@BestUsernameEver said:

I did that with Gamefly, it wasn't as great as I predicted. I'd get a game I feared I'd be bored with, and return it a couple days later bored. More and more I am taking risks on strange games on Steam rather than consoles.

i approve of you allocating your money in this way (the steam way).

Got both a PS3 and a Vita and I do subscribe. I love it.

I was until the 4th when my sub ran out. I plan on re-uping when I get paid.

I had a one month trial, and I didn't think it was for me. The discounts were great but I really hated the idea of having borrowed down loadable games.

@thebroken said:

@BestUsernameEver said:

1. Other than LBP2, none of those games interest me.

2. It's absolutely a subscription if I have to pay every month if I want to keep my free games.

I know you really like PS+, but the amount of games I play to the amount of money I have do not add up to make sense with PS+. I play smaller, downloadable games like Journey, Sound shapes, Pixel junk stuff, and bigger games like GTA4, Burnout Paradise, mortal kombat and Gran turismo. Seems like none of the plus stuff is catered to me anyway.

I don't know why you are so hung up on this being a monthly thing. I have a subscription right now that I won't have to pay any money on for another 12 months, so there is absolutely no monthly payments for me, and I would assume for a lot of PS+ subscribers.

If you have enough money to pay for all of those games you listed, which cost way more than $50, then how do you not have money for PS+. Just counting Journey and Sound Shapes you have already paid $30 for just 2 games this year, when I paid $50 at the beginning of the year and have been able to play about 20 games.

And what are you even talking about with this not catering to you argument. Half of the games they offer are "smaller, downloadable games" just like you say you play, and they have had sales on games like Flower, Journey, and all of the Pixeljunk games.

As far as bigger games go, you seem to like racing games and they have had Shift 2, which is a similar type of racing game to Gran Turismo, granted it is not as good. You play Mortal Kombat, so I assume you like other fighting games, and over the last 12 months PS+ I have been able to play some version of Street Fighter 2, King of Fighters, Virtua Fighter, and starting tomorrow Street Fighter 4, so unless Mortal Kombat is the only fighting game you have ever played there are plenty of games here that are similar and even better than Mortal Kombat.

As far as shooters go, as you say you enjoy GTA4, there have been games like Saints Row 2 and Just Cause 2 which are similar enough to GTA4 that you should definitely enjoy them, as well as Far Cry 2, Borderlands, Bioshock 2, and Resident Evil 5 all within this calendar year.

So for just one low price of $50 per year you could have played all of those games without ever thinking about money after your initial payment.

Just because you can pay in year increments doesn't make it a non commitment. Monthly subscriptions require commitment, and for games I don't want to play, that's a crummy deal. And the smaller games that have sales, I get that, but come on now, I am not signing up for plus just to get a discount on 3 games. And also for GTA4, I mentioned only that one because I really dislike saints row and just cause, Sleeping dogs is alright though.

I am. I pay for both plus and live, while I love the build of the live interface, playstation plus is the service I feel good paying for. All those free games and deals. Totally worth the money.

I am subscribed. I love the freebies and discounts. I also feel special when my system turns itself on in the middle of the night and uploads stuff to the cloud and downloads updates.

It's also hard to ignore the Free Game Trials. sure, you've got to install the whole game and that's no fun, but it's also been interesting to do stuff like go back and see where Assassin's Creed was at for an hour (the only AC I've played to date, other than the trial of Revelations that was no revelation).

I avoid bills like the plague, it's the only way I manage to have a flexible income. Some of the games are appealing sometimes, but I have enough games to play that I know I'd just end up downloading them and letting them sit there on my hard drive.

Yeah I subscribe to it. I like to play a lot of different kinds of games so it's a natural fit for me. The playstation 3 is my format of choice for most games unless they are on PC as well so that helps confirm my PS Plus sub.

@BestUsernameEver said:

@Castiel said:

@BestUsernameEver said:

I have both a vita and PS3 and don't subscribe, paying a fee to get 'free' games doesn't make sense to me.

Nobody said anything about free games. You pay a one year fee and then you get 16-18 games a year for the price of one game basically. In essence you only pay for the first game, the rest of them is free. On top of that you get a bunch of other bonuses; online storage (1 gig, that's more than you get without a membership), automatic updates and downloads and trophy synchronisation etc.

But the amount of free stuff you get alone is worth the price of admission. If you want games without paying anything at all then you are just naive or cheap. The price is so low pretty much get them for free anyway.

You're really calling me naive or cheap for not wanting another monthly sub for games that don't interest me? Wow.

I'm not talking about a monthly sub. There is no any monthly sub, not here in Europe at least: you either buy 3 month for $17.99 or a year for $49.99. Here in Europe they have just had and offer were the price for a year was reduced by 50% and that's extremely cheap for a whole year of membership. It's a cheap price to begin with, seing as $49.99 is less than most new games.

@BestUsernameEver: You pay $50 a year to get over $1000 dollars of content

Yes, I'm a subscriber and I plan to renew. This is a great deal and its turned me onto a bunch of games that I wouldn't have necessarily picked up on my own. BL1, Payday, Sideways, and a few others have been real gems that I wouldn't have bought unless they were free. I've also used the Plus discount a bunch to buy games when they launch. My console is aging (I own a PS3 fatty) and I'm not sure how long it will hold out so I wanted to make sure my saves were backed up. This Plus feature along with the auto-patching and trophy syncing is worth the price. I would recommend it to anyone who owns a PS3 but I'm the type of gamer who is ready to embrace download only games. Although the XMB interface isn't optimized to handle sorting a library of games I definitely want to support this type of thing especially if they keep offering this quantity of game perks.

@Castiel said:

@BestUsernameEver said:

@Castiel said:

@BestUsernameEver said:

I have both a vita and PS3 and don't subscribe, paying a fee to get 'free' games doesn't make sense to me.

Nobody said anything about free games. You pay a one year fee and then you get 16-18 games a year for the price of one game basically. In essence you only pay for the first game, the rest of them is free. On top of that you get a bunch of other bonuses; online storage (1 gig, that's more than you get without a membership), automatic updates and downloads and trophy synchronisation etc.

But the amount of free stuff you get alone is worth the price of admission. If you want games without paying anything at all then you are just naive or cheap. The price is so low pretty much get them for free anyway.

You're really calling me naive or cheap for not wanting another monthly sub for games that don't interest me? Wow.

I'm not talking about a monthly sub. There is no any monthly sub, not here in Europe at least: you either buy 3 month for $17.99 or a year for $49.99. Here in Europe they have just had and offer were the price for a year was reduced by 50% and that's extremely cheap for a whole year of membership. It's a cheap price to begin with, seing as $49.99 is less than most new games.

It IS a monthly subscription, I don't care how much you buy in bulk, a monthly sub means it's not a one cost deal, to keep your games, you have to keep paying forever. I can't believe I am still arguing with you guys if you don't understand that.

@natedawg_kz said:

@BestUsernameEver: You pay $50 a year to get over $1000 dollars of content

Quantity =/ quality. I'd rather spend money on individual games I like than paying a membership fee to get a bunch of games I barely care about and one I may.

PS3 and Vita. Automatic updates and cloud storage make it worth the price of admission, the games are just a bonus. Yes, I plan on renewing.