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Posted by Tan

I'm dizzy now.

Posted by Cloneslayer

As soon as they let me chop off my perfectly good limbs to put super powered robo-limbs on, I'll be first in line. Bring on the cyber future baby!

Edited by teaoverlord

@ruggles said:

@monetarydread: Where's all this cool Zoe Quinn content? I only know about a Bombin on the AM guest appearance and this. I must be really missing out.

She was on their GDC stream and Patrick did a panel with her at PAX. I guess this must mean there's also something scandalous going on between Jeff and Dave Lang though.

Edited by Amikron

@wastrel said:

@amikron said:

@decko5 said:

No more Zoey, please.

I like that you think your pleas to not interact with someone will do anything.

Yes heaven forbid people think that saying please and being polite about it rather than just ranting and raving like so many do might actually have an effect. I guess you'd prefer we all just curse and carry on instead?

edit:

As soon as they let me chop off my perfectly good limbs to put super powered robo-limbs on, I'll be first in line. Bring on the cyber future baby!

Sounds great until you realize you'll probably get stuck with the old limb ports and won't be able to upgrade until you buy a new set of "arm ram" or something off Newegg...

Posted by SpiderJerusalem

@amikron:

I understand your point and I'm definitely not a fan of Zoe Quinn, but this content doesn't really detract from anything else the other guys are doing. We didn't lose anything by Patrick having done this particular interview, considering Patrick lives in Chicago and all it took to do this was a Skype call.

If Patrick wants to talk to Zoe Quinn, or Phil Fish or any other people in the gaming industry I might dislike; he'll keep doing it. All we can do is realize this was not made for us and check out the other great content on the site instead.

Posted by Humanity

Her next game should be called Implant Quest.

Edited by LikeaSsur

The worst part about all of this is that Zoe will forever be known as the girl who made Depression Quest. Even though she's made dozens of other "games," that's the one will stick with her forever, regardless of whatever crazy hijinks she comes up with next.

Also, she marvels at the fact that she can feel magnetic energy now, but...we can already do that.

Edited by PurpleSpandex

Becoming less and less happy about the way these podcasts end. A wrap up would be very nice, this ends terribly with the end of a sentence and then the stinger.

And mods you have a lot of work to do in here. Awful idiots saying stupid things all over the place.

Edited by Wastrel

@amikron said:

@wastrel said:

@amikron said:

@decko5 said:

No more Zoey, please.

I like that you think your pleas to not interact with someone will do anything.

Yes heaven forbid people think that saying please and being polite about it rather than just ranting and raving like so many do might actually have an effect. I guess you'd prefer we all just curse and carry on instead?

Why bother telling them to do something they won't do in the first place? Why will posting that change anyone's minds? My point is that it's not even worth saying at all.

Edited by Amikron

@spiderjerusalem said:

@amikron:

I understand your point and I'm definitely not a fan of Zoe Quinn, but this content doesn't really detract from anything else the other guys are doing. We didn't lose anything by Patrick having done this particular interview, considering Patrick lives in Chicago and all it took to do this was a Skype call.

If Patrick wants to talk to Zoe Quinn, or Phil Fish or any other people in the gaming industry I might dislike; he'll keep doing it. All we can do is realize this was not made for us and check out the other great content on the site instead.

That is the thing, I'm not saying "we're losing patrick", neither did @decko5 ... It is just making clear a dislike for a person that appears on the site. As users of the site we should be informing the crew who we do and do not like. That is how they know who is worthwhile to have on. Obviously the majority of the GB content is what the crew wants and that is fine, but they also (as they should) attempt to cater to their audience at least somewhat.

@wastrel: with that kind of attitude why are you a subscriber to the site at all? That is some fatalist shit right there.

Posted by Asiwassaying

@dts:

I think the problem most people have with this interview is that it's boring. Patrick is not a particullary entertaining or interesting communicator mostly due to his age and Zoe is an introspective self-aware rather normal regular boring person who also doesn't have the life experience to have a rich uniqueness and presence. Even if something isn't meant for entertainment, if you seek a public audience you can expect people to yell "what the F is that?" when it's not on the level, even when it's free. Thinking people's time isn't worth more than that is a lack of respect towards them.

Edited by pyromagnestir

Is VinnCo doing weird/illegal/immoral human experimentation with magnets now?

Posted by ZoeQuinnzel

@cloudymusic:

Actually I've had the magnet for the better part of the year and ran diagnostics to confirm the hard drive was dying, and tested it against several different, working hard drives. So no.

Posted by Mirado

Once science advances to the point that you can have a limb removed (in an accident or purposefully) and replaced with a superior piece of machinery, then I'll be all for it. Doesn't matter if the cultural acceptance part hasn't caught up, as soon as I can get working cyberarms, I'm in.

Until then, this sounds like a novelty at best. Tech is moving too rapidly for body chips to have any long standing use, and the magnet thing serves no practical purpose. Not that it needs to, I guess. Just not my cup of tea.

Edited by Wastrel

@amikron said:

@wastrel: with that kind of attitude why are you a subscriber to the site at all? That is some fatalist shit right there.

Because just saying you don't like someone isn't enough to change their minds, especially for Zoe. Since gets a lot of hate from various angles, it's easy to brush off one-off comments like "I don't like her" which makes the comment pointless. There's no substance to that. Why don't you like her? Because you think this is irrelevant? It's not interesting? Or was this interview too long-winded or unfocused? You need to have some weight behind it, or else they're just going to ignore it.

Posted by Amikron
@wastrel said:

@amikron said:

@wastrel: with that kind of attitude why are you a subscriber to the site at all? That is some fatalist shit right there.

Because just saying you don't like someone isn't enough to change their minds, especially for Zoe, since gets a lot of hate from various angles, so it's easy to brush off one-off comments like "I don't like her" which makes the comment pointless. There's no substance to that. Why don't you like her? Because you think this is irrelevant? It's not interesting? Or was this interview too long-winded or unfocused? You need to have some weight behind it, or else they're just going to ignore it.

If I state my opinion I will be moderated for it. I attempted to simply highlight a quote that matched my feelings on this matter. I shouldn't have to write a paragraph long discussion just to state something as simple as "I don't like Zoe Quinn, please stop having her on the site." I just summed it up perfectly right there.

Posted by Vigorousjammer

I personally wouldn't want a chip in my hand, just for the worry of something going wrong and I wouldn't be able to use my hands or arms anymore.
Still, this tech is pretty cool, and I'd probably get a chip implanted in my ear that I could wirelessly transfer data to, perhaps both ears. Especially if they each came with a little tiny speaker, so I could essentially use them as headphones.
Not sure where I'd want the 3 1/4" jack... having it on the back of my neck would be the most ergonomic spot, and it's but that would be dangerously close to my spinal cord.
Maybe I could just have it on my shoulder or something?

Posted by TheHT
@amikron said:

@wastrel said:

@amikron said:

@decko5 said:

No more Zoey, please.

I like that you think your pleas to not interact with someone will do anything.

Yes heaven forbid people think that saying please and being polite about it rather than just ranting and raving like so many do might actually have an effect. I guess you'd prefer we all just curse and carry on instead?

Plea

noun: plea; plural noun: pleas

1. a request made in an urgent and emotional manner.

Relax dude. We get it, you don't want to see or hear or read any more about Zoe Quinn. Pretty sure this half hour interview didn't edge out some other content you might enjoy.

Posted by neato

looking forward to patrick's interview with max tempkin and his new power balance bracelet.

Posted by Xeirus

@theht said:
@amikron said:

@wastrel said:

@amikron said:

@decko5 said:

No more Zoey, please.

I like that you think your pleas to not interact with someone will do anything.

Yes heaven forbid people think that saying please and being polite about it rather than just ranting and raving like so many do might actually have an effect. I guess you'd prefer we all just curse and carry on instead?

Plea

noun: plea; plural noun: pleas

1. a request made in an urgent and emotional manner.

Relax dude. We get it, you don't want to see or hear or read any more about Zoe Quinn. Pretty sure this half hour interview didn't edge out some other content you might enjoy.

Pretty sure all this content is optional.
Grow up, seriously.

Edited by DTS

@asiwassaying said:

@dts:

I think the problem most people have with this interview is that it's boring. Patrick is not a particullary entertaining or interesting communicator mostly due to his age and Zoe is an introspective self-aware rather normal regular boring person who also doesn't have the life experience to have a rich uniqueness and presence. Even if something isn't meant for entertainment, if you seek a public audience you can expect people to yell "what the F is that?" when it's not on the level, even when it's free. Thinking people's time isn't worth more than that is a lack of respect towards them.

Some people might find the interview boring, and that's certainly not a problem! I'm not personally interested in the Power Bombcast, but I'm glad it's on the site. If I was in to wrestling I'd probably really enjoying hearing Alex, Jeff, and friends talk about wrestling. That'd be neat.

So the assumption there isn't that the content is worth everyone's time, but that it is worth some people's time. Similarly, I don't assume that my standard of worth/interest should apply to everyone else. Should I assume that the entirety of Giant Bomb's content production is modeled around my exact standards of worth? I don't think so. I think I should assume its a website with employees that have varied interests, and because its so personality driven we get to see those focuses come out in special content.

The same applies here. Though it might not, if we can get to the bottom of some questions:

  • Does this particular piece of content merit a different standard of acceptance than the "it's not for me, but maybe it's for you" method that is applied to other content on the site?
  • Is it diminishing the quality of other Giant Bomb features, and if so, why does it have this effect when other content does not?
  • Is it morally reprehensible in a way that should cause people to be upset that it exists?

It's hard for me to see why this interview should be treated differently. Especially considering the regularity of "friends of the site" on Giant Bomb. Even if all previous content seemed to be custom-made for that particular user, I still can't understand why they would then think that Giant Bomb is diminished by content like this.

But all that stuff aside, the problematic comments in this section haven't been well-intended feedback or civil criticism. It's been accusations of attention seeking behavior, claims that it should be on the site because it's not related to video games, or that Quinn must be dating someone on the site to be featured to often.

They're comments that are personal and emotional, and their notable absence in other areas points to this being a problem with the people involved.

Which just makes me wonder, what about this content makes people feel the need to act against it instead of simply not click on it?

Posted by Set

i dont even know who zoe quinn is

Edited by HerbieBug

I will hop on board with the cybernetic enhancement idea if and when it provides actual enhancement to my capabilities as a person, rather than just minor convenience. Something like a chip that can unlock my computer and apartment door would not be an enhancement of my lifestyle.

Now, if I could see in to the infrared wavelengths with an eye modification, that's the direction of things that would have real appeal for me. Or perhaps a brain implant that could cure insomnia by safely and quickly putting me in to a sleep state.

Edited by Pezen

Human augmentation is something I find super fascinating. Although this interview only briefly touched on possibilities and more seemed to focus on Zoe's punk rock mentality to tech and her history with tattoos and body modifications. The fact that the interview barely graces the idea of video games is pretty irrelevant to me. The subject itself is interesting anyway, and Zoe continues to seem like a really awesome person.

Posted by mrcraggle

@set said:

i dont even know who zoe quinn is

She's been on this site a bunch recently. She did a PAX panel with Patrick and she was also on during the live GDC show. She's the developer of Depression Quest.

Posted by teaoverlord

@set said:

i dont even know who zoe quinn is

She's been on this site a bunch recently. She did a PAX panel with Patrick and she was also on during the live GDC show. She's the developer of Depression Quest.

Also Giant bomb is going to hire her.

Posted by MB

What an unexpected and compelling interview! Took me back to my boyhood dreams of getting a T800 arm. One day...

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Posted by Dooley

Like stupid tattoos people get when they are younger, somewhere down the line she will regret this decision.

Posted by tourgen

Incorrect on the magnets. They will absolutely rip right out in the presence of a magnetic resonant imaging field. People seriously do not understand how powerful those magnetic fields are - around 2-3 Teslas. Don't have anything metal on or around you when they switch on.

A couple things I caught: She can still get an MRI. It's been proved (including on an ep of Mythbusters) that it won't get ripped out. Same with the magnet. As I understand it, the implants are too small, to be effected by the MRI? Or something like that?

Posted by Fram

"I asked for this."

Edited by Amikron

@theht said:
@amikron said:

@wastrel said:

@amikron said:

@decko5 said:

No more Zoey, please.

I like that you think your pleas to not interact with someone will do anything.

Yes heaven forbid people think that saying please and being polite about it rather than just ranting and raving like so many do might actually have an effect. I guess you'd prefer we all just curse and carry on instead?

Plea

noun: plea; plural noun: pleas

1. a request made in an urgent and emotional manner.

Relax dude. We get it, you don't want to see or hear or read any more about Zoe Quinn. Pretty sure this half hour interview didn't edge out some other content you might enjoy.

@xeirus said:

@theht said:
@amikron said:

@wastrel said:

@amikron said:

@decko5 said:

No more Zoey, please.

I like that you think your pleas to not interact with someone will do anything.

Yes heaven forbid people think that saying please and being polite about it rather than just ranting and raving like so many do might actually have an effect. I guess you'd prefer we all just curse and carry on instead?

Plea

noun: plea; plural noun: pleas

1. a request made in an urgent and emotional manner.

Relax dude. We get it, you don't want to see or hear or read any more about Zoe Quinn. Pretty sure this half hour interview didn't edge out some other content you might enjoy.

Pretty sure all this content is optional.

Grow up, seriously.

Pretty sure I'm totally calm but thanks for the two super responses you guys!

Posted by DickDanger

You guys talked about trolling and jerks on the internet for what seems like an eternity and then you go and do something like this. Not that I care that much myself, but when you do things like this, aren't you just asking for it? =P

Edited by Sweetz

Seems a little silly and extreme when you accomplish exactly the same thing by wearing a ring with an NFC chip, but hey if it makes you happy...

Posted by Cogzwell

Humans used to be able to sense magnetic fields, it was a sense in our sinuses that we used like a compass much like dogs do. We lost it over time as we became able to logically determine compass directions and our sinuses became the worst fucking thing in the history of evolution.

Posted by xbob42

I actually found this whole interview very interesting. Sounds like something I won't do until they can make it painless, I ain't putting no giant needle in me or being scalpeled without anesthetic!

Also, if you don't want to read or listen to Zoe Quinn stuff, don't click it. Patrick wasn't interrupting some other grand article or feature by doing a 30 minute interview, duders. Chill the fuck out.

Posted by Amikron

@obikwiet: I'm not silly enough to think my personal opinion alone means anything but the staff obviously care about our opinions in a general sense, they've said as such in the past. The suggestion that the only options are to either rant like an idiot or shut up and be quiet just seem insane to me. I've not once in this comment section suggested I'm "angry" or "upset" by this interview I simply quoted a post that showed displeasure with her being in another feature on the site. If I cannot do that then what is the point of even having a comment section on the interview?

Posted by zeekthegeek

@amikron said:

@obikwiet: I'm not silly enough to think my personal opinion alone means anything but the staff obviously care about our opinions in a general sense, they've said as such in the past. The suggestion that the only options are to either rant like an idiot or shut up and be quiet just seem insane to me. I've not once in this comment section suggested I'm "angry" or "upset" by this interview I simply quoted a post that showed displeasure with her being in another feature on the site. If I cannot do that then what is the point of even having a comment section on the interview?

Jeff is on the record as thinking Patrick's content and interviews are the best content they generate so I guess it sucks to be you maybe find another site that will cater to your every whim. Or become an adult and act it.

Posted by Amikron
Posted by Fonzinator

@mrcraggle said:

@set said:

i dont even know who zoe quinn is

She's been on this site a bunch recently. She did a PAX panel with Patrick and she was also on during the live GDC show. She's the developer of Depression Quest.

Also Giant bomb is going to hire her.

Don't even joke about things like that man. I am about as neutral as I think I can be about ZQ, but I don't want to have to deal with the people who hate her.

Posted by jvice152

@robo:

@robo said:

@humanity said:

Her next game should be called Implant Quest.

Is "Attention Quest" taken?

bringing the heat!