New DLC: Zeus and Isaac Clarke (plus new stage)

#1 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

Zeus from God of War, Isaac Clarke from Dead Space and a new stage featuring MediEvil and The Unfinished Swan are coming as DLC for PlayStation All-Stars.

I thought Kat and Emmett might be the last first and last DLC characters released given the SuperBot trouble, but I guess not.

I don't really like playing this, but it's obvious when you look at the video that they put a lot of thought into the creation of their characters. Isaac's level 3, for example, is crazy.

IGN article

#2 Posted by Demoskinos (14519 posts) -

Okay,this could be real neat if Sony keeps pumping out chars like this. Interested to see how Isaac plays. Also, dammit get Ryu Hayabusa! Kratos vs Dante vs Ryu would be awesome. :-P

#3 Edited by Hailinel (23680 posts) -

Isaac Clarke? Another third-party character with no special PlayStation ties? Really?

#4 Posted by BisonHero (6051 posts) -

Ah yes, that classic character from a Playstation franchise, Isaac Clarke. Who could forget.

#5 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@hailinel: @bisonhero: It should be obvious to you guys by now that a major focus for the roster and backgrounds was to use them as a promotional tool for upcoming games.

#6 Edited by BisonHero (6051 posts) -

@fluxwavez: Yeah, it is obvious, but I guess I still feel like giving them a hard time about it. Somehow Nintendo preying upon people's nostalgia doesn't seem nearly as crass as PASBR flagrantly promoting current and upcoming multiplatform games whose characters are not even close to beloved.

#7 Posted by IrrelevantJohn (1018 posts) -

At least they have some decent characters so far like Kat and Issac. I don't think anyone really cares for Emmett or Zeus.

#8 Posted by awesomeusername (4153 posts) -

@fluxwavez: I thought Kat and Emmett might be the last first and last DLC characters released given the SuperBot trouble, but I guess not.

Sony has said that Sony Santa Monica will be handling all future DLC of the title so we can expect a lot more DLC incoming.

#9 Posted by D_Bones (365 posts) -

I downloaded Kat and Emmett but haven't popped the game back in to try them out. I enjoyed the game for the time I played it but it would take some really interesting characters or some of my faves to make me jump back in wholeheartedly (Kiryu anybody??).

#10 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@awesomeusername said:

@fluxwavez: I thought Kat and Emmett might be the last first and last DLC characters released given the SuperBot trouble, but I guess not.

Sony has said that Sony Santa Monica will be handling all future DLC of the title so we can expect a lot more DLC incoming.

I know, I posted a thread about it. Doesn't mean that I was still expecting a stream of upcoming DLC.

#11 Posted by awesomeusername (4153 posts) -

@awesomeusername said:

@fluxwavez: I thought Kat and Emmett might be the last first and last DLC characters released given the SuperBot trouble, but I guess not.

Sony has said that Sony Santa Monica will be handling all future DLC of the title so we can expect a lot more DLC incoming.

I know, I posted a thread about it. Doesn't mean that I was still expecting a stream of upcoming DLC.

Well of course they'll keep DLC coming. I'm sure it sold enough to make a profit off making & selling DLC.

#12 Edited by DarkShaper (1319 posts) -

I still play All-Stars whenever I have friends around so I'm pumped for more DLC.

#13 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@awesomeusername said:

Well of course they'll keep DLC coming. I'm sure it sold enough to make a profit off making & selling DLC.

It sold like crap in Japan and it didn't sell well anywhere else either, which is why did Sony ended their relationship with SuperBot. Even if Santa Monica was said to plan further DLC, I wasn't expecting it because I didn't think the game was worth continued support. Obviously, they're at least going to bring out two more characters and a stage, so I guess it'll be interesting to see if they do some more afterwards.

#14 Edited by Morbid_Coffee (954 posts) -

I'm glad Sony is digging deep into their library of memorable characters and pulling out a greek god and dead space guy.

I'll give Sony an idea for the next DLC for free: Blasto and Croc.

#15 Edited by MildMolasses (3211 posts) -

@hailinel: @bisonhero: It should be obvious to you guys by now that a major focus for the roster and backgrounds was to use them as a promotional tool for upcoming games.

I don't think that means that people still can't be critical about it. They finally made the game that Sony fans had been dreaming of, and instead of making it the fan service it should have been, it became an advertising tool.

#16 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19305 posts) -

@mildmolasses: I guess, but at some point I think people need to let go. Then again, I tend to mention my frustration that it wasn't a better game a lot of the times the subject of PSAS comes up, so I guess that's hypocritical of me.

#17 Posted by Phatmac (5720 posts) -

Isaac Clarke is my favorite Sony character.

#18 Posted by Yummylee (21205 posts) -

Nice, Isaac Clarke and another God of War character... I guess there's some slight relation between Dead Space and PlayStation since Dead Space 2's Limited Edition was packaged with Dead Space: Extraction for the PS3. But besides that it's kinda shitty that they're still pulling in even more third-party characters when one of the many criticisms levied at All-Stars was the lack of PlayStation fanservice.

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#20 Posted by joshthebear (2700 posts) -

Isaac Clarke doesn't really fit the whole "Playstation All-Star", but then again neither does half of the roster.

#21 Posted by awesomeusername (4153 posts) -

@fluxwavez: I would like to point out that the article says the title is selling as Sony expected. Maybe the budget was small for the title so even if it's selling like shit, they probably made their money back. No one can know for sure though.

#22 Posted by DarthOrange (3813 posts) -

I'm bummed at their choice of characters but they look great and seem to play pretty differently from anyone on the roster. As othere have said, there are plenty of recognizable PlayStation people they could get from third parties, like Lightning, Aya Brea and Barry Burton. Seth mentioned that they wanted another heavy character like Big Daddy, but why get another God of War character? Why not think outside the box and make Papo from Papo y Yo a character? There is also no one from Heavy Rain and Resistance, and those two were some of Sony's biggest exclusives this gen. I really hope they give this game another chance and make a sequel in house with Sony Santa Monica focusing all their effort on this game instead of giving it to another B-Team who doesn't give the first shit about PlayStation.

#23 Posted by Hailinel (23680 posts) -

I'm bummed at their choice of characters but they look great and seem to play pretty differently from anyone on the roster. As othere have said, there are plenty of recognizable PlayStation people they could get from third parties, like Lightning, Aya Brea and Barry Burton. Seth mentioned that they wanted another heavy character like Big Daddy, but why get another God of War character? Why not think outside the box and make Papo from Papo y Yo a character? There is also no one from Heavy Rain and Resistance, and those two were some of Sony's biggest exclusives this gen. I really hope they give this game another chance and make a sequel in house with Sony Santa Monica focusing all their effort on this game instead of giving it to another B-Team who doesn't give the first shit about PlayStation.

The key thing to remember is that SuperBot wasn't meant to be a B-team. They were a studio established by Sony specifically for the purpose of making this game. SuperBot had every reason to fill it with Sony-owned characters and franchises, or at least more well-regarded third-parties known primarily for the PlayStation brand. However, they completely dropped the ball in that regard, settling for a lackluster roster while the game itself is exactly what some feared it would be; another Smash Bros. clone that doesn't do enough of what Smash does well, and the new things it did try weren't good enough. It's a mediocre game that suffers from lack of imagination and ambition.

@hailinel: @bisonhero: It should be obvious to you guys by now that a major focus for the roster and backgrounds was to use them as a promotional tool for upcoming games.

As Bisonhero said that doesn't really negate our criticism.

#24 Posted by Enigma777 (6057 posts) -

This game really needs to hit $30 so I can buy it already!

#25 Edited by DarthOrange (3813 posts) -

@hailinel said:

@darthorange said:

I'm bummed at their choice of characters but they look great and seem to play pretty differently from anyone on the roster. As othere have said, there are plenty of recognizable PlayStation people they could get from third parties, like Lightning, Aya Brea and Barry Burton. Seth mentioned that they wanted another heavy character like Big Daddy, but why get another God of War character? Why not think outside the box and make Papo from Papo y Yo a character? There is also no one from Heavy Rain and Resistance, and those two were some of Sony's biggest exclusives this gen. I really hope they give this game another chance and make a sequel in house with Sony Santa Monica focusing all their effort on this game instead of giving it to another B-Team who doesn't give the first shit about PlayStation.

The key thing to remember is that SuperBot wasn't meant to be a B-team. They were a studio established by Sony specifically for the purpose of making this game. SuperBot had every reason to fill it with Sony-owned characters and franchises, or at least more well-regarded third-parties known primarily for the PlayStation brand. However, they completely dropped the ball in that regard, settling for a lackluster roster while the game itself is exactly what some feared it would be; another Smash Bros. clone that doesn't do enough of what Smash does well, and the new things it did try weren't good enough. It's a mediocre game that suffers from lack of imagination and ambition.

While I disagree with the game being mediocre (I think the gameplay is fantastic) everything else you said is spot on. It was always embarrassing to see them do interviews and get so many basic PlayStation questions flat out wrong, like when Omar Kendall stated that Drake's level 3 was pulled from Uncharted 2, or when at a fighting game tournament they asked Clockwork what game the Chimera monster in the Time Station level was from and he said Killzone. Shit like that really pissed me off and showed that they had the wrong people making this game. They should have had at least one die hard PlayStation guy (fuck they had him and then decided to fire him) to oversee the project and tell them the characters they should include and little winks and nods to put in for the die hard Sony fans. Hell I said it months ago that the wrong people were making this game. I really hope this game is given a second chance with a developer that actually gives a shit.

#26 Posted by AlecOfTheWest (275 posts) -

Jesus, they're really reaching for characters now. Still, I suppose Isaac Clarke is still more sensible than a Big Daddy from the once xbox exclusive Bioshock.

#27 Posted by TechHits (1365 posts) -

Really... Zeus?

I love this game but Zeus is not really an inspired choice.

#29 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -

- Bad Smash Bros clone check

- Includes bad characters from the PlayStation history instead of good ones check

- Uses third party characters and in Dante's case the new version of him which was never PlayStation exclusive, check

What a crock of shit.

#30 Posted by Colourful_Hippie (4328 posts) -

Isaac? lol

#31 Posted by TheHT (10804 posts) -

5 bucks per character is a bit steep. i haven't even used all the characters yet.

i really wish they would reach back more with the DLC characters. i never minded only 1/3rd of the roster being older ps characters and each gen of the playstation having more or less equal representation. but with zeus and isaac it's getting hard to ignore the whole "well that games are new that we can tie in to this game? another god of war and dead space game? perfect". give me some tomba or something.

i suppose isaac has some loose connection with sony but really only on a "some dudes in suits signed a contract and dead space 2 got extra shit on the ps3", which is not at all an endearing connection to be thinking of when looking at the game. but then again i wouldn't be thinking about much else besidest fighting when actually playing. zeus looks like he could be fun to play as. kat played great and starhawk guy was at least interesting, so it's nice to see they're giving some thought to these characters gameplay wise and not just rehashing old characters with a new model.

@sooty said:

- Bad Smash Bros clone check

it's really not a smash clone.

#32 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (2955 posts) -

So any official date when this is out?

#33 Edited by Snail (8574 posts) -

Isaac? lol

I suppose it makes as much sense as Big Daddy being in that game.

#34 Edited by I_Stay_Puft (2955 posts) -

Looks like they're coming out this week and pricing has been released. The two characters are going to be $4.99 each while the new stage is $1.99. All I can say is F'in RIP OFF I can understand $4.99 for both but each? Really? Gah...

#35 Edited by DarthOrange (3813 posts) -

Looks like pricing has been released, The two characters are going to be $4.99 each while the new stage is $1.99. All I can say is F'in RIP OFF I can understand $4.99 for both but each? Really? Gah...

Yea, they really are way too expensive. Have you seen how much they are charging for costumes? It is equally gross.

I got the characters for free with the voucher that came with God of War though so that is pretty neat.

#36 Edited by I_Stay_Puft (2955 posts) -

@darthorange said:

@i_stay_puft said:

Looks like pricing has been released, The two characters are going to be $4.99 each while the new stage is $1.99. All I can say is F'in RIP OFF I can understand $4.99 for both but each? Really? Gah...

Yea, they really are way too expensive. Have you seen how much they are charging for costumes? It is equally gross.

I got the characters for free with the voucher that came with God of War though so that is pretty neat.

Saw something about that, was that with all GOW Ascensions or special promotion with a retail store?

- Just thought of something, to buy Isaac Clarke as a character in this game is the same exact price as Dead Space 1 or 2 full game on pc when it goes on sale on steam or Amazon.

#37 Posted by DarthOrange (3813 posts) -

@i_stay_puft: It only came with the collector edition. It was only $20 bucks more then the standard edition and came with the All-Star characters, the game soundtrack, the season pass for all future God of War DLC and an awkward looking Kratos statue. I figured "why not?"

#38 Edited by I_Stay_Puft (2955 posts) -

Played a little bit of Isaac Clarke story mode and online and I must say by far he's probably my least favorite character. Guy is slow and slumbering kinda like the Big Daddy character, which puts him at a major disadvantage at some of the more quicker combo based characters like Dante, Kratos and Raiden. I think he probably has the same power for his combo moves but his power ups feel weak. His level 1 seems pretty weak since I've probably only been able to land one multi kill with it. Pretty much you stasis the opponent and are given a finite amount of time to fire a second shot to kill them, if lucky you can get multiple kills with one hit if the other opposing player is close to or near the stasis character your blowing up. Level 2 and 3 were alright for what they were but that level 1 seems rather week compared to a Fat Princess who has an easy chance for 3 kills on a level 1. From my perspective Isaac wasn't worth the 5 bucks unless you're a die hard for the game.

#39 Edited by cbarnes86 (542 posts) -

@enigma777: You're in luck, the game is gonna be a lot cheaper this week!

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