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    PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale

    Game » consists of 8 releases. Released Dec 18, 2012

    Characters from various Sony franchises, and several guests from multi-platform games of the time. Battle it out in this crossover platform fighting game intended to compete with Nintendo's Super Smash Bros.!

    Hideki Kamiya calls Sony all-star super smash bros a rip-off

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    Well, he is right, but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with it.

    These days, it is almost impossible not to create something that could be called a rip-off. Not just in video games, but in any medium.

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    #152  Edited By N7

    Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance is a ripoff of Devil May Cry.
     
    Now how does that feel!? Huh!? HUH!?

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    #153  Edited By obcdexter

    Well, let's be brutally honest here: It is a blatant rip-off. No, not the fact that Sony creates their own cross-over brawler (Nintendo didn't "invent" either of the two things), but the way how it all comes together. The way it looks, is structured, will most likely play - it all just screams at the top of its lungs: "I hope we can copy Smash Bros. story of success." They didn't even try to be original, or so it seems at this point.

    But I still fail to see why that is supposed to be such a big deal. It's not like ripping off successful concepts is anything new in this (or any) line of business - blatant or subtle.

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    #154  Edited By LD50

    @Tobiass said:

    @Rohok said:

    I understand any of what was written in those pictures. Tell that guy to learn english.

    Oh boy, a teabagger that can't spell. You know the nazis are here when you see that flag and the horrible spelling.

    I must be stupid too, but I'm from that country. Which word is spelled wrong?

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    #155  Edited By Wong_Fei_Hung

    Haha, good on him for being so forthright with these Sony kids.

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    #156  Edited By tebbit

    @ma_rc_01 said:

    @Daneian said:

    @49th said:

    No shit kojima go back to metal gear

    uhh...

    Yeah, but I also thought it was kojima at first glance, then I read it again.

    Also, of course it's a ripoff, but I like my playstation characters more than I like the nintendo ones.

    Regardless of the inaccuracy of the reference, his statement stands true.

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    #157  Edited By TMBaker

    I believe we all knew this from first seeing it (battle royale), it's just a matter on whether you really care that it's a plain rip off. I like to think I'd give the game a chance before I hate on it suppose.

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    #158  Edited By Deranged

    I don't see the issue here. The gaming industry is all about ripping each other off in one way or another.

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    #159  Edited By jeanluc  Staff

    Did anyone ever think it was not a rip-off?

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    #160  Edited By The_Nubster

    @Hailinel said:

    @Video_Game_King said:

    @Hailinel said:

    @The_Nubster said:

    I don't now about what anyone else thinks, but this dude is being kind of a complete fucker.

    All he did was state his opinion of the game on Twitter and then started manhandling the fanboys coming out of the woodwork. That's not exactly being a complete fucker.

    Saying that Sony threw away their morals by making this game (or whatever the hell he's saying) is, though.

    Nope. Because once again, that's his opinion.

    He's allowed to have his opinion, but he's being a complete fucker about it. He's just stating a thing (a thing which insults everyone who's pouring their heart and soul into PS All-Stars), not backing it up with anything, and then proceeding to insult people who are just asking for the reasoning behind his thoughts. And saying that making a similar game is morally bankrupt is absolutely ridiculous; that condemns entire genres which exist on shared gameplay mechanics, like RTS games and FPS games. All-Stars is not the first, nor will it be the last, arena-based fighter, and it isn't any less for using Smash Bros. as an inspiration.

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    #161  Edited By napalm

    This guy is my fucking hero. Give this guy a bigger platform, please.

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    He's not wrong, but he's being a real cocksucker about it. Does he expect us to live in a world where there is one franchise per genre or gameplay style? Doesn't that preclude him from making his own style of game since he doesn't make DMC anymore? Vanquish is a cover shooter, Project 100 is a Pikman game.

    Games are becoming exactly like music and film for me; the guys who make art I like I find personally repellant. The guys who I do like personally, I can't say I like most of their work (Paul Barnett, David Jaffe). Now I think Hideki Kamiya is an arrogant shithead. I guess that's the new magic of the social networking world.

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    #163  Edited By Gaff

    I suddenly feel the urge to play Outfoxies (1994).

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    #164  Edited By cap123

    Kamiya is one of the best twitterers

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    #165  Edited By buft

    We all got behind the people claiming zynga games where a ripoff and for me i can get behind this too, doesnt mean i want to stop it coming out but its looking extremely similar

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    #166  Edited By Timnoldzim

    Kind of weird that he'd get so worked up about this. I mean, he didn't work on Smash Bros. at all, did he?

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    #167  Edited By Scrawnto

    @Gaff said

    I suddenly feel the urge to play Outfoxies (1994).

    Dude! That looks awesome! I can't believe I've never heard of it before. It looks a little like The Showdown Effect.

    : Considering he created both DMC and Bayonetta, I'd say not. I doubt he'd call SSB: Brawl a ripoff of the original SSB.

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    #168  Edited By CitizenKano

    @Bourbon_Warrior: Says the dude with a green name tag.

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    #169  Edited By Zleunamme

    Captain Obvious should be thanked for his input. Bayonetta was such an original idea like Devil May Cry was.

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    #170  Edited By Sooty

    I don't care if it's a rip off, I just know that game looks garbage.

    Giving that thing an Evo timeslot making us miss tournament matches...pfft. Fuck that game.

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    #171  Edited By mutha3
    @Zleunamme said:

     Bayonetta was such an original idea like Devil May Cry was.

    this has to be a joke at this point
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    #172  Edited By Cloudenvy

    @CitizenKano said:

    @Bourbon_Warrior: Says the dude with a green name tag.

    God, I wish they'd get rid of the stupid alliance thing and just let us choose a damn color for our name without having to be associated with a platform or company.

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    #173  Edited By iamjohn

    Kamiya is hilarious and doesn't fuck around and this is why I love him.

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    #174  Edited By Getz

    Haha, I love the trash talk. Kamiya is a badass.

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    #175  Edited By jmood88

    His responses are hilarious.

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    #176  Edited By xyzygy

    @Zleunamme said:

    Captain Obvious should be thanked for his input. Bayonetta was such an original idea like Devil May Cry was.

    Ummm... lol

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    #178  Edited By SethPhotopoulos

    @Scrawnto said:

    @Gaff said

    I suddenly feel the urge to play Outfoxies (1994).

    Dude! That looks awesome! I can't believe I've never heard of it before. It looks a little like The Showdown Effect.

    : Considering he created both DMC and Bayonetta, I'd say not. I doubt he'd call SSB: Brawl a ripoff of the original SSB.

    Okami borrows heavily from Zelda and Project P-100 borrows heavily from Pikmin. The base is the same as the game it takes from but builds on it interestingly like with the paint mechanic in Okami and the ability to punch things with people in Project P-100. I feel like PSA:BR builds on the SSB formula considering how you defeat you're opponents, build a super meter, the stages being combinations of franchises, Sony's willingness to use insane characters. The problem is that it looks the most like the game it takes from and barely anyone has played it. For Okami it's hard to know it borrows from Zelda until you play it and with Project P-100 Platinum games have such a good reputation that people will let anything they do slide. This is a new developer from one of the big three platform publishers. People do not want to even give this game a chance. This game could have a lot that's different from SSB but because it doesn't have a public demo yet and all you have is a few pictures and video people are just bombing this game.

    SSB needs more direct competition like this, everyone else that has tried it has either didn't have a lot of clout or were released only in Japan. Dissidia doesn't compete because it's so different from SSB as well as being a PSP exclusive. Sony and Microsoft are the only ones that could compete with SSB.

    I hesitate to call this game a rip off yet because it means that it is inferior to the original product. We have to wait for it to come out for us to really know.

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    #179  Edited By EvilKatarn

    Hideki Kamiya's twitter is basically the only reason I still use that thing.

    One might at best say that Kamiya's games are inspired by something but they always stray so far from the source that it's forgivable. RE2 is a revered title, DMC pretty much set the standard for every amazing action game to come and he exceeded his own game with Bayonetta.

    Whereas Playstation All-Stars: Battle Royale looks incredibly bland and everyone with half a brain can see that it's nothing more than an iterative rip-off of that one Nintendo game.

    @Berserker976 said:

    So, uh, Mr. Kamiya... does that mean Bayonetta is a rip-off of DMC?

    I hope that post is not serious in any way. I think it isn't.

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    #180  Edited By Rohok

    @LD50 said:

    @Tobiass said:

    @Rohok said:

    I understand any of what was written in those pictures. Tell that guy to learn english.

    Oh boy, a teabagger that can't spell. You know the nazis are here when you see that flag and the horrible spelling.

    I must be stupid too, but I'm from that country. Which word is spelled wrong?

    I left out don't in a horrible late night typo. It should've read "I don't understand".

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    #181  Edited By Jimbo

    It is a blatant rip-off, but then so are a lot of games.
     
    Also, sick burn on NEOgaf.

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    #182  Edited By Dagbiker

    Im just going to leave this here.

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    Well... it is.

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    #184  Edited By Binarynova

    Everything's a remix.

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    #185  Edited By Berserker976

    @EvilKatarn: yeah, it's serious. I know he essentially created both games, but it's not like it's the same franchise. One was a capcom game, one was a sega game.

    If the director of SSB had gone and helped make Playstation All-Stars would that suddenly make this game not a rip-off in your eyes? Otherwise it still seems like a weird double standard.

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    #186  Edited By Yodasdarkside

    Darksiders turned out pretty good. Just sayin'.

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    #187  Edited By scarace360

    But it is a rip off. Dosen't make it a bad game but it totally is a rip off.

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    #188  Edited By LD50

    @Rohok said:

    @LD50 said:

    @Tobiass said:

    @Rohok said:

    I understand any of what was written in those pictures. Tell that guy to learn english.

    Oh boy, a teabagger that can't spell. You know the nazis are here when you see that flag and the horrible spelling.

    I must be stupid too, but I'm from that country. Which word is spelled wrong?

    I left out don't in a horrible late night typo. It should've read "I don't understand".

    Meh, I know. I didn't like the OP confusing Old Glory with nazi paraphernalia. I was getting into position to give him a tune-up. I'm not mad at him. I'm tired of the casual bigotry.

    I don't even necessarily agree with your comment. Japan has gone to great lengths to communicate with the world, and I understood what was in all the pics. I'm not even that smart. No disrespect meant.

    Anyway, carry on Sir.

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    #189  Edited By psykhophear
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    #190  Edited By falling_fast

    op is incredibly poorly written/designed to piss people off.

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    #191  Edited By LD50

    And the fact that you grammatically fucked up a comment criticizing someones English was fucking awesome. That's why I'm following you. That's some shit I would do.

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    #192  Edited By EvilKatarn

    @Berserker976 Bayonetta improved DMC's action formula, not to mention that the game looks entirely different from DMC. Kamiya hasn't made two games which would look similar.

    PS AS:BR looks like a lackluster game, a ripoff and an inferior game to Smash Bros. Those are my opinions, of course, but I think they're right.

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    #193  Edited By Berserker976

    @EvilKatarn said:

    PS AS:BR looks like a lackluster game, a ripoff and an inferior game to Smash Bros. Those are my opinions, of course, but I think they're right.

    One could have easily made that same argument before Bayonetta had come out. ;)

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    #194  Edited By EvilKatarn

    @Berserker976: Possibly. I don't know if I didn't see all those comments or if I didn't follow gaming as much back then, but I was maybe a bit too stoked for Bayonetta before release to comment on that.

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    #195  Edited By DukesT3

    Sure is and for some reason it appeals to me more than Smash Bros.

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    #196  Edited By Bloodgraiv3

    He's right, that doesn't make it a bad thing but still.

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    #197  Edited By awesomeusername

    @Deusx said:

    I think All-Stars is a despicable attempt from Sony to keep their horribly numb and week franchises relevant.

    Really? That's now what millions of other people think.

    @TheHT said:

    example:

    Person A: Video_Game_King is a retarded fucking moron with an utter lack of intelligence and complete disregard for all life.

    Person B: Based on what?

    Person A: My opinion, BEEYOTCH.

    This made ma laugh. Thank you.

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    #198  Edited By Colt

    I love how this is the kind of thing everyone dreams about.

    I'm sure a lot of us have thought, "Imagine if they made SSB for other consoles with all their own characters, that would be so awesome!"

    Good to know if it actually does happen people flip their shit.

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    #199  Edited By Krakn3Dfx

    This looks a lot better graphically than 2 Super Smash Bros taped together, but yeah, same concept and very similar execution.

    I don't really have a problem with it, if it's good, I'll pick it up, especially since I'll get a Vita copy for free.

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    @Colt

    I love how this is the kind of thing everyone dreams about.

    I'm sure a lot of us have thought, "Imagine if they made SSB for other consoles with all their own characters, that would be so awesome!"

    Good to know if it actually does happen people flip their shit.

    I constantly come up with 2D fighters where EA fights Ubisoft and Square rights Konami and so on.

    Dude though, Wrex and Isaac Clarke fight Ezio and Rayman and Lara Croft and Sora fight Solid Snake and Pyramid Head. Why isn't this a game?

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