The best thing nobody is talking about regarding the PS4.

#1 Edited by Sooty (8082 posts) -

x86

So what, do you think the days of Bayonetta and Far Cry on PS3 are over or are shitty ports unavoidable? Are the current rumours suggesting the 360 is x86 too? Maybe 360, PS3 and PC releases will be more common than ever.

edit: actually that is a bit harsh on Far Cry 3, replace it with Skyrim or Fallout.

#2 Posted by Clonedzero (3744 posts) -

well its the turn over period of the generation. so yeah, next gen console games are gonna be top end.

in like 5 years, PC games will look better, if people are bothering developing games for super top end PC's still, since well, not alot of money in that.

but everything coming from a common foundation can only be good for everyone.

#3 Edited by Sooty (8082 posts) -

@clonedzero said:

well its the turn over period of the generation. so yeah, next gen console games are gonna be top end.

in like 5 years, PC games will look better, if people are bothering developing games for super top end PC's still, since well, not alot of money in that.

but everything coming from a common foundation can only be good for everyone.

Huh? I just meant ports should now be of higher quality now that the PS4 isn't using a bullshit architecture.

I'll wager that the Witcher 3 will look better on PC in 2014 than it will on the PS4 and Nextbox, but is it really worth it to state something that obvious?

With the last set of consoles PC games were better from the get go, and then in 2007 Crysis took things to another level.

#4 Posted by EXTomar (4128 posts) -

"x86" just means there are various compatibility issues that are avoided but it isn't like making a console game got any easier.

#5 Posted by Pr1mus (3523 posts) -

Yes ports will be better. Every rumors for the nextbox points to similar hardware too.

#6 Posted by McGhee (6091 posts) -

I have no idea what you are talking about right now.

#7 Posted by EXTomar (4128 posts) -

What developers get with the AMD processor is that they don't need some custom/crazy/expensive compiler and tools to build games. But since the GPU and hardware components are custom along with the special kernel it isn't like this makes games that much easier to create on either Win-PC (or Mac) or PS4.

#8 Posted by BoFooQ (623 posts) -

I think the blizzard deal could be huge. First off diablo 3 will be day one release on ps4, even though its over a year old its never been on consoles. Blizzard will also help work on the cross platform play between ps4 and PC. This will help blizzard sell more copies of diablo now and the biggest part of the deal is the future. What is their next game? will it be on ps4? This could become a huge deal in 2-3 when that game comes out.

#9 Posted by GERALTITUDE (2812 posts) -

What people should be talking about are all the companies getting fucked out of their porting jobs because it'll be so easy for devs to do it themselves now.

Poor bastards. We hated your games then and no one will miss you now.

#10 Posted by PandaBear (1264 posts) -

(conference ends, then a few hours later)

NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT x86 DUDEZZ!!

Uhhhhh .... x86 architecture isn't a magic bullet. It's a step in the right direction though.

#11 Posted by Dauthi693 (129 posts) -

What people should be talking about are all the companies getting fucked out of their porting jobs because it'll be so easy for devs to do it themselves now.

Poor bastards. We hated your games then and no one will miss you now.

Hell they might be that similar all you need to do is change the buttin prompts :P

#12 Posted by Doobit (101 posts) -

Now we just need AMD to stop making GPUs :p

#13 Posted by TruthTellah (7684 posts) -

It depends on the specific way that the PS4 will handle code, but sure, an x86 architecture will help this time around as far as ports go. The GPU and CPU combination will be an interesting one to manage, but that's probably less of a problem with porting and more an opportunity for optimization on the console versus a PC architecture where the two are more distinct.

#14 Edited by mellotronrules (1170 posts) -

it's kinda a big deal. although it doesn't necessarily mean you just write one version of a game (that's a huge oversimplification)- it does send the message to developers, "hey yall, we know that cell business was whack. here's something to make it easier for you." and that's a positive message, because most developers want to be multiplatform. sony's just making the ps4 that much more attractive to develop for.

#15 Edited by ajamafalous (11592 posts) -

it's kinda a big deal. although it doesn't necessarily mean you just write one version of a game (that's a huge oversimplification)- it does send the message to developers, "hey yall, we know that cell business was whack. here's something to make it easier for you." and that's a positive message, because most developers want to be multiplatform. sony's just making the ps4 that much more attractive to develop for.

Yeah, this. To be using the same microarchitecture as PCs is definitely a bigger behind-the-scenes thing than people who don't know any better will give it credit for. Sony's recognizing their misstep with the Cell and bettering themselves for it. I'm sure developers are stoked.

#16 Posted by Winternet (7936 posts) -

It will make the PS4 and the new Xbox very similar to develop to. God, I wished Microsoft did their thing already, so we can say the name of the damn thing.

#17 Posted by Humanity (7998 posts) -

The best thing still remains to be seen, mainly:

will the PS logo rotate depending on vertical or horizontal orientation?

#18 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -

@humanity said:

The best thing still remains to be seen, mainly:

will the PS logo rotate depending on vertical or horizontal orientation?

They need to make the logo show on a tiny LCD to stop it setting people's OCD off. Toggle for horizontal or vertical.

Totally worth any additional cost.

#19 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -

Uhhhhh .... x86 architecture isn't a magic bullet. It's a step in the right direction though.

I never said it was, but after the issues with the architecture of the PS3 and the RAM situation it's a pretty big deal that they are now going x86 and seemingly overcompensating with RAM. I never expected them to throw 8GB in there, certainly not GDDR5.

#20 Posted by GetEveryone (4454 posts) -
#21 Posted by Humanity (7998 posts) -

@sooty said:

@humanity said:

The best thing still remains to be seen, mainly:

will the PS logo rotate depending on vertical or horizontal orientation?

They need to make the logo show on a tiny LCD to stop it setting people's OCD off. Toggle for horizontal or vertical.

Totally worth any additional cost.

I'd say worth at least $100 more for this revolutionary motion sensor technology.

Also if they added a button that finds me a girlfriend.

#22 Posted by LiquidPrince (15623 posts) -

I think it just helps with creating multi-platform games that have parity with each other in terms of performance.

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