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Extending the Olive Branch

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I like your idea of getting rid of points for platinum and just upping the overall point value of the others.

Completely scrap the gamerscore points system for both Xbox & PSN games, and replace it with a point value based on rarity. It would obviously need some serious thought before implementing, and I've just slung this list together off the top of my head, but something like this: 

" Completely scrap the gamerscore points system for both Xbox & PSN games, and assign a point value based on rarity. It would obviously need some serious thought before implementing, and I've just slung this list together off the top of my head, but something like this:

Percentage of people that have the achievement	Points (Giant Bomb Gamerscore)
less than 1%	500
1-2%	400
2-3%	200
3-4%	100
4-5%	75
5-7.5%	60
7.5-10%	50
10-15%	45
15-20%	40
20-30%	35
30-40%	30
40-50%	25
50-60%	20
60-70%	15
70-80%	10
80-90%	5
90-100%	1

 This sort of system means that the points is actually representative of the skill required to get the achievement. And it also means that points can be assigned to Xbox, PSN, Steam and WoW in the same way. WoW currently has every achievement at 10 points, Steam at 0 points. It would be great to include Steam & WoW in the score calculation in a meaningful way, but with no grading or points system it is hard, if not impossible to implement into the current points system. A rarity based points system would work eaqually well with Steam & WoW as it would with Xbox & PS3. "

I think the problem with the rarity idea is that rarity is measured in comparison to all other users on the site. That means that achievement scores could be CONSTANTLY FLUCTUATING, I imagine it would take a lot more work to build a system that was adjusting the point value of individual achievements and all users scores. 
But hey, maybe I'm just poo-pooing on the guy reaching for the stars!

" Completely scrap the gamerscore points system for both Xbox & PSN games, and replace it with a point value based on rarity. It would obviously need some serious thought before implementing, and I've just slung this list together off the top of my head, but something like this: 

Percentage of people that have the achievement	Points for the achievement (Giant Bomb Gamerscore)
less than 1%	500
1-2%	400
2-3%	200
3-4%	100
4-5%	75
5-7.5%	60
7.5-10%	50
10-15%	45
15-20%	40
20-30%	35
30-40%	30
40-50%	25
50-60%	20
60-70%	15
70-80%	10
80-90%	5
90-100%	1

 This sort of system means that the points is actually representative of the skill required to get the achievement. And it also means that points can be assigned to Xbox, PSN, Steam and WoW in the same way. WoW currently has every achievement at 10 points, Steam at 0 points. It would be great to include Steam & WoW in the score calculation in a meaningful way, but with no grading or points system it is hard, if not impossible to implement into the current points system. A rarity based points system would work eaqually well with Steam & WoW as it would with Xbox & PS3. "

I got an idea, like straight up keep the Sony method of putting points in games. Then calculate out how much points it each PS3 game has. If the average number is say 1500points or something, simply do some math and the have a conversion rate of PSN points to achievement points. No more trying to figure out how much a trophy is worth, just a simple math equation solution.

um...what is the point?  do people actually look at others accounts and look at their achievements/ gamerscore?  I dont. 

Who said that the PSN stuff needs to be a system that's equivalent to XBL's?  Make the PS3 stuff its own thing, and then make the XBL stuff what it already is.

I don't think Psn has to be added into the total. I think the 4 trophy types should to grouped separately.

There's no problem if the game is multiplatform and on 360 or GFWL, just use those number correct? For PS3, omit platinum as someone said, and have the rest (bronze, silver, gold) scale per game so that the total points for the game totals 1000. Use a weighted scale so that bronze is worth a single unit, silver - double, and gold - triple (you can use different weights). So if theres 6 bronze, 10 silver, and 4 gold, that makes a weighted total of 6+10*2+4*3=38, divide the target total (1000) by the weighted number of achievements to determine the unit worth or the value of bronze achievements; double for silver, triple for gold. Easy and always equals 1000 or a little less if you truncate decimals. I don't actually have a PS3 so if this is totally stupid, my apologies.

" There's no problem if the game is multiplatform and on 360 or GFWL, just use those number correct? For PS3, omit platinum as someone said, and have the rest (bronze, silver, gold) scale per game so that the total points for the game totals 1000. Use a weighted scale so that bronze is worth a single unit, silver - double, and gold - triple (you can use different weights). So if theres 6 bronze, 10 silver, and 4 gold, that makes a weighted total of 6+10*2+4*3=38, divide the target total (1000) by the weighted number of achievements to determine the unit worth or the value of bronze achievements; double for silver, triple for gold. Easy and always equals 1000 or a little less if you truncate decimals. I don't actually have a PS3 so if this is totally stupid, my apologies. "

or just keep what actually works. Instead of implementing one of the horrible idea posted here. 

I don't want to compare my trophies with my gamerscore, or my gamerscore with anyone else trophies. I want to just compare Gamerscore with Gamerscore and trophies with trophies. 
 
The total GB gamerscore is pretty cool though.

" or just keep what actually works. Instead of implementing one of the horrible idea posted here.  "

" Instead of changing the PSN numbers only, why not have a conversion rate for all the systems to GB points? "

Bronze needs to be worth exactly half of silver, regardless of the way it's implemented, I think that would fix a lot of problems with the system.

With  
Bronze = 3pts
Silver = 6 pts
Gold = 18 pts
Platinum = 36
most games have a total of about 240 pts.
 
So if you multiply by 4 you get:
Bronze = 12 pts
Silver = 24 pts
Gold = 72 pts
Platinum = 144 pts
And every game gets roughly 1000 pts.
 
Or you could go the other route and say Platinum trophies are extra to the total resulting in
Bronze = 15
Silver = 30
Gold = 90
Platinum = set amount for completion bonus

I don't wanna piss on your parade, but 4 times 240 equals 960, not 1000. You suck at math.

Also no PS3 trophy support for GB anymore.

" Who said that the PSN stuff needs to be a system that's equivalent to XBL's?  Make the PS3 stuff its own thing, and then make the XBL stuff what it already is. "

" @jakob187 said:

" Who said that the PSN stuff needs to be a system that's equivalent to XBL's?  Make the PS3 stuff its own thing, and then make the XBL stuff what it already is. "

Excatley. "

THERE IS NO TROPHY SUPPORT ANYMORE!

I think ParaParaKing has the right idea as far as what to do with Platinums. If I were designing the system, I would have each console separated but I do understand why GB isn't doing it this way.