I think Nathan Drake was a given, but I'm glad that Sony isn't afraid to branch out a bit and get an awesome character like Big Daddy into the game.

Is this enough to get anyone else as excited as I am? I still think it's an awful title, but I've been waiting for a Sony-themed SSB game for a long time.

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

Not only are there no specific ties, but the PS3 was also the last system to get the original Bioshock. I think it was over a year after it came out on PC and 360. But big daddies are awesome so it's great they'll be in the game. It's also really telling about how open the spectrum of third party characters can end up being. There could be some interesting potential here.

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

@Azteris: I bet he'll be like Bowser in SSB. Super slow but damn powerful.

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

yeah, but wasn't bioshock released on the PS3 like months after? It's a really weird choice. Someone like Chell, or even a MK guy would make more sense considering both games had features the 360 version did not have.

Eh, I dunno. I'm all for it. The crazier the better which is what this game needs.

@Animasta said:

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

yeah, but wasn't bioshock released on the PS3 like months after? It's a really weird choice. Someone like Chell, or even a MK guy would make more sense considering both games had features the 360 version did not have.

Not only is that logic boring and irrelevant to me, but even by it you're still wrong. As noted, the PS3 version had exclusive challenge levels. Which is a semantic little checkbox, if that's what mattered to you about the roster. I'll be busy worrying if they're fun to play or what their supers will be.

@Animasta said:

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

yeah, but wasn't bioshock released on the PS3 like months after? It's a really weird choice. Someone like Chell, or even a MK guy would make more sense considering both games had features the 360 version did not have.

Didn't Kevin Levine say at E3 last year that Irrational was making a Bioshock game for the Vita?

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

I just don't see this as a good sign. The Super Smash Bros. series didn't have any third-party guests until Brawl (Solid Snake and Sonic). But Snake had been in a game co-developed by Nintendo (Twin Snakes) and Sonic was popularly asked for because of his status as the primary rival mascot of Mario. In that sense, it made sense for their inclusion after two games of strictly Nintendo characters. But either Sony isn't diving deep enough into their well to pull out characters from their roster or the options they consider the most viable are already drying up.

@Hailinel said:

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

I just don't see this as a good sign. The Super Smash Bros. series didn't have any third-party guests until Brawl (Solid Snake and Sonic). But Snake had been in a game co-developed by Nintendo (Twin Snakes) and Sonic was popularly asked for because of his status as the primary rival mascot of Mario. In that sense, it made sense for their inclusion after two games of strictly Nintendo characters. But either Sony isn't diving deep enough into their well to pull out characters from their roster or the options they consider the most viable are already drying up.

You feel that it's reasonable to worry that Sony is running out of character ideas because the 7th or so character reveal just happened to be a third-party character? Even after that's what people asked about when they revealed all firsty party characters in the trailer? Or do you just want to cast doubt? Because that all it seems like.

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

I just don't see this as a good sign. The Super Smash Bros. series didn't have any third-party guests until Brawl (Solid Snake and Sonic). But Snake had been in a game co-developed by Nintendo (Twin Snakes) and Sonic was popularly asked for because of his status as the primary rival mascot of Mario. In that sense, it made sense for their inclusion after two games of strictly Nintendo characters. But either Sony isn't diving deep enough into their well to pull out characters from their roster or the options they consider the most viable are already drying up.

@N7 said:

@Hailinel said:

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

I just don't see this as a good sign. The Super Smash Bros. series didn't have any third-party guests until Brawl (Solid Snake and Sonic). But Snake had been in a game co-developed by Nintendo (Twin Snakes) and Sonic was popularly asked for because of his status as the primary rival mascot of Mario. In that sense, it made sense for their inclusion after two games of strictly Nintendo characters. But either Sony isn't diving deep enough into their well to pull out characters from their roster or the options they consider the most viable are already drying up.

They already said there were going to be third-party guest characters. I don't see the problem.

Meh. Well, it's hard for me to get really psyched about this game to begin with. Sony's first-party characters have never really been favorites of mine, and that they're gung-ho on including third-party characters at this stage just doesn't strike me as a good thing.

@Hailinel said:

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

I just don't see this as a good sign. The Super Smash Bros. series didn't have any third-party guests until Brawl (Solid Snake and Sonic). But Snake had been in a game co-developed by Nintendo (Twin Snakes) and Sonic was popularly asked for because of his status as the primary rival mascot of Mario. In that sense, it made sense for their inclusion after two games of strictly Nintendo characters. But either Sony isn't diving deep enough into their well to pull out characters from their roster or the options they consider the most viable are already drying up.

There options aren't "drying up". They still have all their mascots from PS2 to pick and choose from (Ratchet, Clank, Quark, Jak, Daxter, Sly, Bentley), all the PSone characters (Crash Bandicoot, Spyro?, Ape Escape, any Final Fantasy character), and a bunch of obvious PS3 choices.

@TurboMan said:

@Hailinel said:

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

I just don't see this as a good sign. The Super Smash Bros. series didn't have any third-party guests until Brawl (Solid Snake and Sonic). But Snake had been in a game co-developed by Nintendo (Twin Snakes) and Sonic was popularly asked for because of his status as the primary rival mascot of Mario. In that sense, it made sense for their inclusion after two games of strictly Nintendo characters. But either Sony isn't diving deep enough into their well to pull out characters from their roster or the options they consider the most viable are already drying up.

There options aren't "drying up". They still have all their mascots from PS2 to pick and choose from (Ratchet, Clank, Quark, Jak, Daxter, Sly, Bentley), all the PSone characters (Crash Bandicoot, Spyro?, Ape Escape, any Final Fantasy character), and a bunch of obvious PS3 choices.

Well, we don't know who's in or out, but that they're already saying, "Yo, we have a Big Daddy in our game!" seems a little desperate. And I'd be shocked if Square Enix gave Sony the greenlight to use a Final Fantasy character in this game.

@Hailinel said:

@N7 said:

@Hailinel said:

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

I just don't see this as a good sign. The Super Smash Bros. series didn't have any third-party guests until Brawl (Solid Snake and Sonic). But Snake had been in a game co-developed by Nintendo (Twin Snakes) and Sonic was popularly asked for because of his status as the primary rival mascot of Mario. In that sense, it made sense for their inclusion after two games of strictly Nintendo characters. But either Sony isn't diving deep enough into their well to pull out characters from their roster or the options they consider the most viable are already drying up.

They already said there were going to be third-party guest characters. I don't see the problem.

Meh. Well, it's hard for me to get really psyched about this game to begin with. Sony's first-party characters have never really been favorites of mine, and that they're gung-ho on including third-party characters at this stage just doesn't strike me as a good thing.

It's E3. Nobody will start talking about the game if they just kept announcing obvious characters. Remember when Snake was announced for SSB Brawl?

@Hailinel: You seem to be overflowing with negativity about this game :'(

If you ask me, the more companies that get involved with this sort of game the better. Fuck, bring on Chell. Make her portal her opponents to the Moon as her super. I'm a genius. Give me million bucks.

@Azteris said:

@Animasta said:

@Azteris said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

I really do feel if this is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situations. The obvious first party characters are treated as boring and unsurprising, and unexpected third-party additions are all of a sudden ridiculed. Then again, this is an internet forum.

EDIT: On topic, both additions sound great, although I'm a bit more excited to see Big Daddy's moveset.

yeah, but wasn't bioshock released on the PS3 like months after? It's a really weird choice. Someone like Chell, or even a MK guy would make more sense considering both games had features the 360 version did not have.

Not only is that logic boring and irrelevant to me, but even by it you're still wrong. As noted, the PS3 version had exclusive challenge levels. Which is a semantic little checkbox, if that's what mattered to you about the roster. I'll be busy worrying if they're fun to play or what their supers will be.

I just said it was weird no need to get angry about it

@StarvingGamer said:

@Hailinel: You seem to be overflowing with negativity about this game :'(

If you ask me, the more companies that get involved with this sort of game the better. Fuck, bring on Chell. Make her portal her opponents to the Moon as her super. I'm a genius. Give me million bucks.

I've had a very long weekend filled with overtime and fatigue, but that's not really an excuse. I'm just...I am not psyched for this game at all.

@StarvingGamer said:

@Hailinel: You seem to be overflowing with negativity about this game :'(

If you ask me, the more companies that get involved with this sort of game the better. Fuck, bring on Chell. Make her portal her opponents to the Moon as her super. I'm a genius. Give me million bucks.

One of the backdrops of the game is Glados, and she's constantly trying to poison sections of the game space while telling Kratos how much weight he's put on since God of War 2.

I want million bucks too!

I could see Cloud in this game

I think all of this talk about Big Daddy not really feeling like a sony character is pretty pointless. SSB had Sonic in it and I thought that was pretty cool (in concept, I hated how he fought). Maybe Big Daddy does feel more like a Microsoft character, but that's kind of awesome because then you can have a microsoft vs sony fight. I really like what they're doing with the lineup so far.

I don't see how Big Daddy is any more out of place in PlayStation All-Stars then Snake was in Super Smash Bros. Brawl. Sounds like a good addition to me, the weirder the better right?

@Hailinel said:

Meh. Well, it's hard for me to get really psyched about this game to begin with. Sony's first-party characters have never really been favorites of mine, and that they're gung-ho on including third-party characters at this stage just doesn't strike me as a good thing.

Got it. You aren't personally interested. Other comments now have context.

Anyway, while I am not a fighting game person by any stretch, color me intrigued. Maybe I've never gotten into these games because I don't give a shit about the characters. With PS2 and PS3 my only consoles, this might just pull me in. And I really like that they are going outside the murderers row of characters. Sticking to exclusives is less important than having cool stages and characters to bounce off each other. A multiplatform battle royale between all the big console characters would be great. Maybe this could lead to that.

I have a feeling this came from some sort of deal with the Bioshock Infinite thing, how the first Bioshock is bundled with the PS3 version of Infinite and Vita getting its own Bioshock game. I don't know, just a feeling.

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

They put Solid Snake in Smash brothers..

Really? I've always felt that the Big Daddy was more of a Microsoft character than a Sony character for some reason.

This is probably good news, now the possibility for more third party characters is open. Open the flood gates!

Now throw in a Boy and his Blob, Goro, the Dragonborn and Gordon Freeman. And we got ourselves a deal Sony.

I bet you thought I was talking about a different Goro!

This really blows the doors wide open in terms of who else might get into the game. Really crazy stuff is now much more reasonable.

@hoossy said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

They put Solid Snake in Smash brothers..

Solid Snake was in a game co-developed by Nintendo.

Nathan Drake is the most predictable and also the most boring character(Ok, maybe not as much as killzone guy) to be in the game.

I enjoyed Smash Bros but I was not really into the Nintendo characters. This game is more up my alley.

I bet the Big Daddy's super is a golf club. Heh heh.

I assume the character model they're using is the Bouncer Big Daddy and not the Rosie or other design. It would be cool if they let you toggle that stuff.

I don't give a flying fuck which company Big Daddy is from, I think it's a cool addition and will make the roster more varied. Hell, add Batman to this this game, that would be bad ass.

Why are people so upset that a third party character appears in this game? Does this mess with the lore of the game or something? This game is just supposed to be fun nothing more nothing less.

As far as I am concerned put Ezio, John Marston and Sheppard in there. Its better than having some obscure characters from JRPGS no one cares about. It would also be a nice way to have every iconic character of this generation, which is coming to an end, in one game.

@Hailinel said:

@hoossy said:

@Hailinel said:

Wait, a Big Daddy? From Bioshock?

Really? They're putting a multi-platform character with no specific ties to the PlayStation brand or Sony in general in the game?

They put Solid Snake in Smash brothers..

Solid Snake was in a game co-developed by Nintendo.

Ken Levine announced during Sony's 2011 E3 press conference that a BioShock game would be developed for PlayStation Vita, stating that it will be an original project for the handheld system.

During Sony's E3 press conference on June 6, 2011 creative director Ken Levine announced on-stage that BioShock Infinite will support the PlayStation Move.

I think Sony should just go nuts and put every character they can in there 3rd party or not I mean the mascot fighter thing is never gonna happen because no one else does it other than Nintendo so what if you didn't grow up with Nintendo or don't care for those characters? All-Stars Battle Royale is the first time you'll see characters that you actually care about in a silly fighting game any other character they add is a plus in my book.