Hey guys. Today I was listening to last week's Kotaku's podcast and they were talking about whether or not it's a good idea to have porn distrubeted on the PSN or XBLA. They also revealed that the Japanese PSN has porn available for download already and they justify it vecause the Japanese, which we all know by now, pixilate the genetelia.
Personally I think that it'll be stupid if they allow it to be downloaded here in the US. Think about it, politicians and a lot of other people try to ban games that are rated M because they either have too much violence or too much crude language. Also, when it comes to games like GTA, idiots like Jack Thompson, try their hardest, to no avail, to ban the damn game for stupid reasons like cop killing. Do I even have to elaborate on the Hot Coffee Mod?
So imagine if they do bring porn to the PSN or XBLA, people like Jack will take advantage and bring both companies to court with a whole mess of lawsuits. And god knows that they might actually win and we can say hello to even more stricter censorship across the gaming industry. Besides, if you think about it you already have porn via the PS3's browser and the Opera browser on the Wii.
What do you guys think? Should porn be made available for console's download services?
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Hey guys. Today I was listening to last week's Kotaku's podcast and they were talking about whether or not it's a good idea to have porn distrubeted on the PSN or XBLA. They also revealed that the Japanese PSN has porn available for download already and they justify it vecause the Japanese, which we all know by now, pixilate the genetelia.
Personally I think that it'll be stupid if they allow it to be downloaded here in the US. Think about it, politicians and a lot of other people try to ban games that are rated M because they either have too much violence or too much crude language. Also, when it comes to games like GTA, idiots like Jack Thompson, try their hardest, to no avail, to ban the damn game for stupid reasons like cop killing. Do I even have to elaborate on the Hot Coffee Mod?
So imagine if they do bring porn to the PSN or XBLA, people like Jack will take advantage and bring both companies to court with a whole mess of lawsuits. And god knows that they might actually win and we can say hello to even more stricter censorship across the gaming industry. Besides, if you think about it you already have porn via the PS3's browser and the Opera browser on the Wii.
What do you guys think? Should porn be made available for console's download services?
Most Japanese have naturally pixlated genitalia."they justify it vecause the Japanese, which we all know by now, pixilate the genetelia. "
From a business point of view it's good for the company developing the material. But it just doesn't feel right to have any material on a console that's pornographic in any way. They were made for games last time I checked.
Is it really necessary to have porn available for download on PSN or XBLA? Really? It's not enough that you can buy it in a shop or download it from the internet in other ways? We really need another option when it comes to getting our sweaty flesh fix? Maybe it's like those people who watch so much porn, they have to keep watching stuff that gets increasingly bizarre just to get off. Maybe they're tired of getting porn the normal way, and only this kinky console-related method will truly get them jazzed.
NOTE: The title of this thread is to be sung to the tune of 'Born in the USA'.
" Hey guys. Today I was listening to last week's Kotaku's podcast and they were talking about whether or not it's a good idea to have porn distrubeted on the PSN or XBLA. They also revealed that the Japanese PSN has porn available for download already and they justify it vecause the Japanese, which we all know by now, pixilate the genetelia. Personally I think that it'll be stupid if they allow it to be downloaded here in the US. Think about it, politicians and a lot of other people try to ban games that are rated M because they either have too much violence or too much crude language. Also, when it comes to games like GTA, idiots like Jack Thompson, try their hardest, to no avail, to ban the damn game for stupid reasons like cop killing. Do I even have to elaborate on the Hot Coffee Mod? So imagine if they do bring porn to the PSN or XBLA, people like Jack will take advantage and bring both companies to court with a whole mess of lawsuits. And god knows that they might actually win and we can say hello to even more stricter censorship across the gaming industry. Besides, if you think about it you already have porn via the PS3's browser and the Opera browser on the Wii. What do you guys think? Should porn be made available for console's download services? "As long as there is a clearly spelled out terms of service use whereby, as the person purchasing the content, you are the credit card owner, over the age of 18, or have the consent of the cardholder to make the purchase and the both of you are over the age of 18, there wouldn't be an issue I don't think.
Otherwise you violate the terms of service and they would prevent you from making any future purchases, and any other legal garbage they could throw at you.
I'm not necessarily advocating the initiative, im just saying these game companies (like Sony and MS) are fucking massive, with huge legal teams. They would be able to make it work only IF they honestly think they could get away with it, and make shitloads of money.
The biggest question mark I have on this issue is the fact that most parents don't have a problem with little 10 year old Jimmy playing Gears 2 and sawing people in half. But they do have a problem with pornographic videos being made available on the PS3/360 to those who hold a credit card. I mean lets face it, little Jimmy at the age of 10 has prolly already seen some type of pornographic material anyways, and I'm sure someday he will also see a naked lady in real life.
However, I will say this, I can understand why parents don't want their young kids to see pornographic material. While I agree with little Jimmy not watching hard core pornos, I don't understand why at the age of 10, seeing a boob or two has to be treated like he's being stabbed in the eyes. And again, if this stuff came to the PS3/360, you would not be able to access any of it without a credit card, and I know little Jimmy doesn't have a credit card.
And as for the stuff about political interest and lawsuits, none of that matters. As long as they make it so you can only access it with a credit card, and include parental controls, they will be fine.
@SoothsayerGB said:
" Why would I download porn on my PS3? When I can just stream it for free, with the web browser? "
HD porn on your 52" Sony Bravia. "The way it's meant to be seen" - senile_kyle
" dude there has been porn on xbox live for years now. Its called "uno" "Yep. I can confirm this.
you can already watch porn by downloading them from your computer of downloading using their browser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Witch_Trials
Porn will be here no matter what media player or system its on. And I'm sure people with find a way to put it on the psn just like they've figured out how to put it on other shit.
Why would you want porn on your PS3 or 360. Apart from the novelty of seeing it there which will wear off pretty quickly why not just watch it on the PC or video if you're oldschool.
And I won't accept the HD argument. It's not nice seeing some hot girl getting banged in the shooter with specs of shit everywhere.
Sorry, I just disgusted myself.
" @Senile_Kyle:I think I understand what you're getting at, but this isn't accusing women of being witches and killing them. It's just porn.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Witch_Trials "
While I agree it's a bad idea for image issues, if you had to put in credit card info every time you tried to get some porn, it might become too bothersome for kids to download it.
" @SolemnOaf said:" @Senile_Kyle:I think I understand what you're getting at, but this isn't accusing women of being witches and killing them. It's just porn. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Witch_Trials "
You were wondering how it came to be that America had such a strange sense of morality where violence is acceptable but sexuality/nudity not. America has a history of taking a single localized event and making it a catalyst for a nation-wide shift of consciousness and identity. I've thought about this extensively, and America developed much of its disfigured sense of morality from the early colonial witch-trials. I'm almost sure of it.
" I like how the original poster just assumed everyone here has seen Japanese porn. "And a smart assumption it is, I should say.
" @slayerofheroes said:Why hasn't Biff been mentioned as GiantBomb president already? seriously, this guy is fucking balls.Most Japanese have naturally pixlated genitalia. ""they justify it vecause the Japanese, which we all know by now, pixilate the genetelia. "
I don't see why, as a consumer, it shouldn't be made available...
you can get movies for download on your console already, why not ones of a pornographic nature...
and don't even get me started on pornographic games...
as long as it's sectioned off, I don't mind one bit
" porn on PSN or XBLA? hell no. like you said, the politicians will be all over it. plus, you can find free porn on the interwebs. "Ayane...on a steamy bed...chocolate between her teeth and drizzled across her waist...with Kasumi...licking each other erotically...waiting...for a man who would appreciate them...someone like you...would you resist it?
Also, no. Why the hell would anybody want porn on their PSN and XBLA when it is well known that the primary audience for consoles are horny 13 year olds who wank at anything with a hole in them? Must we make them MORE retarded?
(I come under this category, but even so...)
Boy: Dad! Can I buy Final Fantasy VII?
Dad: Sure! It's Christmas!
Boy: He he he...I'll be getting more than presents today...
(Five minutes later Boy is getting whipped for getting cum stains all over Mums blouse)
I am not joking when i say i saw a porn UMD for sale in HMV about 2 years ago. I didn't think anything about it then. There was only one of them there.
But i don't know if porn on download services would be a good thing. I mean, you have your PC or Laptop for that in your own time, and consoles should be used mainly for gaming. Of course that's just my thoughts.
You do know that Jack Thompson was disbarred a few years ago, right? He's not saying anything.
its o.k. in my book it just needs some kind of parental controls. I hate censorship and don't really care what Jack Thompson thinks either. Oh and Hillary Clinton can go screw herself... If the porn was easy to get it might keep Bill from cheating on her!!!! The corrupt government should not be allowed to censor are choices and freedom!!!!!
There is, of course, the argument that adults should have access to adult material. If I want porn on my console, I don't see how the bitching of soccer moms or religious prudes enters into it. That aside, though, I also think that console pornography could actually help the public perception of gaming and ease absurd restrictions. In the US, gaming is still viewed largely as a children's pastime. A large portion of the reactionary stupidity stems from semi-adult material in a "children's" medium. In many of the games with this light adult material, there is still a fair amount of content that is fun and accessible to kids. The core mechanics of these games have no age barrier. As such, many view controversial games as if they're putting adult material in a format that is more enticing to children. Having explicitly adult material would significantly reduce this perception. It would make it clear that gaming consoles are neither a children's toy nor an adult device. In essence, it could bring our society closer to viewing them as we view DVD players. During the VHS boom (which was built on pornography), many complained about allowing adults to have pornographic videos in their homes. Eventually, however, people realized that the VCP was simply a tool, and that it was a parent's responsibility to govern their children's use of it. The same went for the internet. Getting there with consoles would benefit everyone.
I think it might also pave the way for pornographic games, which would also be great for everyone. If adult movies were popular (which would be likely), then the companies behind the consoles would see revenue potential in relaxing their content regulation. I see no valid excuse for the blanket policies against AO games that we currently see. The profit available from pornographic games could provide an incentive for deregulation of content, which in turn would provide far greater artistic freedom for developers. If AO were not the death rating it currently is, developers would not have to fear sex and violence in games as they now do. Pornography always allows for more freedom in non-pornography. As often as people bitch about a double standard in our tolerance for violence (the most piss-poor argument I've heard), there are current limits to violence in games. Getting rid of these limits would be a good thing. If you don't want to play an ultra-violent game, then don't. As it now stands, those of us who do are shit out of luck. We have to be limited by the bitching of prudes, and this is unacceptable.
Nudity and sex in gaming are completely acceptable to me as well as many others. We're currently in a sophomoric stage insofar as some games feature appropriate sex or nudity but it's still made out to be a big deal. Pornography in gaming would ease this and normalize sex and nudity in a refreshing way. People would stop gasping or snickering at the kind of PG-13 material that we see in games now. Both game makers and gamers have a problem with nudity and sex, which keeps them over-emphasized and distracting. It would be nice if people reacted to sex in a game as they do with sex in a movie. Consider the attention paid to games over a topless woman or a shower scene. A large part of the reason we do not react the same way over seeing something like this on the internet or in a movie is because there's pornography available. Seeing a topless woman online is wholly unremarkable and taken for exactly what it is. Pornography could do the same for consoles. We could see a sex scene in a game without over-reaction because nobody would care.
Fearing sex and nudity on consoles, even to a pornographic extent, reinforces the notion that gaming is for kids. Taking an "anything goes" attitude would stir up some shit at first, but we'd probably be left with more free choice and a far more mature attitude regarding gaming as a whole.
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