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Cultural and Racial problems of this game were never observed in any of magazines and presses of gaming world, but this doesn't means that this game is correct about the topic that used for its theme.
game title is "Prince of Persia".
It means that this game is somehow connected to "persia" that is an ancient land. but this is not even "somehow" connected to the persia, neither early 90s games or ubisoft's trilogy and this new one.

1- It used Indian costumes instead of persian. i believe that their inspiretion for costume("They" means all the developers of all PoPs) was Sinbad the Sailor and Sinbad is an indian myth.

Ancient Persian Costume

2- environment where games take place is very arabian. definitely they could not direct the architecture ascepts of game but you know they could do more. seeing some pictures of ancient buildings is very simple.

3- Perisans are not Arabian. i don't know what the fuck in world brought this idea that they are/were an "Arab Nation". here's what i'm talking about:

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Scanned from Edge magzine. you can dig everywhere you can, Persian is aseparate race.

Cheers.

Posted 3 months ago

Cultural and Racial problems of this game were never observed in any of magazines and presses of gaming world, but this doesn't means that this game is correct about the topic that used for its theme.
game title is "Prince of Persia".
It means that this game is somehow connected to "persia" that is an ancient land. but this is not even "somehow" connected to the persia, neither early 90s games or ubisoft's trilogy and this new one.

1- It used Indian costumes instead of persian. i believe that their inspiretion for costume("They" means all the developers of all PoPs) was Sinbad the Sailor and Sinbad is an indian myth.

Ancient Persian Costume

2- environment where games take place is very arabian. definitely they could not direct the architecture ascepts of game but you know they could do more. seeing some pictures of ancient buildings is very simple.

3- Perisans are not Arabian. i don't know what the fuck in world brought this idea that they are/were an "Arab Nation". here's what i'm talking about:

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Scanned from Edge magzine. you can dig everywhere you can, Persian is aseparate race.

Cheers.

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Who cares?

Posted 3 months ago

Who cares?

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Well, I guess it is not historically accurate. That is too bad for people who either care about the game or Arab or Persian history. I have never been interested in this game so I don't care much but it is pretty stupid Ubisoft can make such a blatant mistake.

Posted 3 months ago

Well, I guess it is not historically accurate. That is too bad for people who either care about the game or Arab or Persian history. I have never been interested in this game so I don't care much but it is pretty stupid Ubisoft can make such a blatant mistake.

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PureRok said:

"Who cares?"

Someone probably.

RHCPfan24 said:

"Well, I guess it is not historically accurate. That is too bad for people who either care about the game or Arab or Persian history. I have never been interested in this game so I don't care much but it is pretty stupid Ubisoft can make such a blatant mistake."

I don't care about both of these too. but i hate misinforming. The only PoP i played was the first one on Sega Mastersystem.

Posted 3 months ago

PureRok said:

"Who cares?"

Someone probably.

RHCPfan24 said:

"Well, I guess it is not historically accurate. That is too bad for people who either care about the game or Arab or Persian history. I have never been interested in this game so I don't care much but it is pretty stupid Ubisoft can make such a blatant mistake."

I don't care about both of these too. but i hate misinforming. The only PoP i played was the first one on Sega Mastersystem.

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Seriously? I was going to PoP for all of my historical accuracy needs.

Posted 3 months ago

Seriously? I was going to PoP for all of my historical accuracy needs.

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Loosely based on history and culture? A lot of games are that way, it really doesn't bother me. The fact that Ubisoft was remaking a game from the early 90's may have something to do with it. They probably wanted to keep the game's name, too. "Prince of Arabia" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Posted 3 months ago

Loosely based on history and culture? A lot of games are that way, it really doesn't bother me. The fact that Ubisoft was remaking a game from the early 90's may have something to do with it. They probably wanted to keep the game's name, too. "Prince of Arabia" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

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while I agree that inaccuracies can be frustrating technically it was edge that made the typo as he is the prince of perisa making him Iranian, which as you point out is well miles away from arabia but at this time those two empires/cultures would be clashing. none the less this is a pretty pointless topic.

Posted 3 months ago

while I agree that inaccuracies can be frustrating technically it was edge that made the typo as he is the prince of perisa making him Iranian, which as you point out is well miles away from arabia but at this time those two empires/cultures would be clashing. none the less this is a pretty pointless topic.

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Jesus! Next you'll tell me that Too Human isn't historically and culturally accurate either!

Posted 3 months ago

Jesus! Next you'll tell me that Too Human isn't historically and culturally accurate either!

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And Paradise City in Nevada is not an island populated entireley by cars driving on their own free will, but we didn't complain because nobody gives a fuck

Posted 3 months ago

And Paradise City in Nevada is not an island populated entireley by cars driving on their own free will, but we didn't complain because nobody gives a fuck

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I still like this game but now I'm aware of the innacuracies (which makes me kinda frustrated :S) I won't criticize you unlike any other dick doesn't take your post as merely an informative one.

Posted 3 months ago

I still like this game but now I'm aware of the innacuracies (which makes me kinda frustrated :S) I won't criticize you unlike any other dick doesn't take your post as merely an informative one.

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If you're going to go to any video game for historical facts, I don't think PoP should be that game. At least play a historically accurate game like Rome: Total War or any of the Civ games...

Posted 3 months ago

If you're going to go to any video game for historical facts, I don't think PoP should be that game. At least play a historically accurate game like Rome: Total War or any of the Civ games...

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Jayge said:

"Seriously? I was going to PoP for all of my historical accuracy needs."

lol?

brukaoru said:

"Loosely based on history and culture? A lot of games are that way, it really doesn't bother me. The fact that Ubisoft was remaking a game from the early 90's may have something to do with it. They probably wanted to keep the game's name, too. "Prince of Arabia" just doesn't have the same ring to it."

But at least they could try a little bit more about accuracy of their historical matters. what difference does it makes really?

Shotaro said:

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while I agree that inaccuracies can be frustrating technically it was edge that made the typo as he is the prince of perisa making him Iranian, which as you point out is well miles away from arabia but at this time those two empires/cultures would be clashing. none the less this is a pretty pointless topic.
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Of course i didn't start this thread if i had not a point. obviously inaccuracies and misinforming is not very important for majority of game players, because it doesn't surpass the total gameplay and i'm not saying something otherwise.. ( i didn't get what are you saying about the two empires? can you say it more clearly?)
HazBazz said:

"And Paradise City in Nevada is not an island populated entireley by cars driving on their own free will, but we didn't complain because nobody gives a fuck"

I'm not looking for people who give a fuck. i'm informing.
BiggerBomb said:

"If you're going to go to any video game for historical facts, I don't think PoP should be that game. At least play a historically accurate game like Rome: Total War or any of the Civ games..."

Of course. this game is also very fantasy and imaginiary.(kind of the game that i mostly hate when they are not made in RPG genre)

Posted 3 months ago

Jayge said:

"Seriously? I was going to PoP for all of my historical accuracy needs."

lol?

brukaoru said:

"Loosely based on history and culture? A lot of games are that way, it really doesn't bother me. The fact that Ubisoft was remaking a game from the early 90's may have something to do with it. They probably wanted to keep the game's name, too. "Prince of Arabia" just doesn't have the same ring to it."

But at least they could try a little bit more about accuracy of their historical matters. what difference does it makes really?

Shotaro said:

"
while I agree that inaccuracies can be frustrating technically it was edge that made the typo as he is the prince of perisa making him Iranian, which as you point out is well miles away from arabia but at this time those two empires/cultures would be clashing. none the less this is a pretty pointless topic.
"

Of course i didn't start this thread if i had not a point. obviously inaccuracies and misinforming is not very important for majority of game players, because it doesn't surpass the total gameplay and i'm not saying something otherwise.. ( i didn't get what are you saying about the two empires? can you say it more clearly?)
HazBazz said:

"And Paradise City in Nevada is not an island populated entireley by cars driving on their own free will, but we didn't complain because nobody gives a fuck"

I'm not looking for people who give a fuck. i'm informing.
BiggerBomb said:

"If you're going to go to any video game for historical facts, I don't think PoP should be that game. At least play a historically accurate game like Rome: Total War or any of the Civ games..."

Of course. this game is also very fantasy and imaginiary.(kind of the game that i mostly hate when they are not made in RPG genre)

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All very true, but still, were you really expecting historical accuracy from a game about a man who kills thousands of sand monsters and travels through time?

Posted 3 months ago

All very true, but still, were you really expecting historical accuracy from a game about a man who kills thousands of sand monsters and travels through time?

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I thought it was because they were invading another place.

So when they avaided the place, they wore their clothes and stuff. Makes sense to me

Posted 3 months ago

I thought it was because they were invading another place.

So when they avaided the place, they wore their clothes and stuff. Makes sense to me

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These games never really interested me, but I think most of the media classifies any Middle Eastern country as an "Arab Nation".

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These games never really interested me, but I think most of the media classifies any Middle Eastern country as an "Arab Nation".

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The Prince is an Antagonist right? Because he belongs to the persians and the persians are bad. Like in 300, which is historically correct to the bone

Posted 3 months ago

The Prince is an Antagonist right? Because he belongs to the persians and the persians are bad. Like in 300, which is historically correct to the bone

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The Prince is technically the protagonist. He's the good guy... well, you play as him anyway.

Aurelito said:

brukaoru said:
"Loosely based on history and culture? A lot of games are that way, it really doesn't bother me. The fact that Ubisoft was remaking a game from the early 90's may have something to do with it. They probably wanted to keep the game's name, too. "Prince of Arabia" just doesn't have the same ring to it."
But at least they could try a little bit more about accuracy of their historical matters. what difference does it makes really?

Exactly. What difference does it make? So why make this thread if even you agree it doesn't make a difference?

Posted 3 months ago

The Prince is technically the protagonist. He's the good guy... well, you play as him anyway.

Aurelito said:

brukaoru said:
"Loosely based on history and culture? A lot of games are that way, it really doesn't bother me. The fact that Ubisoft was remaking a game from the early 90's may have something to do with it. They probably wanted to keep the game's name, too. "Prince of Arabia" just doesn't have the same ring to it."
But at least they could try a little bit more about accuracy of their historical matters. what difference does it makes really?

Exactly. What difference does it make? So why make this thread if even you agree it doesn't make a difference?

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atejas said:

"All very true, but still, were you really expecting historical accuracy from a game about a man who kills thousands of sand monsters and travels through time?"

No, i said, i expected more true cultural reflects, in other words.

MisterSpiffy said:

"These games never really interested me, but I think most of the media classifies any Middle Eastern countries as an "Arab Nation"."

Unfortunately. the primary reason that made me to start this topic is this problem.

TheDavidSwain said:

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The Prince is an Antagonist right? Because he belongs to the persians and the persians are bad. Like in 300, which is historically correct to the bone
"

I'm not interested in Ancient Persia and Achaemenid Empire because they were absolute dicks just like you saw in that movie. but even 300 didn't made a true and accurate historical movie(though it was a fantasy comic book). for example even if Xerxes king the son of Darius was a psycho, at least he wore a dress. i posted a picture of ancient persian costume. and also persians are not black and they are from white race. that is clear for sure but as i said, 300 was not true either that movie, Alexander back in 2004.

PureRok said:

"The Prince is technically the protagonist. He's the good guy... well, you play as him anyway.

Aurelito said:
brukaoru said:
"Loosely based on history and culture? A lot of games are that way, it really doesn't bother me. The fact that Ubisoft was remaking a game from the early 90's may have something to do with it. They probably wanted to keep the game's name, too. "Prince of Arabia" just doesn't have the same ring to it."
But at least they could try a little bit more about accuracy of their historical matters. what difference does it makes really?

Exactly. What difference does it make? So why make this thread if even you agree it doesn't make a difference?"

I was not saying that, i said what diffrence deos more cultural reflects make.

Posted 3 months ago

atejas said:

"All very true, but still, were you really expecting historical accuracy from a game about a man who kills thousands of sand monsters and travels through time?"

No, i said, i expected more true cultural reflects, in other words.

MisterSpiffy said:

"These games never really interested me, but I think most of the media classifies any Middle Eastern countries as an "Arab Nation"."

Unfortunately. the primary reason that made me to start this topic is this problem.

TheDavidSwain said:

"
The Prince is an Antagonist right? Because he belongs to the persians and the persians are bad. Like in 300, which is historically correct to the bone
"

I'm not interested in Ancient Persia and Achaemenid Empire because they were absolute dicks just like you saw in that movie. but even 300 didn't made a true and accurate historical movie(though it was a fantasy comic book). for example even if Xerxes king the son of Darius was a psycho, at least he wore a dress. i posted a picture of ancient persian costume. and also persians are not black and they are from white race. that is clear for sure but as i said, 300 was not true either that movie, Alexander back in 2004.

PureRok said:

"The Prince is technically the protagonist. He's the good guy... well, you play as him anyway.

Aurelito said:
brukaoru said:
"Loosely based on history and culture? A lot of games are that way, it really doesn't bother me. The fact that Ubisoft was remaking a game from the early 90's may have something to do with it. They probably wanted to keep the game's name, too. "Prince of Arabia" just doesn't have the same ring to it."
But at least they could try a little bit more about accuracy of their historical matters. what difference does it makes really?

Exactly. What difference does it make? So why make this thread if even you agree it doesn't make a difference?"

I was not saying that, i said what diffrence deos more cultural reflects make.

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Video Game.

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Video Game.

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Video Game Deemed Unrealistic

More News At 11

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Video Game Deemed Unrealistic

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The level design in The Two Thrones was actually very Persian influenced. Other then that your pretty much right.

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The level design in The Two Thrones was actually very Persian influenced. Other then that your pretty much right.

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I thought this was going to be a topic about the controls. Moving on.

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I thought this was going to be a topic about the controls. Moving on.

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I have one thing to add to this thread.

Fiction.

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I have one thing to add to this thread.

Fiction.

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get2sammyb said:

"I have one thing to add to this thread.

Fiction."

Harry Potter is a Fiction too.

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get2sammyb said:

"I have one thing to add to this thread.

Fiction."

Harry Potter is a Fiction too.

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Aurelito said:

"get2sammyb said:
"I have one thing to add to this thread.

Fiction."
Harry Potter is a Fiction too.
"

Erm... yes. Exactly.

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Aurelito said:

"get2sammyb said:
"I have one thing to add to this thread.

Fiction."
Harry Potter is a Fiction too.
"

Erm... yes. Exactly.

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Aurelito said:

"get2sammyb said:
"I have one thing to add to this thread.

Fiction."
Harry Potter is a Fiction too."

And we all know how bad that is.

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Aurelito said:

"get2sammyb said:
"I have one thing to add to this thread.

Fiction."
Harry Potter is a Fiction too."

And we all know how bad that is.

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Honestly, that persian costume doesn't look very suited to acrobatics at all. And Sinbad is often misattributed to Arabian mythos(and it's sin-Bahd, not sin-Baed)

Posted 1 month, 1 week ago

Honestly, that persian costume doesn't look very suited to acrobatics at all. And Sinbad is often misattributed to Arabian mythos(and it's sin-Bahd, not sin-Baed)

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atejas said:

"Honestly, that persian costume doesn't look very suited to acrobatics at all. And Sinbad is often misattributed to Arabian mythos(and it's sin-Bahd, not sin-Baed)"

Both of them are wrong pronunciations, the real name is "Sand(as in sand)-Baad".

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atejas said:

"Honestly, that persian costume doesn't look very suited to acrobatics at all. And Sinbad is often misattributed to Arabian mythos(and it's sin-Bahd, not sin-Baed)"

Both of them are wrong pronunciations, the real name is "Sand(as in sand)-Baad".

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Aurelito said:

"atejas said:
"Honestly, that persian costume doesn't look very suited to acrobatics at all. And Sinbad is often misattributed to Arabian mythos(and it's sin-Bahd, not sin-Baed)"
Both of them are wrong pronunciations, the real name is "Sand(as in sand)-Baad".

"

Eh? Looks like my lore is a bit off, my bad.

Posted 1 month, 1 week ago

Aurelito said:

"atejas said:
"Honestly, that persian costume doesn't look very suited to acrobatics at all. And Sinbad is often misattributed to Arabian mythos(and it's sin-Bahd, not sin-Baed)"
Both of them are wrong pronunciations, the real name is "Sand(as in sand)-Baad".

"

Eh? Looks like my lore is a bit off, my bad.

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It's a freaking video game.

I want all of you to know that not all Italians are plumbers. And not all Hedgehogs are blue. They are actually quite brown.

Posted 1 month, 1 week ago

It's a freaking video game.

I want all of you to know that not all Italians are plumbers. And not all Hedgehogs are blue. They are actually quite brown.

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