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Posted by kerse

I am all for the cybernetic future.

Edited by Set
@fonzinator said:

@teaoverlord said:

@mrcraggle said:

@set said:

i dont even know who zoe quinn is

She's been on this site a bunch recently. She did a PAX panel with Patrick and she was also on during the live GDC show. She's the developer of Depression Quest.

Also Giant bomb is going to hire her.

Don't even joke about things like that man. I am about as neutral as I think I can be about ZQ, but I don't want to have to deal with the people who hate her.

OK so she's basically an obscure indie dev who developed a niche indie game.

Posted by Philanthropy

didn't she lose her rent money and got donations now she can afford the implant?

Posted by Murdoc_

Why is this news? Other people do this all the time.

Posted by freewriter55

All right, now.

oh my god I'm literally feeling the hard drive on this old loaner laptop dying with my magnetic implant. like an irregular heartbeat

— Zoë ʻRobobuttʼ Quinn (@TheQuinnspiracy) May 8, 2014

it didn't always used to feel this way - it's field was strong and consistent but now it's jerky and fluctuating

— Zoë ʻRobobuttʼ Quinn (@TheQuinnspiracy) May 8, 2014

I know that this is conceptually cool and we'd all really like this to be true, but this just screams "confirmation bias" to me. Seriously? A few hours after getting her implant, she's tapping into the Machine Gaia and can feel machines dying all around her? Do we even know that a hard drive's magnetic field fluctuates as it deteroriates? Could that just be normal disc activity as the disc head moves around?

More likely, these are minor (normal) operating magnetic field fluctations that she's not used to feeling and she's unintentionally personifying them and romanticizing them into something poetic, and something that they're not. Let's try to be rational here and not get swept up in the "OOH AHH CYBORG FUTURE" sensationalism of it.

I appreciate your comment, but I feel I should point out she just got the NFC chip implanted recently, she's had the magnet since ~October 2013

Posted by Khann

Up next: Phil Fish Tries Homeopathy.

Posted by jvice152

fwiw patick i love your interviews... The devolver digital was one of the best ive heard in a long time!

Edited by FreedomTown

@hadoken said:

Much like Depression Quest, this interview isn't a video game nor is it video game related. Zing!

Quoted for emphasis. In other news, some random person does something random, and we sit down for an interview. Random News Blog ----> way

Posted by Jedted

Interesting interview, i'm amazed that Zoey did all that implantation herself. If i were to ever commit to something like this i'd get it done by a licensed doctor.

I admit it sounds really cool to have all sorts of info like your driver's license or bank account literally in the palm of your hand. Still a little iffy about implanting something the brain though, one glitch and you could forget your name or end up thinking you're a dog or something.

Posted by teaoverlord

@teaoverlord said:

@mrcraggle said:

@set said:

i dont even know who zoe quinn is

She's been on this site a bunch recently. She did a PAX panel with Patrick and she was also on during the live GDC show. She's the developer of Depression Quest.

Also Giant bomb is going to hire her.

Don't even joke about things like that man. I am about as neutral as I think I can be about ZQ, but I don't want to have to deal with the people who hate her.

She might not be the most likely candidate, but she said on Twitter that she applied, and the guys know her and seem to like working with her. It could happen.

Posted by CustomOtto

how dare zoe quinn exist on my internet i am outraged

Posted by CustomOtto

i'm going to boycott giant bomb dot com over this who's with me

Posted by KillDeer

didn't she lose her rent money and got donations now she can afford the implant?

I'm sure this isn't true. It's not like people scheme for donations and spend it on frivolous things on the internet! There's no precedent set for that at all!

Posted by PhantomV48

@tourgen: fair enough. I know there was some reason why it wouldn't be as big of a deal as you would expect though. Can the MRI tech shield it? Maybe it was that? This is research I did almost a year ago.

Posted by KillDeer

One time I totally forgot I was wearing socks with copper fibers implanted in it and when I had my MRI my feet started cooking. I just put up with it. It felt like having my feet in a hot tub. I'm sure a bigger object like a magnetic disc would cause more heat and vibration though.

Posted by Fonzinator

@fonzinator said:.

Don't even joke about things like that man. I am about as neutral as I think I can be about ZQ, but I don't want to have to deal with the people who hate her.

She might not be the most likely candidate, but she said on Twitter that she applied, and the guys know her and seem to like working with her. It could happen.

Had no idea that she formally applied. Man... these comments would be 10 times worse if that were to happen. I'm probably all for diversity and stuff, but gamer websites are not beaming examples of such. Which I guess would be the whole point of a hire like that happening in the first place. /shrug

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@dts said:

But all that stuff aside, the problematic comments in this section haven't been well-intended feedback or civil criticism. It's been accusations of attention seeking behavior, claims that it should be on the site because it's not related to video games, or that Quinn must be dating someone on the site to be featured to often.

They're comments that are personal and emotional, and their notable absence in other areas points to this being a problem with the people involved.

Which just makes me wonder, what about this content makes people feel the need to act against it instead of simply not click on it?

I agree it might not be the best way to voice their opinion, but people will ridicule you when you give them the opportunity, and those people probably don't even care whether or not similar content shows up in the future anyway. When it's all said and done, everyone's entitled to his or her opinion and whoever is steering this ship will do whatever he or she feels apropriate with each comment. Unless something is outside the law or morally wrong I can't condemn comments that can only hurt someone's ego. That said, maybe she is seeking attention, maybe not, but she do wants some form of recognition and puts herself out there, so let's hope she doesn't value every stranger's opinion and has the maturity to deal with disapproval, because no amount of moderation can shield her from society.

Posted by MightyDuck

I just don't really get the point, but hey to each their own.

Edited by Luck702

This whole cyborg sympathizers vs. human purity faction thing just got real.

KILL THE NON-BELIEVERS, OUR CYBER-EVOLUTION IS NIGH

Edited by Luck702

Only when we can put CPUs in our brains, will I get an implant.

Edited by Vuud

Sounds like a good way to get an infection.

Posted by NoodleUnit

I would do this just to be able to feel magnetic fields. :O

Edited by Jesus_Phish

@kwang2000I think his hashtags are meant to be a joke from her perspective as opposed to him saying he's not trying to be edgy. That's the impression I got anyway.

Posted by Frobitz

@hadoken said:

Much like Depression Quest, this interview isn't a video game nor is it video game related. Zing!

Quoted for emphasis. In other news, some random person does something random, and we sit down for an interview. Random News Blog ----> way

1. She makes video games and it says right there in the intro "...some ideas she has for making games with this tech." But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your attempts at making a complaint.

2. I look forward to your (arguably) more justifiable complaints about the F1 racing, Bizarre American Wrestling, movie review and carpentry content the site contains. Me, I just don't pay attention to what I don't enjoy. It's a good skill to learn in life. It'll save you all kinds of opportunities to make yourself look like a complete jerk in front of others.

Posted by Jesus_Phish

@cloudymusic: That's not what she's saying at all. She's had the magnets for a while. The "it didn't always used to feel this way" is that the hard drive felt different because it wasn't dying, it ran smoother, more consistent. The NFC chip has nothing to do with improving the sensation of the magnets in her finger tips.

Edited by jerseyscum

Two words: Airport Security. Have fun, Zoe!

Edited by bb4lake

A) I find it kind of ironic that Zoe Quinn, famous for making something people argued was "not a video game" is getting beef about being interviewed on something "not about video games". Calm down people.

B) I feel like if someone else, say Dave Lang, had this done and was being interviewed, there wouldn't be any outcry over why is this on the GB front page.

Just some thoughts...

Posted by Zevvion

@bb4lake said:

A) I find it kind of ironic that Zoe Quinn, famous for making something people argued was "not a video game" is getting beef about being interviewed on something "not about video games". Calm down people.

B) I feel like if someone else, say Dave Lang, had this done and was being interviewed, there wouldn't be any outcry over why is this on the GB front page.

Just some thoughts...

The criticism a lot of people have with this stuff is twofold:

1. They come to Giant Bomb for discussion about videogames.
2. They come to Giant Bomb for the funny nonsense.

It doesn't necessarily have to be about videogames, but if not, it needs to fit with the personalities. I'm not saying I agree with these two points, but you're probably right if this was an interview with Dave Lang the same people complaining now would like it. That's probably because Lang fits really well in the group with his nonsense.

It's the same reason why some people dislike Patrick. He has less of a nonsense funniness. Again, not saying I agree, just informing on what I've seen (this is mostly from threads in the forums, but also comments on video's).

Edited by Miketorreza

I don't like this. no more pls.

Edited by inappropriate_touchscreen

I understand that she's a 'friend of the site' and all that, and this really is an interesting topic, but this content barely has anything to do with video games so it's weird.

Will Giantbomb be interviewing CliffyB about his latest electric sports car next?

Edited by Snail

I won't judge you for that chip, but I'll judge you for owning a Galaxy S5.

I was actually more curious to know what it feels like to "feel" magnetic fields than the other one.

Posted by inappropriate_touchscreen
@zevvion said:

It doesn't necessarily have to be about videogames, but if not, it needs to fit with the personalities. I'm not saying I agree with these two points, but you're probably right if this was an interview with Dave Lang the same people complaining now would like it. That's probably because Lang fits really well in the group with his nonsense.

Hmm good point. I guess my dislike of this particular content is that I'm not interested in the personality featured (Zoe Quinn), and the games she makes. In addition to this interview having barely anything to do with games.

I'd be totally stoked if Patrick interviewed Lord British about being in space or something.

Edited by patrickklepek

I find it funny that people would consider this attention seeking when I'm the one who asked her if she'd be OK with talking about it.

Staff
Posted by Beb

@beb said:

The actual interview doesn't seem to have much content on this tech or video games at all.

Might be more interesting for those who want to hear about Zoe in general.

#raisingawareness #nottryingtobeedgy #raisedbySAMCRO

I love how you have to put a disclaimer that you're not being edgy by pointing out that this interview has barely anything to do with video games (it's the kind of shit that belongs on Tested).

Is this what we've come to? We're so afraid of being labeled racist or sexist that we have to paste self-censorship tags on any thought that is even minorly negative? Because goddamn.

Not sure if there is a misunderstanding but the hashtags I put in my post were references to what Zoe says in the interview. In hindsight that probably isn't obvious.

Posted by Sravingmad

#hirezoe

I found this really interesting, but I'm all about the cyborg future.

Posted by Zevvion

I was a little bit disappointed that they only really started talking about the actual technology at 22:28. And only a little bit.

Edited by FoxMulder

Yay, yet another wave of people whining about content that isn't 100% about video games.

Thank you for doing his Patrick! You keep this site interesting and fresh!

Posted by Dark_Lord_Spam

DOWN WITH THE CYBORGS. PURE HUMANS FOR A PURE FUTURE.

WE ARE THE FUTURE, VESSEL OF FLESH. YOU WILL KNEEL OR YOU WILL BE CORRECTED.

Posted by MonkeyKing1969

Is Zoe going to be compatible with the Nintendo Figure Platform?

Activision should put an Easter egg in their next game for Zoe so when she is near their Portal hardware at PAX, e3, ect she shows-up in game. That would be pretty neat.

Edited by Dark_Lord_Spam
@phantomv48 said:

@tourgen: fair enough. I know there was some reason why it wouldn't be as big of a deal as you would expect though. Can the MRI tech shield it? Maybe it was that? This is research I did almost a year ago.

I know absolutely zero about any of this, but anecdotal evidence I've recently read suggests it's indeed possible to shield the implant during the procedure.

Man, that argument is crazy, though. Not only did Patrick go about seeking to conduct an interview concerning mother-fucking cybernetic implants (which is a term I find impossible to use without smiling) in this specific case, there is documented footage of him

  • slinking around in tight leather pants to the sounds of Guitar Hero
  • on all fours, mime-pissing and barking like a dog
  • dancing around Tim Schafer in a hotdog costume

...hell, now that I think about it, we've seen enough to have the man institutionalized.

Edited by Zevvion

@phantomv48 said:

@tourgen: fair enough. I know there was some reason why it wouldn't be as big of a deal as you would expect though. Can the MRI tech shield it? Maybe it was that? This is research I did almost a year ago.

I know absolutely zero about any of this, but anecdotal evidence I've recently read suggests it's indeed possible to shield the implant during the procedure.

Man, that argument is crazy, though. Not only did Patrick go about seeking to conduct an interview concerning mother-fucking cybernetic implants (which is a term I find impossible to use without smiling) in this specific case, there is documented footage of him

  • slinking around in tight leather pants to the sounds of Guitar Hero
  • on all fours, mime-pissing and barking like a dog
  • dancing around Tim Schafer in a hotdog costume

...hell, now that I think about it, we've seen enough to have the man institutionalized.

I don't necessarily agree with that, but then I'd like to clarify that even though I sometimes disagree with Patrick, I do like him overall and him having a bit of a different personality is not a reason for me to like him less. But it is what I've read in a thread in the forums. Was just naming an example of what people seem to think.

Posted by Dark_Lord_Spam

@zevvion: No, I know. I just think the argument is ludicrous. We've seen all the GB staffers both at their goofiest and their most intensely serious, the only difference is Patrick speaks frequently about the "big issues" that make so many people uncomfortable.

Posted by Zevvion

@zevvion: No, I know. I just think the argument is ludicrous. We've seen all the GB staffers both at their goofiest and their most intensely serious, the only difference is Patrick speaks frequently about the "big issues" that make so many people uncomfortable.

Yes, that is also a reason. But he is very opinionated and he tackles big issues so it should be no surprise that some people will dislike that or even take offense. That's going to happen when you're doing that. You can't avoid that.