1. Much smaller system casing

2. No Power Brick

3. Nicer looking system design

4. PS4 can Stand

5. Not as Glossy

6. Removable Hard Drive

7. Over 50% Better GPU

8. 8GB of GDDR5 RAM (Best RAM)

9. OS takes up less resources (More available RAM, and GPU %)

10. More streamlined Tech design (All internal RAM Unified)

11. Better Dev Tools

12. More Open Platform (For Developers to code to the Metal)

13. Easier Publishing for Indie devs

14. More Indie Dev support

15. More Japan Support (Based off PS1/PS2/PS3)

16. Better 1st Party developers

17. Vita Remote play Integration

18. PS4 can play anywhere (Not limited to certain countries)

19. No region Locking

20. Touchpad on Controller

21. Speaker on Controller

22. No Online Passes (Even for 3rd party games)

23. PS4 not Reliant on server Ping to play games every 24 hours

24 Sell your games to anyone you want at anytime (Even 30 years from now)

25. Loan your games to anyone as much as you want (No limit)

26. Able to rent games

27. Facebook friends list

28. Camera not forced to be plugged in

29. Camera not forced with SKU

30. $100 Cheaper

This is not a blog. I call malarky.

What part of it is malarky?

That is a list, not a blog post.

im with ya

but the minute MS says fuck this on those nasty policies, they are fully right back in the fight.

Everyone knows there's a lot of bullshit regarding the Xbox One and that Sony are 1-upping them, we get it.

There's a Wii remote style speaker in the controller?!

• Better DEV tools
• More streamlined Tech design
• More Open Platform (For Developers to code to the Metal)
• Better 1st Party developers
• Touchpad on Controller

ARE YOU A PS4 DEVELOPER, How Do you know this?

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@creamypies said:

Yeah, I bet the bass response on it will be super awesome. You'll be able to listen to some dope-ass beats on it!

It's still too early to tell. Sony started this generation off as the laughing stock and now all of the sudden they're our "saviors". But this is the internet we're talking about, so go ahead and make your lists I guess.

Yes, it has a speaker

To some of the others here... I didn't say it was a blog. It's a list of the reasons why I think the PS4 will be the best system. Oh, and even if Microsoft reversed their policies, the Xbone would still be far weaker, more expensive, far bigger/uglier, have less Indie devs, less Japan support, weaker 1st party, a more closed platform, and have a bunch of people who insulted a big percentage of gamers that will not give Microsoft another dime of their money.

Omg.... Another posting: why I believe possibly the mostly universally accepted belief on the Internet today

I'm glad someone finally decided to take the other viewpoint on this issue to write such a hardhitting and controversial list.

It's kind of obvious.

the speaker stuff sounds actually kind of cool,

only reason im saying that is im imagining transistor using that and having the narrator speak through the controller.

Fabian Giesen works at http://www.radgametools.com/ and he was once employed at BINK!

See, i have more proof than you have.

I did consider that to some extent (I remember how you could use a headset in Pandora Tomorrow and audio from Lambert would be isolated to come through the earpiece) but in practice I'd rather just have full game audio through the headphone jack, which I'll be surprised if it actually does.

@mikewarrior said:

@bigjeffrey said:

• Better DEV tools
• More streamlined Tech design
• More Open Platform (For Developers to code to the Metal)
• Better 1st Party developers
• Touchpad on Controller

ARE YOU A PS4 DEVELOPER, How Do you know this?

PLAY$TATION

SHILL SHILL SHILL SHILLSHILL SHILLSHILL SHILLSHILL

SHILLSHILL SHILLSHILL SHILL SHILL SHILLSHILL SHILLSHILL SHILL

SHILLSHILL SHILLSHILL SHILL SHILL SHILLSHILL SHILLSHILL SHILL

Fabian Giesen works at http://www.radgametools.com/ and he was once employed at BINK!

See, i have more proof than you have.

He/She is joking. Their avatar is a character from a (mainly) PlayStation exclusive series!

Where was that said? Last I heard Tretton said 3rd parties can implement whatever they want but Sony's games won't include that stuff.

PlayStation 4 currently beats Xbox One in terms of raw power and has a more mature developer environment, Avalanche Studios has told us. - Here's More

So, am I still a shill? Nothing I have said that can't be backed up with info about it. It's not my fault some of you don't know it.

Damn, I was clowned yo!

Plot twist: Nintendo wins console wars.

EDIT one more time -

http://www.giantbomb.com/podcasts/sony-s-scott-rohde-answers-your-burning-ps4-questi/1600-504/

It's from this site lol

Download MP3

Here he is again

Sony is aswome...

right i did forget that pandora tommorow could do that, as much as that stuff is ultimately novel, i still find it kind of cool. no matter how tinny that stuff sounds.

but yea transmitting the game audio through the headphone jack on the controller, highly doubt that would happen.

@mrfluke: Yeah, ordinarily I'd think that's too much info for a wireless connection. Although, and I might just be going crazy, didn't one of the E3 pressers have them briefly showing off a wireless 5.1 headset?

UPDATE: okay, didn't know this existed already. There's a fair chance that'll work with PS4, right?

Sony GETS it, and you can tell by the way they are talking compared to Microsoft's people who are not being clear on anything. People like Don Mattrick, Phil Spencer, Major Nelson insult people's intelligence, and dance around issues they know would not be popular. It's why they don't give clear answers and redirect to things like "Have you seen Titanfall?" or, "Lets get the system out first"

Microsoft became the biggest joke the game industry has ever seen in less than a month.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

Nothing about it is a joke. It's real

EDIT - Oh, were you talking about the mention of Microsoft?

@evilnights: im sure it should work with the ps4, i mean judging from that product page, its just a usb dongle it uses.

@mikewarrior: Well it reads like a joke when your first five reasons are:

"1. Much smaller system casing

2. No Power Brick

3. Nicer looking system design

4. PS4 can Stand

5. Not as Glossy"

But then it sort of devolves into something I would have read on System Wars from like 7 years ago.

yep, wasnt going to make a thread about this, but feel free if you wanna do it

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/17/4439398/microsoft-over-delivering-value-with-499-xbox-one-mattrick-says

i really wonder sometimes if Microsoft just brainwashes their employees

I guess you didn't read the title of the thread. It's what I think, and most of those are facts except the Nicer looking system design is subjective, but then again it's what I think.

This is obviously a spambot planted here by big P$.

I can obviously see this reality hurts people's feelings. lol

Microsoft really has lost it. Even if they tried to fix their idiotic policies, it's way to late. The damage has been done, and their ignorant reasoning is insulting. It's like they spit in our face, and expect us to lap it up.

Only the best way to respond to differing opinions.

This is me being a dick, sorry about that. But the system isn't even out yet, some of the shit posted may or may not be true, you don't know anything about the development tools and design information unless you are developing for it. You can't use that as a point why it is better.

you seem to aggressively hate the xbone, i think you're going to really enjoy this :P

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151675469526023&set=a.10150575545216023.434660.16547831022&type=1

heh!
any time someone mentions anything they think might be a positive with the X1 they get labeled "astroturfer" or some shit. Why bother? Especially on this board.

I agree PS4 looks like the best system. But ultimately it's about software.

@mrfluke:

Why did you have this up and ready to go?

i only replied that to that dude, , wasnt going to make a thread about it as that would just invite unnecessary trouble ,

i find it real interesting that the vitriol hasn't stopped and its not the usual "vocal minority" excuse people like to write these crowds off as. im super curious to see if this ultimately pays off for microsoft

they are obviously listening to that vitriol as well.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151676268646023&set=a.91876221022.119453.16547831022&type=1&relevant_count=1

I listed sources talking about the PS4's tools being better. What else in this list do you not believe?

That all seems really petty.

I've only read the top 4 reasons, but I'm just going to assume the rest are right as well.

more power to those people if they feel so strongly imo.

I agree with your list. But a lot of that stuff can be switched out with new policies for the X1. The main reason I'm looking forward to the PS4 more then the X1 is games. I know Sony will have a ton more games that I want to play. Last generation the main reason I bought a 360 was for Gears of War and Mass Effect. Now Mass Effect is multiplatform, and Gears seems tired and over. So there are no franchises that I care about that are exclusive to the X1. Save perhaps, Quantum Break.

That's one way to get the message to Microsoft, but their ego is getting in the way of seeing the reality of the situation. = Not many good things are being said about the Xbone and the people in charge at Microsoft.