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@wolfgame said:

@aelric: I can't speak to HBK's method, it may be perfectly reasonable, it could be the best exercise routine ever invented. But, none of that means jack if it doesn't work for you. This is the biggest problem, the diet/exercise industry is all competing to tell you why your exercise is garbage and you will never get results unless you adopt their stringent curriculum of tough exercise. I find it is too easy to get mired in "how" to exercise instead of just doing it. Other than suggesting you monitor your calorie intake within a healthy range, which it sounds like you are doing, I say keep at what works for you. I didn't lose 60+ pounds by following any web based diet plan, no pills, no supplements(outside of a multivitamin), and I have only recently started using Whey protein. I just ran each and every day and continue to. It's possible that my diet was the most inefficient from the perspective of the fitness industry that would have loved to have me roped into a annual gym membership to achieve those same results. I think with so many ways to exercise like anything in life we are all working to improve our health, it's important to acknowledge that there exist multiple ways to achieve results and these will always vary from person to person. I would encourage HBK to consider that before coming down on you too hard.

Exactly. Results are results, and I'm not popping pills for it, I'm not starving myself for it (though I might increase my calories a bit because I think I AM a little to low. If I stop having positive results, if my weight loss falls short, I'll consider other plans. I'm still in my first month. The workout I have been doing has three difficulty levels. Like Diablo 3, I beat this mode, I'll level up and start again when I finish this first 30 day routine tomorrow. and then 30 days after that, I'll try the hardest difficulty. Then I'll think about alternatives moving forward. I gotta keep my focus for now, though.

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@thehbk said:

@aelric: Well I just think you are misinformed and don't believe in yourself. For one, there are no cheat days. There are cheat meals. You can't eat shit for a whole day and not expect to lose some progress. So careful with that. As for the Arnold plan, many think, "oh well, I don't want to get that big." Guess what? It is all about diet, so unless you go up to 4,000 calories, you won't be. You can get a cheap used dumbell and barbell set to do this with along with something like the Iron Gym to do pull ups. Also, as for getting big or even that you can't do the first day. Trust me, you can do it. It does not say how much weight you have to use. Like your site say too though, 30 minutes of cardio a day, minimum.

Well, you may be right about about the nutrition and by cheat day, I did mean meal. Then again, I have results, and I'm losing withing the safe rate of less than two pounds a week. And I don't feel weak.

I really hate the idea that there is only one right way. Well, why are there so many different plans, many of which seem quite effective? Different plans work for different people. I've also been enjoying yoga. I'm totally into these "girl" workouts way more than the competitive meathead dick waving that many of the strength training programs posture as. Also, I find massive dudes really gross looking, whereas an attractive yoga lady makes a more pleasant video to follow.

As for the Arnold Plan, buying equipment isn't possible, I live abroad and travel to new spots all the time. I'm going to China in two months, for example. I don't want or need to lug gym equipment around. And also, I am not interested in that. You are putting too much on my plate up front, which is exactly why I avoid gyms. Aggressive support isn't supportive to me. People shouting at me that I can do it still just feels like people shouting at me. It's exactly why I hate, ACTIVELY HATE, gym culture. Let me do my thing and I usually do well. Micromanage me and I quit immediately. Thus far, this program has been working for me, I don't want to hear about other programs and get overwhelmed and I think that is a legitimate sentiment.

I will worry about strength training and other shit /MAYBE/ once I hit my goal weight of 195 (I'm 6'5" with a small frame, that is what I'm supposed to be). Until then, it's this plus my hour long bike rides each day. Switching programs would just feel like quitting.

I do appreciate that you are trying to help, it's just not the sort of help I really respond well too. I'm not meaning to be rude, just honest. Different strokes, different folks and all that.

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@wolfgame said:

@jackentrote: That's probably one of the bigger things that stop people from exercising, when you first get started and are working those muscles it can feel like you will always be sore, but honestly if ya keep at it daily for about a month you will very rarely experience those problems. That has been my experience, though I do remember a lot of that type of soreness when I was getting started and a small amount as I continued to escalate the distance of my daily runs.

I was limping on both legs for the first week on my workout plan. It sucked, but it cleared up after the first few days.

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@kazona said:

@aelric: Good on you for trying to get in shape! That being said, 1500 calories is way too low if you're looking to lose weight in a healthy way.

1200 for women, 1800 for men according the multiple sources is the minimum. I have cheat days too. Also, been doing around 1400 for a month now and feel way better than before. I'm far from starving myself, you can get a lot of veggies, chicken, oatmeal and fruits into 1200-1500. It's a fairly bland diet, but that is what the cheat days are for. My BMR is 1927, so it's only a deficit of a about 500. I could maybe use a little more since I also burn about 500 on the bike in an hour and these exercises are not high calorie burns, just daily habit training.

@thehbk said:

Here is a complete training regimen that will get you in shape.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/arnold-schwarzenegger-blueprint-trainer-main.html

I would have to already be in much better shape to make it through day one of that. I don't have any interest in looking like that. I don't care about strength or looks, really. I not interested in protein powders or supplements that are required for that either, and I'm especially not into gym culture. All I wanted was daily routines to help me stay fit and slim down to a healthier, without equipment because I'm not gonna pay money for what is totally doable without equipment. I'm quite satisfied with the plan I've found on NeilaRey.com. Non-threatening, non-intimidating illustrated workouts with multiple difficulty levels and mixed up throughout the month to avoid boredom. Perfect.

The goal isn't to look like an Adonis, it's just to be healthier. Looks and strength is secondary and ultimately unimportant compared to the real goal.

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@helvetica said:

Congrats on the weight loss! That is very tough thing to do.

@mattyftm said:
I'm considering joining a gym, but I've never set foot in a gym before in my life, and the thought is rather terrifying.

You should totally do it! I am way more inspired by people who are cooking their caboose off then those who carry around their jug of water and check themselves out in the mirror. There is something very powerful about challenging yourself and then doing something you were never able to do before. Also, I don't know if people realize how many anonymous cheerleaders they have. Anyone who busts their buns earns respect.

I could use some work myself; I have tiny T-Rex arms and need to lose some weight. I'm going to give that 30 day workout a shot, although those climbers kill me.

Gyms can be a double edged sword. I've had gym memberships at least three times since college, and I tried to use the Gym in my school when I was in College. Every time, I got self-conscious about how much better everyone in the room was doing than me and left after 10 minutes. Every time. I'm sure it's great for some folks, but I'd say it's cheaper and I feel more habit forming to do a no equipment workout with a friend or alone daily and then after some time go to the gym than it is to go to a gym straight away.

That is just me, though. If you think that won't bug you or make you quit, then go right ahead and the best of luck.

Helvetica: Those climbers get to be a piece of cake pretty quick. It's side planking that is the surprise killer, because they look so easy in the illustration, and then you realize how focused the strain is about 5 seconds in. Also, leg raises, which make your abs feel awesome afterwards but can be murder to get through. I really like that there are difficulty levels on this plan, it makes the hard ones way more compartmentalized and doable. Sine I'm almost at the end of it, I'm just gonna start again and level up. Then level up again the third month. After that, I'll look at the 90-day plan on that site, or join a gym and get a trainer. I'm hoping to get to about 190lbs (I'm 6'5", so that is my ideal weight, actually) with a greater part of that weight being muscle instead of fat.

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So, it's fairly stereotypical to consider gamers to be overweight or lethargic or weak or all of the above. that typically isn't as true as it perhaps once was, since games have become more and more popular, a greater mix of gamer types have entered the scene. that said, I'm totally overweight, lethargic and weak.

About a month ago while using stumble upon, I came across this workout and it seemed doable. It was 30 days, different exercises each day. One day it's squats and pushups, another it's lunges and planks. It also came with three difficulty levels and a menu, but I threw the menu out and instead tried calorie counting with a free app, eating whatever but keeping calories down to about 1200-1500.

I didn't do all the exercises right. For days that called for running, I instead jumped on an exercise bike that I luckily had, or I would skip it. And I have too much wieght in my middle, so I have trouble planking more than ten seconds without hurting my back, but for the most part, this has been really effective for me. I've gone down about 5 pounds in 25 days, from 250 to 245lbs. I feel stronger and better in general, though my legs and abs are sore fairly often.

Now that said, it's not a weight loss workout. At least, it's not claiming to be. It's more general fitness, like getting in a daily habit, but it's working for me and I figured there might be someone here who it might also work for.

The website has quite a few one day workouts on it too. It's all free and it requires no equipment.

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So, no one in Guangzhou, then? Oh well, shot in the dark.

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So, As I mentioned in a previous post, I'm going to China in the next month or two for a year. I'll be in the city of Guangzhou teaching English, as I've done in Korea and Thailand before. Since it's a rather big city, I thought that perhaps I'd meet a few giant bomb guys in the town, maybe set up a city games night or something, or just meet new people in a city I've never lived in before. Anyhow, shot in the dark, any Duders down Guangzhou way?

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Oh yeah? Alright. Well, I just didn't want them to go to waste.

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So, I signed up for the beta on PC last week and I'm have since gotten three beta codes, one fore xbox and two for PC in my email so far. I already registered the first and have been playing, so here are my two spares for anyone who wants them. Enjoy:

PC: HDL4-3KU4-XTCM-KVUQ-S6BF

XBOX: HPTY3-32K6T-32DC9-T3XC4-49TWZ