You might want to get PlayStation Plus. Now.

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#1 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19331 posts) -

So according to Eurogamer, Sony's planning to revamp PlayStation Plus and this will be revealed during their press conference at E3.

Multiple sources have indicated that part of Sony's E3 press conference, set for Monday 4th June, will be devoted to running through the revamp, which is designed to help convince more people to sign up to the premium subscription service.
One of the ways Sony will do this is by giving subscribers top tier games for free, and implementing proper integration with PS Vita. Plus on Vita will offer Vita exclusive titles and DLC and cloud services that mean you won't have to connect the handheld to a PlayStation 3 or a PC to back up saves and other content.

Also, if an earlier user survey becomes reality, subscription options for PSN+ will be increasing in price:

One possible tier would offer 61 new "A" quality games a year, but with only one PS3 release a week. Sony's suggested price would be a $7.99 (about a fiver) monthly fee, with three-month and yearly price plans also available. Another option offers 80 games a year, mostly "C" and "B" quality, for $10 a month (about £6). Titles would be at least a year old, although 10 full PS3 releases would be offered every week.

But really, the reason that it might be smart to get a subscription to PSN+ before E3 is because of Ross McGrath's (SCEE spokesperson) tweet:

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So I decided to get a 3 month subscription to PSN+ just in case something awesome happens, and I must say that I'm enjoying its offers. Awesomenauts, Rock of Ages and Trine 2 all currently available for me for free (plus a bunch of other free stuff) as well as other free games that will be available in the future? Not bad. True, the completely free products essentially "expire" along with your subscription, but I think it's still a good deal and there are a lot of deals available to PSN+ members, of which won't expire when purchased.

#2 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

Someone who works for Sony says its a good idea to buy a subscription for a Sony service. It's going to take more than that to convince me.

#3 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19331 posts) -

@BraveToaster: Yes, but that combined with the upcoming revamp made me want to take the safer route and just get a 3 month subscription because if something good happens to previous PSN+ members, I don't want to regret it.

#4 Posted by ESREVER (2684 posts) -

PS+ is the shit. I gots so much free stuff I don't even know what to do with. I'm also gaining an impressive PS1 game library now thanks to PS+. I'm excited to see what they're doing with the already awesome service. Someone on their blog was teasing about awesome upcoming features to keep an eye out for! I WANNA KNOW NOW!

#5 Posted by BeachThunder (11861 posts) -
@BraveToaster said:

Someone who works for Sony says its a good idea to buy a subscription for a Sony service. It's going to take more than that to convince me.

How about a forum post from someone with a blue name?
#6 Posted by Goldanas (546 posts) -

Actually, the games you just mentioned that you got for free will remain free for you as long as you keep them on your HDD. Those games are downloaded via demo and then an activation 100kb file. The PS+ DRM only functions on actual full direct downloads, ie no activation download. Once you let your PS+ expire, you'll notice you can still play those games. At least that's how it worked for me. I stacked two trial codes for a month each and got all the free games of Tue past two months, which means I got those for free now since my PS+ ran out. Shift 2 of last month expired, but Shank 2 has no time period on it and I could still load it up.

#7 Posted by skipper00 (61 posts) -

PS + is has been so worth it. I have so much games to get through and I have only been signed up for the past 3 months. Excited to see what is in store.

#8 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19331 posts) -

@BeachThunder said:

How about a forum post from someone with a blue name?

Didn't know people still paid attention to name colors.

@Goldanas: Oh wow, that's even better. So, essentially, if this works out and I get those three games mentioned in my original post for free, my PSN+ sub has already paid for itself.

#9 Posted by NTM (7344 posts) -

No thanks. I don't like the idea of PlayStation Plus really. I love Sony's consoles, and I love playing games on them, but after already paying for Xbox Live, it's just... no thanks. I'm not saying one's better than the other, I just don't want to spend yearly fee's on all of this stuff. My mind may change in the future, but from its inception to now, I wouldn't even think of paying for it.

#10 Posted by Brodehouse (9887 posts) -

I wish I turned my Playstation on more often.

Also people still care about name colors? Really? Mines blue because it looks good on the black field.

#11 Posted by laserbolts (5319 posts) -

Man is it wrong that I get irritated when people say they are getting games for free through ps+ when they are paying for ps+?

#12 Posted by Goldanas (546 posts) -

Yeah, the PS+ has a disclaimer about full games expiring when it's up as you download, but it also has a clause about DOC stating that as long as you have the game, the DLC will remain free for continued use. The activation download is technically seen by the PS3 as DLC for the demo, so once I saw the clause, I checked the information tab on the game files and saw that it didn't contain the PS+ DRM timer like Shift 2. I let my stacked trial run out and loaded up the games and was happy to see I was correct.

#13 Posted by Vestigial_Man (311 posts) -

It is my completely uninformed theory that this might have to do with the streaming/Gaikai deal. It would be a pretty incredible value add if they started letting PS+ users stream PS1 and PS2 games.

#14 Posted by BabyChooChoo (4419 posts) -

For some reason, I thought the price of PSN+ was way more expensive than it actually is lol. meh, I'll bite

#15 Posted by Sackmanjones (4688 posts) -

Playstation plus is actually a pretty fucking awesome service. It truly is worth the price I think so if your on the edge I'd say go for it

#16 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

@BraveToaster: Yes, but that combined with the upcoming revamp made me want to take the safer route and just get a 3 month subscription because if something good happens to previous PSN+ members, I don't want to regret it.

I'm just worried about paying for another subscription and regretting it if the announcement doesn't live up to the hype. I own both a PS3 and 360, but I experience a lot of network disconnections on my PS3. I couldn't even download the games that I got for that server outage last year.

#17 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19331 posts) -

@laserbolts said:

Man is it wrong that I get irritated when people say they are getting games for free through ps+ when they are paying for ps+?

3 month sub = $17.99

Rock of Ages = $9.99

Trine 2 = $14.99

Awesomenauts = $9.99

Total = $34.97

This doesn't even include all of the other free stuff plus the free games that will be available in the future. Not sure why that's irritating.

#18 Posted by Phatmac (5725 posts) -

People that diss PS+ are fucking morons. You get some great deals on good games. Why do people hate good things? If you don't care about it then fine, just don't be a jerk about it. I already have PS+ for this year so I'm pumped to see what Sony has to show.

#19 Posted by markini6 (445 posts) -

Does anyone know how to buy 3 months without going on your PS3? I'm away from it for another week, so can't do it that way. Any way on the Vita or on a PC?

#20 Posted by Goldanas (546 posts) -
@BraveToaster Your free outage games should be tied to your subscriptions under your account settings, at least that's how it was for me.

It's a bummer though that you experience so many disconnects on your PS3. For me it's the other way around, but I know it's just users DCing on me on the 360.

I don't pay for either service though now. I don't see the value. When I get free trial codes I just use those. That feels more justified for certain services that should he free out of the gate.
#21 Posted by Spoonman671 (4604 posts) -

I forgot to turn off auto-renew after my free trial, so I still have an active subscription until the end of July.

#22 Posted by BraveToaster (12590 posts) -

@Goldanas: Yeah, I know that my free games are tied to my account, but I can't stay connected long enough to fully download them. If I didn't have these connection issues, I would be buying more games for my PS3 (for the free online).

#23 Posted by ervonymous (1297 posts) -

I'm interested to see what they do with Plus on the Vita, I don't have a PS3 so it would have to be something pretty neat.. and not screw over European customers. Right now the Youtube app isn't coming to Finland, Norway, Portugal and Greece among other countries, so I'm not exactly expecting much.

#24 Posted by laserbolts (5319 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

@laserbolts said:

Man is it wrong that I get irritated when people say they are getting games for free through ps+ when they are paying for ps+?

3 month sub = $17.99

Rock of Ages = $9.99

Trine 2 = $14.99

Awesomenauts = $9.99

Total = $34.97

This doesn't even include all of the other free stuff plus the free games that will be available in the future. Not sure why that's irritating.

It's not really that irritating but it isn't free. It's a good deal though.

#25 Posted by Fattony12000 (7322 posts) -

TRUST ME

#26 Posted by ESREVER (2684 posts) -

@markini6: I think you can go here: http://us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/ and choose either the 3 month or 12 month download code. I'm guessing they send you the code right away and you can redeem it under your Sony Entertainment Network account. Oh right, you should be able to redeem it on your vita as well.

I think that should work, I never tried it. But its the only solution I can come up with at the moment.

#27 Edited by Lukeweizer (2655 posts) -

PS+ never really interested me because @laserbolts said:

Man is it wrong that I get irritated when people say they are getting games for free through ps+ when they are paying for ps+?

This. I'm sure the free games outweigh the price of the subscription eventually. But it's just hard to totally be on board with it when I still have to pay for something.

And I'm a little confused as to what they're promoting, just the free games they're going to give? Is that all I'm going to get? The PS1 and PS2 stuff would interest me, but I don't feel like paying money (a subscription fee) to get games that I'm not interested in, for free. I'm still paying for them!

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#28 Edited by MetalBaofu (1374 posts) -

@laserbolts: Yeah, sure, they aren't exactly free. I got a year subscription a couple months ago for 50 bucks. Averages out to about 4 bucks a month for whatever they put up. Rock of Ages, Awesomenauts, and Trine 2 for $4? That's close enough to be called free to me. I'm only 2 or 3 months into my year subscription, and the games I have downloaded and played are already worth more than the 50 dollars I paid.

Shank 2, Trine 2, Rock of Ages, Awesomenauts, Comix Zone, Altered Beast, etc.

Now for someone that doesn't care about PSN downloadable games, I can see it not being worth it, but for me it has absolutely been worth it.

#29 Edited by xenexprime (77 posts) -

I barely play consoles anymore, but my sister does so I renewed a coupled of days ago after being inactive for 2 months. the service in my opinion is worth it. almost all the games I downloaded for free on the 1 year membership I had paid before it expired still fully worked. so for the price to get all those games is very much worth it.

#30 Posted by GunslingerPanda (4714 posts) -

@BeachThunder said:

@BraveToaster said:

Someone who works for Sony says its a good idea to buy a subscription for a Sony service. It's going to take more than that to convince me.

How about a forum post from someone with a blue name?

Sold! Signing up right now.

#31 Posted by Klei (1768 posts) -

I would totally get PSN+ if Sony's payment system wasn't such a fucking dud. Since its launch, they REFUSE my credit card, saying it doesn't match my credit information or whatever. Hundreds of people are stuck like me, unable to do shit. Yes, it still pisses me off. I can't get anything on the PSN store unless I purchase a card.

#32 Posted by laserbolts (5319 posts) -

@MetalBaofu said:

@laserbolts: Yeah, sure, they aren't exactly free. I got a year subscription a couple months ago for 50 bucks. Averages out to about 4 bucks a month for whatever they put up. Rock of Ages, Awesomenauts, and Trine 2 for $4? That's close enough to be called free to me. I'm only 2 or 3 months into my year subscription, and the games I have downloaded and played are already worth more than the 50 dollars I paid.

Shank 2, Trine 2, Rock of Ages, Awesomenauts, Comix Zone, Altered Beast, etc.

Now for someone that doesn't care about PSN downloadable games, I can see it not being worth it, but for me it has absolutely been worth it.

Oh I agree i'm not dismissing the value of ps+ since it seems like a great deal. Even though the only game you mentioned that I would like to play is Trine 2.

#33 Posted by demonknightinuyasha (464 posts) -

I ended up getting the 3 month sub because I needed to use the cloud saves to back up protected saves from a dieing console. Ended up buying another year after that was up XD

#34 Posted by MB (12286 posts) -

You guys all keep saying "Free games"...but they aren't really free, are they? Don't all of these games expire once you stop paying for the service, or do you get to actually keep some of these games forever? If not, a better term would be "free rental" or something like that.

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#35 Posted by Jazzycola (662 posts) -

I've had a a month PS+ card sitting on my shelf for about 8 months now. I got it when I bought my second PS3 on Black Friday and I'll probably never use it. I also never used the trial on either of my accounts nor the free 30 days from the "Welcome Back" package after the PSN outage.

#36 Posted by HarlequinRiot (1098 posts) -

@BraveToaster: I have the same problem on the PS3. Games either download super slow or will just stop halfway through. It makes a pain to get not just games/demos, but system updates so I can actually use the thing. I have no idea why it happens, since everything else on my network works fine and gets good speeds. Like you said, it's a reason I will probably not get PS+ even though it sounds awesome.

#37 Posted by rjayb89 (7720 posts) -

I had about a full year of this plus the three months for PSN being down for security issues. I can only remember playing one game to completion with that subscription, and that was Stacking. I have a few Final Fantasy games downloaded for free from it, but I can't play older games anymore. Sure, the cloud saves were cool, but now I have a new PS3 and the older one is just a media server now since it broke on me once. I'll renew my subscription just this once, but I'm not gonna be happy about it unless I get free BJs from Missy Stone or something.

#38 Posted by SomeDeliCook (2296 posts) -

@FluxWaveZ said:

@laserbolts said:

Man is it wrong that I get irritated when people say they are getting games for free through ps+ when they are paying for ps+?

3 month sub = $17.99

Rock of Ages = $9.99

Trine 2 = $14.99

Awesomenauts = $9.99

Total = $34.97

This doesn't even include all of the other free stuff plus the free games that will be available in the future. Not sure why that's irritating.

And after that 3 month subscription you lose those free games unless you renew.

#39 Posted by Twinsun (472 posts) -

@MB said:

You guys all keep saying "Free games"...but they aren't really free, are they? Don't all of these games expire once you stop paying for the service, or do you get to actually keep some of these games forever? If not, a better term would be "free rental" or something like that.

Yeah, I must admit that is the main thing that's keeping me from it, I know it's a little silly as most games I don't touch after the initial period anyway. And of course I see why they can't let you keep them, but still, something about it irks me.

#40 Posted by JackSukeru (5910 posts) -

I'll take my chances.

#41 Posted by myketuna (1679 posts) -

This is probably answered somewhere else, but I'm just gonna go ahead and ask it: Do the free games you get expire after they cease to be free? Does that even happen? For example, say Streets of Rage II is free for June, you download it as a PS+ sub and then in July it stops being free, do you keep the game since you downloaded it during the free period (and as long as you continue subbing)?

Or does it go away and then you have to download the free games available in July which basically means does the copy of Streets of Rage II you got cease to work? All along I've been thinking that PS+ works the way I'm describing which has stopped me from getting it, but if I get to keep the free games they offer (even the retail ones!), then I might just go ahead and do it. But if it does work like I'm saying, then I'm gonna pass. I don't think I have enough time to finish a game in a month.

#42 Edited by xyzygy (9953 posts) -

The thing for me is that I don't like / don't want to play most of the games they offer for "free". Then I realize that I'm paying for 75 - 85% of games that I don't even want. I would rather purchase the few games that I want rather than being offered a list. And to be honest, the list of PSN exclusive games that I want to play is essentially nonexistant. I find that the best downloadable exclusives are on 360; couple that in with the multiplatform games I get on it for achievements and then PS+ really isn't something that sounds good for me.

#43 Edited by FluxWaveZ (19331 posts) -

@SomeDeliCook said:

And after that 3 month subscription you lose those free games unless you renew.

If you would have read the comments in this thread, you'd know that you don't lose the games, keeping them as long as they're on your HDD.

@MB said:

You guys all keep saying "Free games"...but they aren't really free, are they? Don't all of these games expire once you stop paying for the service, or do you get to actually keep some of these games forever? If not, a better term would be "free rental" or something like that.

You keep the games with the activation codes, which are the non-retail ones.

#44 Posted by ESREVER (2684 posts) -

@myketuna: The games available for free in June stay free into July and so on as long as you can access them from your download list. Meaning if you were to remove it from your hdd for some reason, you could still download it for free from your list.

#45 Posted by myketuna (1679 posts) -

@ESREVER said:

@myketuna: The games available for free in June stay free into July and so on as long as you can access them from your download list. Meaning if you were to remove it from your hdd for some reason, you could still download it for free from your list.

But the games that were free in June aren't still on the "free list" in say, August, are they? I always thought they remove some of the stuff as time goes by. Kind of like Netflix. But if I get what you're telling me, if I download ALL the games they offer and then delete them, I could always redownload them for free anyway. Forever (as long as I sub). Am I correct?

#46 Posted by Demoskinos (14778 posts) -

If I had no budget for games PS+ would be amazing. I however buy a fair amount of games so getting free games does nothing for me because I have zero motivation to play them because I have a pile of $60 games I just paid for.

#47 Posted by BestUsernameEver (4825 posts) -

@Brodehouse said:

I wish I turned my Playstation on more often. Also people still care about name colors? Really? Mines blue because it looks good on the black field.

Yeah I never do either. Brand loyalty is such a dumb thing to get behind, people should just admit each company does their own thing well, and that's it, no swearing alligences to certain consoles, it's stupid.

#48 Posted by SpartanAmbrose (834 posts) -

@RockmanBionics said:

I'll take my chances.

#49 Posted by ShaneDev (1696 posts) -

I would rather wait and see what the actual details are and what games I can expect from the service before I buy a subscription. Not really that interested in PS+ anyway but I do want to see that this Gaikai announcement is.

#50 Posted by ESREVER (2684 posts) -

@myketuna said:

@ESREVER said:

@myketuna: The games available for free in June stay free into July and so on as long as you can access them from your download list. Meaning if you were to remove it from your hdd for some reason, you could still download it for free from your list.

But the games that were free in June aren't still on the "free list" in say, August, are they? I always thought they remove some of the stuff as time goes by. Kind of like Netflix. But if I get what you're telling me, if I download ALL the games they offer and then delete them, I could always redownload them for free anyway. Forever (as long as I sub). Am I correct?

Correct! The free games in June would stay free for you as long as you downloaded them in the allotted time. They go off the free list in July, where if you hadn't gotten them before then, you would have to pay for them. But as long as you downloaded them when they were free, they will stay free for you.

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