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Posted by LarryDavis

I hope the anime talk continues into this week. @jeff seemed to know a suspiciously decent amount about it, so I get the feeling he's hiding a dark and beautiful secret.

I thought it was funny how Brad got 10 minutes into Kill La Kill and bailed, then they talked about how non-anime people like FLCL, and KLK is basically FLCL 2.0.

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Edited by AlexWootton

To the guy that was looking for the Japanese public bath info/documentary, I think the reference was from one of the recent 8-4 Play podcasts! Can't be sure but it rings a bell and makes sense as they are all based in japan! Hope that helps.

Posted by Anwar

Skydiving isn't as dangerous as it was in the past. I saw something really spectacular on TV. There is a safety parachute which can open even if the skydiver is unconscious. Two persons crashed in the free fall once. Head on head. Both unconscious.

Other dudes were filming and then the parachute opened 1000 feet before they hit the ground. Sounds great and I might consider doing it know. Never thought about doing it before, because people were still dying from faulty parachutes and that shit is scary to me.

Posted by MusiM

On Destiny, my disappointment came with the alpha and beta. The way they displayed the missions on Earth and the fact that the beta displayed it the same way spelled out how small the game is. So I guess i got over it pretty early.

I get all the criticisms, but I love the game. I've been massively addicted to this since it came out.

But man I know I'm a minority here but I did not get into Diablo 3. The only way I can play that game with any pleasure is couch co-op. And I write this as someone whose favorite game has the initials SMT3N.

I attribute Destiny to a free to play beta model. Warframe adds significant content and changes every few weeks. I expect Destiny to take the same path.

Edited by Sydlanel

To be honest, Jeff's assessment that Destiny is worse than Diablo 3 is mostly retrospective bs. When Diablo 3 came out it was a disgrace, the nonsensical loot system, the auction house, the strict skill tree, the broken difficulty curve, the horrendous story, nothing there was very well done. People forgave it because Blizzard, but it was really terrible in a number of levels.

D3 has "evolved" from that for over a year, and while the console versions of it make a number of improvements, I think it is still horribly flawed. I'm not saying either of them are very excellent though, and Destiny does indeed shock me in its overall half-assed design.But I find that this is a far better game than Diablo when it came out.

Posted by Pictoben

@guy who e-mailed about Japanese hot spring documentary.

I think you're mixing up with a conversation that was going on in either the tested podcast (Jeremy Adams?), or possibly 8-4 play.

Good luck.

Edited by BisonHero

@sydlanel said:

To be honest, Jeff's assessment that Destiny is worse than Diablo 3 is mostly retrospective bs. When Diablo 3 came out it was a disgrace, the nonsensical loot system, the auction house, the strict skill tree, the broken difficulty curve, the horrendous story, nothing there was very well done. People forgave it because Blizzard, but it was really terrible in a number of levels.

D3 has "evolved" from that for over a year, and while the console versions of it make a number of improvements, I think it is still horribly flawed. I'm not saying either of them are very excellent though, and Destiny does indeed shock me in its overall half-assed design.But I find that this is a far better game than Diablo when it came out.

Everything you said is true, so while it's not a fair comparison, in the year of our Lord 2014, in the month of September, Diablo 3 on consoles is a much better mindless repetition loot game than Destiny is. 18 months from now that may be entirely different, but right now, he isn't wrong.

Posted by KaneRobot

Drew is MVP here for "Stephanie...change color" and the reference to he and the Cap'n makin' it happen.

Posted by ripelivejam

@sydlanel said:

To be honest, Jeff's assessment that Destiny is worse than Diablo 3 is mostly retrospective bs. When Diablo 3 came out it was a disgrace, the nonsensical loot system, the auction house, the strict skill tree, the broken difficulty curve, the horrendous story, nothing there was very well done. People forgave it because Blizzard, but it was really terrible in a number of levels.

D3 has "evolved" from that for over a year, and while the console versions of it make a number of improvements, I think it is still horribly flawed. I'm not saying either of them are very excellent though, and Destiny does indeed shock me in its overall half-assed design.But I find that this is a far better game than Diablo when it came out.

Everything you said is true, so while it's not a fair comparison, in the year our Lord 2014, in the month of September, Diablo 3 on consoles is a much better mindless repetition loot game than Destiny is. 18 months from now that may be entirely different, but right now, he isn't wrong.

i also wouldn't go as far as to bandy about words like "terrible" and "disgrace" about pretty much any game really. little in life is worth that kind of vitriol. IMO, D3 was pretty damn good at release and has gotten quite a bit better with subsequent updates. haven't played much of Destiny but i've been busy lately.

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Posted by LazyEkans

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I'm a little more lenient with the Shorts, since they're kinda more off-topic and not a full episode. But man, for example, there's a full length episode called "Are You Sure?" that is basically about doubt. Its three segments are the following:

  • One of the show's producers (Lulu Miller) went on a cross country bicycle trip, because she's a huge hipster or something. At one point she met up with some guy who was doing a similar trip, except his was a weird soul searching thing because he came from a super religious community, was about to marry a religious girl, but suddenly realized he might not believe in God anymore which was 100% a dealbreaker. Miller recorded some of their campfireside chats. She catches up with him later and he eventually married the woman and I dunno, came up with some bullshit have-it-both-ways thing where he's like, not absolutely certain there's a God, but he feels something in church, so that's good enough. ORRRRRRRRR that's bullshit, and he's doing what millions of people do, which is simply lie to himself and others about really believing in God, to make it easier to get social acceptance. Why anyone at RadioLab thought this entire story was worth devoting like a 20 minute segment to baffles me.
  • They talk to Annie Duke and her brother about playing professional poker, and bluffing and whatever, and then they kind of bring up Pascal's Wager for some dumb reason, and never acknowledge that every philosopher or theologist everywhere thinks Pascal's Wager is retarded because it doesn't acknowledge the possibility of other religions, so it isn't simply a binary bet on either "God" or "no God".
  • Then they share this story of this woman who got raped horribly by a random stranger while out jogging, the police bring in a guy who was found in the area that the woman is positive is the perpetrator she remembers. He goes to jail, but like a decade later or something, DNA evidence proves some other criminal did it, and the first guy was innocent. First guy is released, then like a week or month later or something, that innocent guy who was released kidnaps someone, and rapes and murders them. So the woman basically doubts her judgment, and the judgment of any eye witness, and also the prison system messed up that innocent guy or exacerbated some unknown mental issue to the point that he became the monster he was accused of being. It's a super tragic story for basically everyone involved, but goddamn, WHERE IS THE SCIENCE IN THAT ONE, DAWG? OR THE PREVIOUS TWO SEGMENTS? Then they play a bunch of super sad synth music. That's all, folks!

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Yeah, I hear ya. From your points, I heard the first one and was like, whatever, but that second one was super annoying. In the episode "A Very Lucky Wind" they sort of do a reverse of that where at first it's all 'look this thing happened and it CAN'T be a coincidence" then they talk to a person who points out how they were just seeking patterns, like humans do. But yeah, the lack of critical thinking by the hosts, in the episode you mentioned especially, is what really put me off.

I stopped listening to Stuff You Should Know, because the HowStuffWorks network came out with another series called Stuff They Don't Want You To Know (Which is exactly what you think it is). I'm sure the original show is fine, I just felt annoyed and betrayed.

to end on a positive note, The Skeptics' Guide to The Universe is pretty great. Skeptoid is was good and I say "was" because the host is now a jailed criminal eheh heh heh...? Still, I don't know of any podcast with it's shorter format along with referenced sources. Finally, Why You're Wrong is my favorite, even though it doesn't really have a release schedule it's still my favorite and very laid back.

Posted by BisonHero

@lazyekans: Oh yeah, the SGU continues to be great. Obviously more of a chitchat, weekly news Bombcast sort of podcast than the (sometimes) overproduced RadioLab, but the SGU gives way more of a shit about science and thinking critically about it. Steven Novella might be the greatest podcast host I've ever heard. You can tell he'd be a fantastic professor if you ever had any of his classes.

Edited by Sydlanel

@ripelivejam said:
@bisonhero said:

@sydlanel said:

To be honest, Jeff's assessment that Destiny is worse than Diablo 3 is mostly retrospective bs. When Diablo 3 came out it was a disgrace, the nonsensical loot system, the auction house, the strict skill tree, the broken difficulty curve, the horrendous story, nothing there was very well done. People forgave it because Blizzard, but it was really terrible in a number of levels.

D3 has "evolved" from that for over a year, and while the console versions of it make a number of improvements, I think it is still horribly flawed. I'm not saying either of them are very excellent though, and Destiny does indeed shock me in its overall half-assed design.But I find that this is a far better game than Diablo when it came out.

Everything you said is true, so while it's not a fair comparison, in the year our Lord 2014, in the month of September, Diablo 3 on consoles is a much better mindless repetition loot game than Destiny is. 18 months from now that may be entirely different, but right now, he isn't wrong.

i also wouldn't go as far as to bandy about words like "terrible" and "disgrace" about pretty much any game really. little in life is worth that kind of vitriol. IMO, D3 was pretty damn good at release and has gotten quite a bit better with subsequent updates. haven't played much of Destiny but i've been busy lately.

Ok maybe I was being slightly hyperbolic. I'm not sure. Or Maybe it was expectations, but I honestly felt like diablo 3 had some pretty abysmal design decisions. Specifically with the veritable pinatas of useless loot, coupled with the money auction house, which actively destroyed the whole point of the game, to play it for loot.

(while giving blizzard a slice of all transactions).

It had also issues with the lack of variety between character stats and skills ( one character of a certain class was technically identical to any other of the same class... and the only differentiation was the gear) in this sense, Destiny is also guilty but it is by nature a shooter, so it is expected. Sure, some people don't like to mess with technicalities, but the diablo games were a staple for allowing flexible character creation.

And I don't think anyone can deny that D3's story was complete garbage.

Moreover, the engine was designed to play on old hardware, but managed somehow to play really badly in new hardware too (DX9 based and seemingly not well ported to DX11, which they only fixed months later)... So not even on a technical level was it very proficient (and don't forget about the many network issues that it launched with).

The thing is, that diablo had very deep issues ( many of which Destiny shares ) but on many other levels, Destiny is also a far more accomplished launch, even with all the complaints.

Edited by dbene

Comparing Destiny to Diablo 3 is ludicrous IMO. We all knew what to expect what Diablo 3. It's mindless looting but at least that is what they promised and that is their brand. Destiny promised so much more and basically delivered Diablo 3 in 3d Form with guns.....yet not as appealing art wise or direction wise. It's like a non cell shade Borderlands 2 without the benefit of free roaming and any kind of even acceptable story. Borderlands at least had more flavor,character, and identity. Destiny is almost as generic as a game can be.

Posted by pwnmachine

SAVIO VEGA!!!

Posted by Kojak

What's the name of the Pinball game? don't want to listen through again.

Posted by dbene
Posted by AssInAss

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Oooh didn't know they'd talk about the Metro Redux QL.

"I was NOT in the mood to play that game hehe" - Dan

Posted by Chumm

Was great to hear drew talk about rum agricole, that's some proper cocktail nerd shit! It's usually made in Martinique (and called rhum agricole) but St. George does a great job reproducing the effect. It's a $50 bottle here in Chicago but it's damn good stuff. Use it with Smith and Cross navy strength rum in a proper Mai Tai and it'll blow your mind with funkiness.

Edited by SpaceDesperado

that in the dust of this planet podcast sucked @drewbert. i can't believe you would think this did any sort of justice to true detective or even informative podcasts.