if you've played the last Prince of Persia game you can all agree that the game sucked. 
 
You couldn't die.
You had a nice cookie cutter path laid out for you. 
No choice except which rail to take.
The characters voice acting was awful; the writing even worse.
 
They took the charm that made the Prince famous for the new gamers and sucked it out for a Disney experience. Here's to hoping the new game goes back to what made it great in the first place. Great characters, great gameplay that required you to think and time things well and non-retarded sidekicks.

if you've played the last Prince of Persia game you can all agree that the game sucked. 
 
You couldn't die.
You had a nice cookie cutter path laid out for you. 
No choice except which rail to take.
The characters voice acting was awful; the writing even worse.
 
They took the charm that made the Prince famous for the new gamers and sucked it out for a Disney experience. Here's to hoping the new game goes back to what made it great in the first place. Great characters, great gameplay that required you to think and time things well and non-retarded sidekicks.

I loved the last PoP because it felt like more of an experience than a game. I don't know. It was just stunning. 
 
But I think this new one has the possiblity to be garbage, simply because it's tying in with the movie. And we all know how the vast majority of movie-games are -_-

They've stated in press releases they scrapped the whole "press forward to win" philosophy and are attempting to do what made the original (by which I mean the PS2 era game) work. Nascon if you will. But then, they attempted to and failed twice to capture what made the first game work in its sequels, which is why they had a retcon to begin with. They're just all over the map.

I really liked the last one, found it very relaxing to play and I don't think i ever got annoyed or stressed out at any section in the game, just simple fun! But i must say whilst I don't mind this PoP and will probably enjoy it if it's a return to its roots I'll be pretty annoyed if they don't finish up the story of the 'Disney' PoP as you call it.

It's FAILURE, not fail. That shit's stupid.  
 
Anyway, that last one was pretty good, some fun platforming, and an okay combat system. Puzzles weren't great, but I liked how you kinda felt alone half the time in the levels, and the combat's sparse. Reminded me of what I liked in tomb raider.

" It's FAILURE, not fail. That shit's stupid.

Maybe Im just oversimplifying things but couldn't they just make a game with the best aspects of both retcons instead of jumping back and forth? People like the responsive, clever platforming in SOT so keep it. People like that the new PoP understood PoP combat tends to suck so they made it happen less often. The new art style was pretty great, and people seem to like the way SOT masked the fact that you never die better than the new one which made it more obvious that you never die. So time manipulation, "death" (that brings you to the checkpoint of 5 seconds ago unless you just went back in time), painty art style, sparse (but more meaningful) fights, actual platforming. No "dark" prince, no heavy metal music. Its not that hard, Ubi, you've got all the pieces just put the damn thing together.

" I loved the last PoP because it felt like more of an experience than a game. I don't know. It was just stunning. "

i think the last Prince of Persia sucked because it was for kids like mario and I only play mature hardkore games for mature hardkore gamerz such as myself, like Ninja Gaiden and Modern Warfare 2 on hardcore 
 
Get the fuck out of here. The last Prince of Persia was the best out of the bunch. It wasn't as challenging as the Sands of Time games, no, but the platforming felt better, the story was great, the characters were excellent, and it was aesthetically pleasing to the point where simply being it its world was more enjoyable than completing even the most difficult of the older games' platforming puzzles. Complaining that the game sucked because it was easy is like complaining that a beautiful, flower-filled forest where the sun's shining and the birds are singing sucks because all you have to do to get to the other side is walk.
 
Also, I find it extremely humorous that pretty much everyone who hated the game because it was easy will tell you that God of War III, which was even easier, is a fantastic game.

" @xyzygy said:

" I loved the last PoP because it felt like more of an experience than a game. I don't know. It was just stunning. "

Considering there was nothing in that game, I don't understand what you were experiencing besides thinly veiled QTE and shit voice acting. "

" Also, I find it extremely humorous that pretty much everyone who hated the game because it was easy will tell you that God of War III, which was even easier, is a fantastic game. "

I played the last Prince of Persia game and thought it was by far the best yet, and apparently so does everyone else. You. Have. Failed.

" @Icemael said:

" Also, I find it extremely humorous that pretty much everyone who hated the game because it was easy will tell you that God of War III, which was even easier, is a fantastic game. "

That's just a made up correlation you're using to discredit valid points people have against the last PoP. Seriously, why would you use such a lazy red herring like that. "

" It's FAILURE, not fail. That shit's stupid. "

" @Icemael said:

" Also, I find it extremely humorous that pretty much everyone who hated the game because it was easy will tell you that God of War III, which was even easier, is a fantastic game. "

That's just a made up correlation you're using to discredit valid points people have against the last PoP. Seriously, why would you use such a lazy red herring like that. "

I like Sands of Time slightly more than PoP. I didn't think Warrior Within or The Two Thrones were good at all, and I'm glad they had the balls to try something completely different.  I don't understand why everyone complains about the fact that you couldn't "die", the game just used a checkpoint system cleverly embedded into the narrative.  The combat did kind of suck, but it was flashy, which was nice, and I don't ever expect there to be really good combat in a Prince of Persia game anyway.  I was also pretty interested in the characters and the world.
 
That said, the TC is utterly wrong about why this new game has a chance to fail.  It's an easy three word phrase: Movie. Tie-in. Game.

" if you've played the last Prince of Persia game you can all agree that the game sucked... "

"I find it extremely humorous that pretty much everyone who hated the game because it was easy will tell you that God of War III, which was even easier, is a fantastic game. "

" God of War III might be easier but at least it had a sense of progression. "

" @Icemael said:

"I find it extremely humorous that pretty much everyone who hated the game because it was easy will tell you that God of War III, which was even easier, is a fantastic game. "

@HandsomeDead said:

" God of War III might be easier but at least it had a sense of progression. "

 Are you guys high? God of War III is 10x harder. "

I have a bet with a friend it won't get over a 50% on Rotten Tomatoes. It better do badly. :p

" I died less than ten times. And even if you count all of the deaths, the total number was below fifty, and more than half of those were because of the fucking atrocious final boss battle. God of War III is the most mindless button masher I've ever played.In my first Prince of Persia playthrough, however, I don't think I even got the "Be gentle with her" achievement. You know, the one you get for "dying" less than a hundred times. "

" @Icemael said:

" I died less than ten times. And even if you count all of the deaths, the total number was below fifty, and more than half of those were because of the fucking atrocious final boss battle. God of War III is the most mindless button masher I've ever played.In my first Prince of Persia playthrough, however, I don't think I even got the "Be gentle with her" achievement. You know, the one you get for "dying" less than a hundred times. "

I didn't get Be Gentle With Her either yet I still think God of War III is a harder game. Besides, death count isn't necessarily the best way to gauge difficulty. "

" if you've played the last Prince of Persia game you can all agree that the game sucked.   You couldn't die. You had a nice cookie cutter path laid out for you.  No choice except which rail to take. The characters voice acting was awful; the writing even worse. "

" if you've played the last Prince of Persia game you can all agree that the game sucked.   You couldn't die. You had a nice cookie cutter path laid out for you.  No choice except which rail to take. The characters voice acting was awful; the writing even worse. "

Looks generic and the graphics aren't all that good. I like the last game's grahpics better.

" Why did you post this twice? "

I liked the recent PoP. Sorry.

 For starters, Prince of Persia did not start with the Sands of Time trilogy, which many people seem to forget. It was considered a great series long before Sands of Time came out.
 
And considering some of the criticisms I see of PoP08, I have to wonder how many people have played any of the PoP games. You never died in PoP before - you rewound back to before you screwed up, or a previous checkpoint. All they did was streamline that hugely. Linearity? Have you played any of the SoT trilogy? PoP08 was, in terms of the world, actually not very linear at all. You had your choice of where to go first. The SoT games were pure linear in terms of story. And in terms of gameplay, yes, PoP08 was a linear game. So were all of the older ones. That's not anything new at all, that's simply how PoP has always played. As far as characters go, this Prince and Elika were actually very well-fleshed out. Or did you miss all of the little conversations throughout the game? Certainly more so than Sands Prince and Farah/Kaileena, in my opinion. 
 
And why do people still say "movie tie-in!" about Forgotten Sands? It's not, good lord, it's got absolutely nothing to do with the movie. 
 
Sheesh.

I want it to be Nintendo hard.

I'm pretty sure if the newest PoP came under as a completely new title, it would be praised a lot more than it is now. The problem is that it is judged under some very high quality games first off, and that it took a nearly completely different direction to its predecessors, making it almost completely unlikely for a PoP veteran to like it.

" if you've played the last Prince of Persia game you can all agree that the game sucked."

Just throwing this out there, but what's with the complaints about linearity in the 2008 PoP game? Sands of Time and its sequels were all incredibly linear, straight-path games too. To the point that while I enjoyed Sands of Time immensely, I can't ever play through it again. It's just too dull to do so.
 
Ubisoft has evolved that style of gameplay with Assassin's Creed, more especially the sequel (the original was pretty...well, bad). The ease is a little overplayed. Not being able to die and being easy are two different things. Death in games has become meaningless in several genres. Wario Land took death out in the second game, and the third too I believe, but it was still challenging to actually complete the levels.
 
Keep in mind I only played maybe an hour of the 2008 game. I plan on maybe playing it through at some point and coming to my own conclusion. Really pretty game.

" I loved the last PoP because it felt like more of an experience than a game. I don't know. It was just stunning.  But I think this new one has the possiblity to be garbage, simply because it's tying in with the movie. And we all know how the vast majority of movie-games are -_- "

I really loved the last Prince of Persia. My only gripe was the lack of that many challenging platforming sections. I even liked the writing and voice acting in the game. I'd listen to my partner talk whenever the option came up.

" if you've played the last Prince of Persia game you can all agree that the game sucked.