by TheHBK (1,495 posts) See mini bio
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Its because Sony is run by retards.
Look at the high price, PSP Go at 250 when its cheaper to make than the current PSP?  In this economy?  No more PS2 backward compatability when the PS2 is still selling and software can still move?  HOME, geesus krist, whose fucking idea was that?  All of this just reminds me of their E3 2006 press conference, they really think that shit like trophies and finally having movies for rent are amazing revolutions.  Who is fucking running things there?!?  Retards.


Post by SathingtonWaltz (569 posts) See mini bio
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@Mordukai said:
" @get2sammyb said:
" @WilliamRLBaker: Dude chill. You all wanted the price lower. Sacrifices were made. Sacrifices were made but still the price isn't low enough and nor is the feature set "as promised". Some people are so fucking ridiculous. I appreciate in an ideal world the Playstation 2 should work in the PS3, but hey it doesn't. In an ideal world the 360 wouldn't be so loud and crap out after a few years, the Wii remote would have had MotionPlus from the get-go and the world wouldn't be in a recession. Etc. etc.It's ridiculous. You can't have everything. There's no denying the Playstation 3 would be better if it had PS2 emulation, could plug into your mind and costed just £0.25. A neat concept -- but one that's never going to happen. So just deal with it. Clearly this news suggests Sony ARE looking into ways to make that Playstation 2 emulation possible, so just take it at face value and keep your old PS2 for now. It's not really hard.And if you don't have a PS2. Well you could wait and see if Sony make any announcements in the near future on emulation, borrow a friends system or buy one really cheap off eBay. No, they're not perfect solutions, but they're solutions that work. And if you REALLY want "emulation" that much, it's something you'll be willing to look into.Otherwise people are just looking to complain. "
And here it is. get2sammyb pretty much ended this discussion.  "
This. 


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@choffy21 said:
"@The_A_Drain: Sony has developed a reputation (in my book) for not bothering to make consumers happy. No price drop. Broken promises. Lackluster first-party games.

Besides, they did have full PS2 compatibility in two of the six versions of the console that have come out. 33% ain't bad...
"

Lackluster first-party games? I agree with your other points, even though I have a BC PS3. But come-on.


Post by SathingtonWaltz (569 posts) See mini bio
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@Drebin_893 said:
" @choffy21 said:
"@The_A_Drain: Sony has developed a reputation (in my book) for not bothering to make consumers happy. No price drop. Broken promises. Lackluster first-party games.

Besides, they did have full PS2 compatibility in two of the six versions of the console that have come out. 33% ain't bad...
"

Lackluster first-party games? I agree with your other points, even though I have a BC PS3. But come-on. "
Just about all of their first party games have been very high quality games. Either his standards are ridiculous or he's stuck in 2007.


Post by Snapstacle (610 posts) See mini bio
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@SathingtonWaltz said:
" @Drebin_893 said:
" @choffy21 said:
"@The_A_Drain: Sony has developed a reputation (in my book) for not bothering to make consumers happy. No price drop. Broken promises. Lackluster first-party games.

Besides, they did have full PS2 compatibility in two of the six versions of the console that have come out. 33% ain't bad...
"

Lackluster first-party games? I agree with your other points, even though I have a BC PS3. But come-on. "
Just about all of their first party games have been very high quality games. Either his standards are ridiculous or he's stuck in 2007.
"
Or, you know, doesn't play games. Ever.


Post by Mordukai (2,675 posts) See mini bio
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@choffy21 said:
" @The_A_Drain: Sony has developed a reputation (in my book) for not bothering to make consumers happy. No price drop. Broken promises. Lackluster first-party games.

Besides, they did have full PS2 compatibility in two of the six versions of the console that have come out. 33% ain't bad...
"
LBP, Killzone 2, MAG, Heavy Rain, The Last Guardian, God of War 3, GT 5,  InFAMOUS, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Uncharted: Among Thieves, Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction/Quest for Booty/Crack in Time , Resistance: Fall of Man, Resistance 2..YUP! You are right, Lackluster first-party games. No denying that.  Have you gone off the deep end?!


Post by SathingtonWaltz (569 posts) See mini bio
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@Snapstacle said:
" @SathingtonWaltz said:
" @Drebin_893 said:
" @choffy21 said:
"@The_A_Drain: Sony has developed a reputation (in my book) for not bothering to make consumers happy. No price drop. Broken promises. Lackluster first-party games.

Besides, they did have full PS2 compatibility in two of the six versions of the console that have come out. 33% ain't bad...
"

Lackluster first-party games? I agree with your other points, even though I have a BC PS3. But come-on. "
Just about all of their first party games have been very high quality games. Either his standards are ridiculous or he's stuck in 2007.
"
Or, you know, doesn't play games. Ever. "
Yeah that too. I can only think of two "lack-luster" first party games from Sony off the top of my head. (Lair, and Haze) Everything else has been great. 


Post by Mordukai (2,675 posts) See mini bio
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@Snapstacle said:
" @SathingtonWaltz said:
" @Drebin_893 said:
" @choffy21 said:
"@The_A_Drain: Sony has developed a reputation (in my book) for not bothering to make consumers happy. No price drop. Broken promises. Lackluster first-party games.

Besides, they did have full PS2 compatibility in two of the six versions of the console that have come out. 33% ain't bad...
"

Lackluster first-party games? I agree with your other points, even though I have a BC PS3. But come-on. "
Just about all of their first party games have been very high quality games. Either his standards are ridiculous or he's stuck in 2007.
"
Or, you know, doesn't play games. Ever. "
What has choffy21 been smoking...I want some of that.  


Post by choffy21 (954 posts) See mini bio
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Maybe I should have been more specific. Their lack of support of third-party publishers to make first party games is bad. They lost exclusivity to Grand Theft Auto IV, Assassin's Creed, Final Fantasy XI, Tekken 6, etc. They're just kinda cheap.

That or Microsoft is just sending wheelburrows of cash.


Post by Mordukai (2,675 posts) See mini bio
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@choffy21 said:

That or Microsoft is just sending wheelburrows of cash.
"
Make that a whole army of wheelbarrows full of cash. Sony has a long standing rule of not paying for third part developers/publishers exclusive and Ms used that to deal them some nice blows. That all might change though because Howard Stringer is the CEO now and he said that he is going to do some "sacred cow" killings in Sony. He has been very vocal in his criticism towards the japanese management.

What you should have said is that Sony's Third-Party Developers/Publishers support for making exclusives is lackluster. 


Post by Mordukai (2,675 posts) See mini bio
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@choffy21: Also, Ubisoft Never said that Assassin's Creed is going to be a ps3 exclusive. They first announced it as an xbox 360 game titled Project Assassin and later mantioned it as a ps3 game titled Assassin's Creed. The word 'Exclusive' was never attached to it. 


Post by agentboolen (309 posts) See mini bio
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I find it very odd that there so bad at keeping the PS2 games running on the PS3 since the PS2 had no problem running PS1 games. 

If I ever bought a PS3 I would definetly want to be able to play the ton of PS2 games I own.  At the moment I don't have a PS3, I have a 360 but might buy it down the road just for the blue ray player, it would be nice to finally retire that PS2!


Post by Mordukai (2,675 posts) See mini bio
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@agentboolen said:
" I find it very odd that there so bad at keeping the PS2 games running on the PS3 since the PS2 had no problem running PS1 games.  If I ever bought a PS3 I would definetly want to be able to play the ton of PS2 games I own.  At the moment I don't have a PS3, I have a 360 but might buy it down the road just for the blue ray player, it would be nice to finally retire that PS2! "
Sooooo...you only going to buy a PS3 Just for the BD and to play your PS2 games? then why don't you just go and get a cheap Magnavox BD player and be done with it. . What about all the other great ps3 games that are out now and are coming out in the future. You really want to tell me that you are going to buy a PS3
just for the BD. I am not trying to sound offensive but it seem kinda of an idiotic statement. 


Post by C0V3RT (251 posts) See mini bio
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I would play my PS3 more if my model were backwards compat.  I dont own a PS2 so would totally go out and buy the old PS2 classics I missed out on. 


Post by Satune (290 posts) See mini bio
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O god I hope they do this soon!


Post by Aquinas (27 posts) See mini bio
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@Mordukai said: You really want to tell me that you are going to buy a PS3 just for the BD. I am not trying to sound offensive but it seem kinda of an idiotic statement.

PS3 is still one of the highest quality BD players on the market.  Pound for pound, especially with a price cut looming, it's still the best one of the best values in the BD player market.  High quality, and easily upgradeable.


Post by Mordukai (2,675 posts) See mini bio
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@Aquinas: Not going to argue about that point. The ps3 is the best BD player on the market and will be for a long time to come since its BD firmware can be updated through the internet. He said he will get a PS3 just for the BD player, so he has no interest in all the great exclusive games that system has to offer?. That kind of statement is something that a none gamer will say. 

Edit: The ps3 is also one of the best DVD players out there, The upscaling capabilities are truly amazing. 


Post by choffy21 (954 posts) See mini bio
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@Mordukai: So then why did you bash him in his earlier post? It seems as if you completely agree with him.

By the way, Ubisoft approached Sony with an offer to make Assassin's Creed a PlayStation 3 exclusive and they didn't want it.


Post by Mordukai (2,675 posts) See mini bio
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@choffy21: I didn't bash him at all. all i said that statement like his is kind of idiotic coming from a gamer. In no way shape or form did I call him an idiot. The ps3 is the best BD on the market but if he is just wants for the BD then just go and Buy a BD player. Why pay $400 for a BD when you can get a good one for $250 and use the remaining money to buy BD movies?

Also, my post was not meant as a bash, if it came off like it then I apologize.


Post by Aquinas (27 posts) See mini bio
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@Mordukai said:
" Not going to argue about that point. The ps3 is the best BD player on the market and will be for a long time to come since its BD firmware can be updated through the internet. He said he will get a PS3 just for the BD player, so he has no interest in all the great exclusive games that system has to offer?. That kind of statement is something that a none gamer will say. 

Edit: The ps3 is also one of the best DVD players out there, The upscaling capabilities are truly amazing. 
"
Hey, different strokes for different folks.  He may feel fully satisfied with what he has as is, gaming wise.  Depends on his own personal tastes.


Post by Mordukai (2,675 posts) See mini bio
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@Aquinas said:
" @Mordukai said:
" Not going to argue about that point. The ps3 is the best BD player on the market and will be for a long time to come since its BD firmware can be updated through the internet. He said he will get a PS3 just for the BD player, so he has no interest in all the great exclusive games that system has to offer?. That kind of statement is something that a none gamer will say. 

Edit: The ps3 is also one of the best DVD players out there, The upscaling capabilities are truly amazing. 
"
Hey, different strokes for different folks.  He may feel fully satisfied with what he has as is, gaming wise.  Depends on his own personal tastes. "
  



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@Snapstacle said:
"@SathingtonWaltz said:
" @Drebin_893 said:
" @choffy21 said:
"@The_A_Drain: Sony has developed a reputation (in my book) for not bothering to make consumers happy. No price drop. Broken promises. Lackluster first-party games.

Besides, they did have full PS2 compatibility in two of the six versions of the console that have come out. 33% ain't bad...
"

Lackluster first-party games? I agree with your other points, even though I have a BC PS3. But come-on. "
Just about all of their first party games have been very high quality games. Either his standards are ridiculous or he's stuck in 2007.
"
Or, you know, doesn't play games. Ever."

Or he just has an opinion, shock horror.

Honestly, i'm not going to knock people who love the PS3's first party games, they are high quality titles and  deserve attention, but the majority of them i'm simply not interested in, or only interested in a small amount and wouldn't buy a PS3 for because the genre already has enough games to suit me elsewhere.

Don't get me wrong, they are cracking titles, but Lair, Motorstorm, Uncharted, Buzz!, Ratchett and Clank and Heavenly Sword don't really interest me, and things like Resistance, Resistance 2, inFamous etc do interest me, but I have enough action games to play already that I don't need them. And I played Folklore on a friends PS3, it was really good. I'm also only interested in playing MGS4 if I get a PS3, not interested in getting a PS3 just to play it.


Post by Mordukai (2,675 posts) See mini bio
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@The_A_Drain: Have you ever played a ratchet and clank game?

I will agree with you that Lair is shit but hey even MS have their share of game blunders. and Motorstorm is okish, though I did enjoy Pacific Rift more but damn I needed more tracks. The tracks in Pacific Rift, if you can even cal them tracks, were awesome. 


Post by The_A_Drain (3,216 posts) See mini bio
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@Mordukai:

I didn't say they were shit, in fact I explicitly stated they were all high quality titles. I have played a Ratchett and Clank game, and shock horror I have an opinion on them, they do not interest me. It's not the games fault, i'm simply not interested in playing it.


Post by Mordukai (2,675 posts) See mini bio
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wow, I bit touchy are we. I only wanted to know if you played a ratchet and clank game. and lair is shit. 


Post by The_A_Drain (3,216 posts) See mini bio
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@Mordukai said:
"wow, I bit touchy are we. I only wanted to know if you played a ratchet and clank game. and lair is shit.  "

Well if you made a comment, and someone else jumped down your throat with accusations that were nowhere near in line with your original statement, you'd be a bit touchy as well.

And Lair is much better once they patched the controls.

It's not compulsory for someone to love Ratchet and Clank, if I have no interest in it I can't be expected to get all that excited about it as an exclusive title.


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@The_A_Drain said:
" What the hell do you mean awesome? Surely you mean, about fucking time seeing as they promised full PS2 compatability from the start... "
And they had it from the start.  It went out of fashion and came back.  Like rumble, or disco.

@get2sammyb said:
I put it on my desk next to my Playstation 3. It's amazing because I can play Playstation 3 games and Playstation 2 games. Who would have thought?
For that extra feeling of add-on-ness, you can even connect them with a USB patch cable!  LOOK, it's an EXPANSION!  Though it might work better if it didn't have an upside down PS1 disc in the tray. ;-)

Amusingly I saw a young woman on the bus today with a shiny new PS2 purchase.  Can't stop the fever.


Post by The_A_Drain (3,216 posts) See mini bio
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@Brackynews:

Yeah except, as i've said a million billion, zillion times before, not in fucking Europe. And only in a select number of release consoles for a very short amount of time. It's not something that went out of fashion, the market dictates what is and isn't in fashion, this was Sony's decisions and Sony's decision alone.


Post by Byakuei (3 posts) See mini bio

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I not getting my hopes up. KNowing Sony and their release schedule for important updates, we might not see this one until late 2010.





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