...dude, a real hacker could've just put that there for fun.

" ...dude, a real hacker could've just put that there for fun. "

Is it bad that I don't believe Sony anymore? :P

" @KaosAngel said:

" ...dude, a real hacker could've just put that there for fun. "

This. They're the best scapegoat in the world because of all the DDOS bullshit they were doing. Just put a little text file on the server while you're there, and bam - they aren't looking for you, they're looking for them. "

" Is it bad that I don't believe Sony anymore? :P "

" @KaosAngel said:

" ...dude, a real hacker could've just put that there for fun. "

This. They're the best scapegoat in the world because of all the DDOS bullshit they were doing. Just put a little text file on the server while you're there, and bam - they aren't looking for you, they're looking for them. "

Of course they did.  How can they even say that they didn't?  They're anonymous.

Unless each one of them is going to come out and publicly say, "My name is ____________ I am a member of Anonymous, and I did not take part in hacking PSN", then they are all to blame.  Even still I wouldn't believe them, but at least the feds could go back and look through their hard drives and such and search for any evidence. My point is they are guilty by association.

Anon isn't sophisticated enough to do something like this. The only "hacking" that Anon has done is DDoSing, which is rudimentary compared to the PSN hack. 

" Is it bad that I don't believe Sony anymore? :P "

It's a setup. I would frame anonymous if I pulled off something major like this.

• Sony called to Congress to answer questions of how this situation happened.
• Sony sends letter instead saying they are too busy researching hack  - whole company ensconced in research.
• Sony distracts with finger pointing at Anonymous.

" Is it bad that I don't believe Sony anymore? :P "

SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT !!

People realize that Anon isn't actually a body you can point at, right? It's just as good as saying random people from the internet did it.

" SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT !! "

" People realize that Anon isn't actually a body you can point at, right? It's just as good as saying random people from the internet did it. "

Here is the letter to committee from sony, makes an interesting read.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/5686965323/in/set-72157626521862165/
 
In their own words

Sony has been the victim of a very carefully planned, very professional, highly sophisticated criminal cyber attack.

" @Ahmad_Metallic said:

" SIMPSONS DID IT SIMPSONS DID IT !! "

Oh you and your South Park references <3 "

" @Slaker117 said:

" People realize that Anon isn't actually a body you can point at, right? It's just as good as saying random people from the internet did it. "

Are you telling me where all in anonnymous? "

" Sony has been the victim of their own ineptitude. "

" People realize that Anon isn't actually a body you can point at, right? It's just as good as saying random people from the internet did it. "

 What does Anon gain from doing this? This type of attack (towards millions of consumers) is not their cup of tea. Their beef was over once the GeoHotz issue was resolved. I just don't get Anons point of view with this attack.  This is not their MO.

Don't they normally go public and brag about their attacks?  They have been awfully quiet.

For the people defending Anon, you do know they are all troll jerks right? Also what if they did do it and are only denying it because everyone hates them for it?

" For the people defending Anon, you do know they are all troll jerks right? Also what if they did do it and are only denying it because everyone hates them for it? "

I think anon did it but are making it look like they have been setup.  lol

" Here is the letter to committee from sony, makes an interesting read.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/playstationblog/5686965323/in/set-72157626521862165/  In their own wordsSony has been the victim of a very carefully planned, very professional, highly sophisticated criminal cyber attack. "

At this point, I don't care who did it. I just want PSN back.

" @HrMagni said:

" Sony has been the victim of their own ineptitude. "

"

4Chan isn't exactly a bastion for all that's good, but this doesn't seem like something they'd be into. It's not exactly easy for me to say they operate with a code of ethics but they've shown more interest in protecting everyday people, not taking advantage of them. It'd be a PERFECT solution to throw around words like "Anonymous" and "We Are Legion" and have no one question it's validity whatsoever, an easy out if you will. Sony looks like a little kid pushed into a puddle instead of the irresponsible company we saw them as yesterday. So really, it would be in their best interest to say this even if it weren't true. This kind of thing happens all the time in the name of swaying public opinion and perception back to something akin to a positive light. It's fairly transparent, actually.

"

He totally did it.
"

" @Daveyo520 said:

" For the people defending Anon, you do know they are all troll jerks right? Also what if they did do it and are only denying it because everyone hates them for it? "

Who's defending? "

I've always been under the impression that Anon didn't really have the capability to do anything more than shitty temporary ddos attacks- maybe I was wrong (or maybe not- who knows?)

That is absolute and utter bullshit.

" Is it bad that I don't believe Sony anymore? :P "

My best guess is that It probably was a sub group of individuals who originated from Anonymous, but the group itself wouldn't take it to the next level, so they decided to take matters into their own hands.  

I like how so many people are referring to Anonymous as an entity, rather than a random array of morons and criminals. "We know they did it! They left their trademark calling-card: Indistinguishable 4chan phrases".

That should narrow it down a little.

@Turbo_Toaster said:

" 4Chan isn't exactly a bastion for all that's good, but this doesn't seem like something they'd be into. It's not exactly easy for me to say they operate with a code of ethics but they've shown more interest in protecting everyday people, not taking advantage of them. It'd be a PERFECT solution to throw around words like "Anonymous" and "We Are Legion" and have no one question it's validity whatsoever, an easy out if you will. Sony looks like a little kid pushed into a puddle instead of the irresponsible company we saw them as yesterday. So really, it would be in their best interest to say this even if it weren't true. This kind of thing happens all the time in the name of swaying public opinion and perception back to something akin to a positive light. It's fairly transparent, actually. "

I can't help but think they're just dropping the name on there so the media outlets have something to latch onto.

Now instead of hearing:  SONY'S network was hacked

People will hear:  Sony's Network was hacked by a group calling themselves ANONYMOUS.

" I like how so many people are referring to Anonymous as an entity, rather than a random array of morons and criminals. "We know they did it! They left their trademark calling-card: Indistinguishable 4chan phrases".

That should narrow it down a little.

@Turbo_Toaster said:

" 4Chan isn't exactly a bastion for all that's good, but this doesn't seem like something they'd be into. It's not exactly easy for me to say they operate with a code of ethics but they've shown more interest in protecting everyday people, not taking advantage of them. It'd be a PERFECT solution to throw around words like "Anonymous" and "We Are Legion" and have no one question it's validity whatsoever, an easy out if you will. Sony looks like a little kid pushed into a puddle instead of the irresponsible company we saw them as yesterday. So really, it would be in their best interest to say this even if it weren't true. This kind of thing happens all the time in the name of swaying public opinion and perception back to something akin to a positive light. It's fairly transparent, actually. "

The thing about 4Chan is that thousands of people go there, and none of them are bound by any particulars. It's not like a Church where you might say "surely a religious person wouldn't commit X terrible act". A user of 4Chan, someone who refers to themselves as Anonymous,  the rest of the internet at large can literally be any kind of person, so placing any kind of blame on these nebulous collections of folk seems pretty meaningless to me. "

" @Tebbit said:

" I like how so many people are referring to Anonymous as an entity, rather than a random array of morons and criminals. "We know they did it! They left their trademark calling-card: Indistinguishable 4chan phrases".

That should narrow it down a little.

@Turbo_Toaster said:

" 4Chan isn't exactly a bastion for all that's good, but this doesn't seem like something they'd be into. It's not exactly easy for me to say they operate with a code of ethics but they've shown more interest in protecting everyday people, not taking advantage of them. It'd be a PERFECT solution to throw around words like "Anonymous" and "We Are Legion" and have no one question it's validity whatsoever, an easy out if you will. Sony looks like a little kid pushed into a puddle instead of the irresponsible company we saw them as yesterday. So really, it would be in their best interest to say this even if it weren't true. This kind of thing happens all the time in the name of swaying public opinion and perception back to something akin to a positive light. It's fairly transparent, actually. "

The thing about 4Chan is that thousands of people go there, and none of them are bound by any particulars. It's not like a Church where you might say "surely a religious person wouldn't commit X terrible act". A user of 4Chan, someone who refers to themselves as Anonymous,  the rest of the internet at large can literally be any kind of person, so placing any kind of blame on these nebulous collections of folk seems pretty meaningless to me. "

I wish more people understood this. "

What would a hacker really gain from framing Anonymous? Get 4chan shut down? It's not like the blame can actually be placed on anyone.