PS4 has huMA. Xbox One doesn't. Will it make a difference?

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#2 Posted by Jeust (10655 posts) -

Personally if the modification is really that impressive performance-wise, it will make an impact in the console market. I think so because if the PS4 really outshines the Xbox One in sales, console oriented developers will possibly prefer to program for the PS4, what will make them more prone to take advantage of all the kinks in the hardware and software.

Of course it is important the ease to programming in each console, but according to PS4 official statements, Sony is focused in simplifying programming for the developers.

I think the PS4 have everything to win this generation from the start.

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#4 Edited by Jeust (10655 posts) -

@sergio said:

There's already a similar thread with this info.

What thread?

#5 Posted by Krakn3Dfx (2490 posts) -

According to AMD's own words it will, but it's also possible Xbox One has something similar to hUMA, although not the same, since the system's stated specs don't meet the requirements for hUMA utilization.

PS4 has a leg up in a lot of areas technically, so something like this would only add to that gap.

#6 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

According to AMD's own words it will, but it's also possible Xbox One has something similar to hUMA, although not the same, since the system's stated specs don't meet the requirements for hUMA utilization.

PS4 has a leg up in a lot of areas technically, so something like this would only add to that gap.

John Carmack and Kojima both said the consoles are very very similar. AMD also retracted its little statement about hUMA and even on reddit a X1 dev stated they have their own version of hUMA.

#9 Posted by Krakn3Dfx (2490 posts) -

@krakn3dfx said:

According to AMD's own words it will, but it's also possible Xbox One has something similar to hUMA, although not the same, since the system's stated specs don't meet the requirements for hUMA utilization.

PS4 has a leg up in a lot of areas technically, so something like this would only add to that gap.

John Carmack and Kojima both said the consoles are very very similar. AMD also retracted its little statement about hUMA and even on reddit a X1 dev stated they have their own version of hUMA.

Carmack said that alongside the fact that he hasn't benchmarked the systems at all. AMD retracted the statement to get out from under MS because it was made outside of NDA agreements. I said in my post the XBO may have something similar, but it won't fully support the hUMA spec because announced system specs don't meet the requirements.

Also, Sony joined the HSA (Heterogeneous System Architecture) Foundation originally co-founded by AMD while Microsoft has not.

#10 Edited by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

@krakn3dfx said:

@the_laughing_man said:

@krakn3dfx said:

According to AMD's own words it will, but it's also possible Xbox One has something similar to hUMA, although not the same, since the system's stated specs don't meet the requirements for hUMA utilization.

PS4 has a leg up in a lot of areas technically, so something like this would only add to that gap.

John Carmack and Kojima both said the consoles are very very similar. AMD also retracted its little statement about hUMA and even on reddit a X1 dev stated they have their own version of hUMA.

Carmack said that alongside the fact that he hasn't benchmarked the systems at all. AMD retracted the statement to get out from under MS because it was made outside of NDA agreements. I said in my post the XBO may have something similar, but it won't fully support the hUMA spec because announced system specs don't meet the requirements.

Also, Sony joined the HSA (Heterogeneous System Architecture) Foundation originally co-founded by AMD while Microsoft has not.

Hopefully we will hear more at HotChips tomorrow. I really do not think we will see massive difference in multiplat games and again Exclusives will really shine.

As long as we dont have a Bayonetta on PS3 incident we are fine.

Ryse and Forza look amazing BF4 also looks great from what they have shown.

#11 Posted by Krakn3Dfx (2490 posts) -

I don't think Microsoft is going to bail themselves out at a chip developer conference, they'll drop a few phrases to get their base riled up, but 90% of what they talk about will be pretty dry. The facts are ESRAM and DDR3 are not used in a system designed to make use of a hUMA based architecture, even AMD has said that much. Meanwhile the upcoming Kaveri APU from AMD is designed with GDDR5 and hUMA in mind, so it's hardly a stretch to think the APU in the PS4 alongside GDDR5 would support the it.

http://gamingio.com/2013/04/amd-to-bring-gddr5-unified-memory-architecture-for-cpuapus-as-cost-lowers/

#12 Posted by The_Laughing_Man (13629 posts) -

I don't think Microsoft is going to bail themselves out at a chip developer conference, they'll drop a few phrases to get their base riled up, but 90% of what they talk about will be pretty dry. The facts are ESRAM and DDR3 are not used in a system designed to make use of a hUMA based architecture, even AMD has said that much. Meanwhile the upcoming Kaveri APU from AMD is designed with GDDR5 and hUMA in mind, so it's hardly a stretch to think the APU in the PS4 alongside GDDR5 would support the it.

http://gamingio.com/2013/04/amd-to-bring-gddr5-unified-memory-architecture-for-cpuapus-as-cost-lowers/

Its so nice to have a conversation about this stuff and not have people posting massive amounts of flame.

But ya intruth we cant say anything. Im sure there will be a lot of Firmware updates that will help both systems. Again I really do not think we will see massive differences in multiplat games.

Wonder if MS will drop the Bullshit about the Cloud helping boost their CPU/GPU.

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