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Is $300 the PS3 sweet spot?

The most recent price drop is like a breath of fresh air for anyone who has ever enjoyed a game on a sony console. The drop was long-warranted, perhaps even as long as since when the console was infamously introduced at E3 over 3 years ago.  Frankly I was thrilled that the PS3 slim was announced at the 300 dollar price spot. However, there was one aspect of it that was a complete deal-breaker for me. 
As recently as a week ago I finally obtained my own PS2 (in a straight up trade for the entire Naruto series, which i had gotten on the cheap and never bothered to unwrap). I've loved it so far, especially Odin Sphere. So you would think that I regret the trade now? Not at all. 
The main problem that I had with the PS3 is something that has been maintained, despite consumer dismay. That is the lack of backwards compatability. On its own it only has a bare minimum of games I want that I don't already own on the 360 (Those being Metal Gear Solid 4, Valkyria Chronicles, Uncharted and perhaps the Ninja Gaiden remakes). If the console at this 300 dollar price had backwards compatability, I wouldn't be here writing this blog post (my first in a few months). Instead I'd be banging on the doors at Target begging them to let me in when the sliding doors were only feet away (i can be kind of a loon sometimes).  
So, in summary:  
                               Playstation 3 worth 300 dollars for people who do own PS2s and not 360s? YES  
                                     Playstation 3 worth 300 dollars for people who do own PS2s and 360's? No
                   Playstation 3 worth 300 dollars for people who don't own PS2s and do own 360s? NOT NEARLY 
If/When Sony does release a BC PS3 at 300 dollars, I'll be there day one. Until then, I'll be happy with my PS2 (and Wii, DS, PSP, and 360)

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@AgentJ said:

" @calidan777 said:

" Ok people,you can't use the old "it's a great value because it has a Blu-ray player" line anymore,not when Wal-Mart is selling Blu-ray players for $98.That line worked when they were like $1000,but not any more. "
Hrm, if that is the case, it almost seems like if I was really interested in Blu Ray movies (which I absolutely am not) and wanted to play PS2 games, I'd just skip the PS3. Anyways, it's just not worth it to me. I respect that Liquid Prince and others found it worthwhile, but I don't see it so.  "
ok, your not getting a PS3. the end.   
 
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" @AgentJ said:

" @LiquidPrince said:
" Well people can't complain about the price anymore. For $300 you're getting a PS3 AND the best Blu-ray player on the market. "
You do realize for someone that doesn't want to go out and buy all his movies again, that isn't really a benefit? I'm only saying that I'm waiting until the PS3 catches up in the two areas it's lagging behind its competition in. Is that too much to ask? "
You don't have to go and rebuy them... It is a DVD player too. It's a great starting pont for people to start getting into Blu-ray and when you do, (most people do) then you'll even want to go out and buy some of those classics. Also what are those two areas? BC is non existent on the 360 and what else? "
You forget, AgentJ only buys things to play older software on apparently. So if he were ever to buy a blu-ray player, he would just use DVDs.  
 
PS sorry to sound to bitchy, but it seams you already dislike the PS3 and get off to bashing the new model right when it comes out. 
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@Video_Game_King: yea I remember when I bought that game and opened it up and thinking"Damn,now this is some ghetto ass shit",lol
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@AgentJ: 
PS1 compatibility is done in software so was unrelated to removing the PS2 hardware. That's also how the PSP emulates it. They even put up new PS1 games on the PlayStation Store weekly. And if PS2 emulation is ever added back, it will almost surely be via software as well.

I don't know the count of games that are announced more than two years before release, but I can say with confidence that it's not "most". Especially if you're not only considering larger titles.

Also, I see you're a fan of the Sly Cooper games. So what is it about inFamous that turns you off?
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@Guardian said:
" @AgentJ said:
" @calidan777 said:
" Ok people,you can't use the old "it's a great value because it has a Blu-ray player" line anymore,not when Wal-Mart is selling Blu-ray players for $98.That line worked when they were like $1000,but not any more. "
Hrm, if that is the case, it almost seems like if I was really interested in Blu Ray movies (which I absolutely am not) and wanted to play PS2 games, I'd just skip the PS3. Anyways, it's just not worth it to me. I respect that Liquid Prince and others found it worthwhile, but I don't see it so.  "
ok, your not getting a PS3. the end.  
 
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" @AgentJ said:
" @LiquidPrince said:
" Well people can't complain about the price anymore. For $300 you're getting a PS3 AND the best Blu-ray player on the market. "
You do realize for someone that doesn't want to go out and buy all his movies again, that isn't really a benefit? I'm only saying that I'm waiting until the PS3 catches up in the two areas it's lagging behind its competition in. Is that too much to ask? "
You don't have to go and rebuy them... It is a DVD player too. It's a great starting pont for people to start getting into Blu-ray and when you do, (most people do) then you'll even want to go out and buy some of those classics. Also what are those two areas? BC is non existent on the 360 and what else? "
You forget, AgentJ only buys things to play older software on apparently. So if he were ever to buy a blu-ray player, he would just use DVDs.  "
Actually, that's about right. I have a lot of catching up to do (though to be fair I have played most of my current gen games already)
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@calidan777 said:

" Ok people,you can't use the old "it's a great value because it has a Blu-ray player" line anymore,not when Wal-Mart is selling Blu-ray players for $98.That line worked when they were like $1000,but not anymore. "

 Except that's not a Profile 2.0 player. I wouldn't be surprised if it also loaded much slower.
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@Kamasama said:
" @AgentJ: PS1 compatibility is done in software so was unrelated to removing the PS2 hardware. That's also how the PSP emulates it. They even put up new PS1 games on the PlayStation Store weekly. And if PS2 emulation is ever added back, it will almost surely be via software as well.I don't know the count of games that are announced more than two years before release, but I can say with confidence that it's not "most". Especially if you're not only considering larger titles.Also, I see you're a fan of the Sly Cooper games. So what is it about inFamous that turns you off? "
I wouldn't say I'm a fan yet, just that they look interesting and that i'd like to play them. The thing about Infamous is that in videos it looks like a reskinned third person shooter, and I don't think i'm going to have all that much fun with shooting lightning bolts out of my hands over and over again. I was legitimately excited when I first heard about it, but If there was a game that I would present as one that looks boring to me, it'd be Infamous. I'll certainly give it the time of day if i get a hold of it, but the excitement I had for it got killed months ago. 
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$300 is a good deal for people with no next gen consoles imo but sub-$200 is a better deal for people like me who already have a 360 there just arent that many exclusives that are AAA OMG must play which is why i am holding off my purchase for ps3 until next year when God of War 3 or Persona 5(endurance run lol) comes out.

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@Kamasama: I'm not saying that the $98 one at Wal-Mart is the same quality as the one that's in the PS3,what I'm saying is that you can get a Blu-ray player for under $100 now and therefore makes the fact that the PS3 has one built-in less impressive.
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@tactis said:
" $300 isnt a good for people with no next gen consoles imo but sub-$200 is a better deal for people like me who already have a 360 there just arent that many exclusives that are AAA OMG must play which is why i am holding off my purchase for ps3 until next year when God of War 3 or Persona 5(endurance run lol) comes out. "
Frankly, I kind of doubt (unless the PS3 starts to make major headway in japan) that Persona 5 will be on the PS3, at least exclusively. The last 2 SMT games have been on the DS, including the newest main game in the series, and Persona 1 and 3 are being remade on the PSP, so I wouldn't be suprised if it hit a handheld. alternatively, PS3 and 360 are selling about the same in Japan these days, so It wouldn't be a suprise to see it hit both, and since most of the big JRPGs (monster hunter, dragon quest) are coming exclusively to the wii now, that wouldn't be a big shock either. And since the PS2 still has the highest attache rate after all this time, they may go retro.
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$299, with 120gb, and bluray, seems pretty good to me. compared to an elite, which doesn't have blu... imo

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I LAUGH when I hear people complain about the lack of exclusives on the PS3. It has more than the 360 does.

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@calidan777: There are plenty of Profile 2.0 players cheaper than PS3s as well, and choosing a comparable one would have supported your point better. It being the best standalone player for the price has not been true for a while; you wouldn't buy a PS3 just for that capability. If someone wants a Profile 2.0 player then the one you linked doesn't factor into the decision. I guess I wasn't taking your quote literally because I thought you were taking liberties with the common argument. Would you prefer "it's a great value because it is also a quality Blu-ray player"?
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@TheJollyRajah: It's all about perception,since most multiplatform games sell better on 360,alot of the more casual 360 owners don't even know that alot of the games they are playing are available on PS3 as well.I've met a ton of people who thought that the Call of Duty games (especially Modern Warfare) was only on 360.
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@TheJollyRajah said:
" I LAUGH when I hear people complain about the lack of exclusives on the PS3. It has more than the 360 does. "
I'm not complaining about a lack of exclusives in comparison with the 360 (since I'm not even sure that I have a 360 exclusive other than Mass Effect. Is Dead rising on the PS3?) . The fact is though that I got a 360 at 200 dollars with a hard drive and extra controller, which is far cheaper than what I would have got a PS3 for, and that PS3 would not have been able to play the PS2 games I wanted, so to buy it just to play the few games I mentioned wouldn't have been worth it to me. 
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@Karmann said:
" $299, with 120gb, and bluray, seems pretty good to me. compared to an elite, which doesn't have blu... imo "
Except I'd never use the bluray, and I haven't even used 10 gigs yet, so the 20 gig I have will be more than enough. 
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@AgentJ: Dead Rising is an exclusive, yes. Although Mass Effect isn't if you count PC.
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@Kamasama said:
" @AgentJ: Dead Rising is an exclusive, yes. Although Mass Effect isn't if you count PC. "
My laptop sputters during CSS and the orange box. I dont think it's playing Mass Effect any time soon. 
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@AgentJ: Sure, I wasn't implying you could. You also couldn't play it on PS3 if it were there too considering you don't have one, but that wouldn't affect its exclusivity. It's just some people don't consider PC when talking about exclusivity, but they should.
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@Kamasama said:
" @AgentJ: Sure, I wasn't implying you could. You also couldn't play it on PS3 if it were there too considering you don't have one, but that wouldn't affect its exclusivity. It's just some people don't consider PC when talking about exclusivity, but they should. "
Fair enough, but computers are just too complicated for me.Thats the main reason why I dont tend to consider it. People say its so easy, but... i don't know...
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@AgentJ said:
" @Karmann said:
" $299, with 120gb, and bluray, seems pretty good to me. compared to an elite, which doesn't have blu... imo "
Except I'd never use the bluray, and I haven't even used 10 gigs yet, so the 20 gig I have will be more than enough.  "

 
@AgentJ:  well good for you, but it's still good value, and useful for a lot of people.
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Personally, I can understand the space argument, but I don't really understand why those who have just bought a PS2 would then want the PS3 to play PS2 games when they've just bought a PS2 that's perfectly capable of playing PS2 games. Lots of repeated phrases in there but you get my drift.
 
I guess people will always push the Playstation 3 away. That's fine. Sony won't introduce backwards compatibility while the PS2 is still holding its own in terms of sales. It wouldn't make sense to them.
 
When PS2 is dead, expect BC.
 
The argument of no games and too expensive is now defunct, BC or no BC. It's up to the customers discretion whether they want a PS3 or not (who am I to tell people want to think) but there are enough games to justify the price.

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I am doubting that the US price will migrate its way to Australia.  On current exchange, $299 US is $370 Aus.  We currently pay $700 Aus, which is about  $580 US.  I am assuming the US pays less than $580 for the current PS3.   
 
$299 US would be my entry into the PS3 if that was near what I had to pay.  I still want BC and I could care less what others think.  My PS2 collection is still actively played and it would be convenient  to have it all in one machine.  However, it isn't a deal breaker.  The region aspect is the big seller for me.

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Just reading on Gamespot that the Australian version will retail at $499.  Not happy, but not surprised.  That is $410 US, or $110 US more than in the US.  So, no, I won't be getting a PS3 this year, or next probably.

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I have no doubt that sales will skyrocket this holidays and the PS3 will also destroy the Wii in Japan when Tales of Versperia, Persona 5 and FF XIII come out, they will buy the game bundled with the console (the ones that still don't own it) and that will close the gap between the PS3 and the 360, just watch the amazing Dragon Quest IX sales. Once the japanese PS3 installbase grow enough, a lot of exclusive JRPGS are going to be announced and a sort of "snowball" will start in Japan, more JRPGS, more Japanese going bananas, more sales.

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@oldschool said:
" Just reading on Gamespot that the Australian version will retail at $499.  Not happy, but not surprised.  That is $410 US, or $110 US more than in the US.  So, no, I won't be getting a PS3 this year, or next probably. "
wtf  
How the fuck can it cost 110$ ?   
I mean could someone explain why?
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I think $300 is a fine price for a Ps3, considering it's half as cheap than the Ps3's at launch.

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a 300$ bluray player? that also plays ps3 exclusives? im in!
here in Venezuela, a ps3 could cost up to 550$ (3000bsf) from the offiial sony store....
i will just import one slim from the US.
 

my 360 RROD last week, i will not buy a 360 again until elite cost 250$ and comes bundled with natal (2011)

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@AgentJ said:
" @Fallen189 said:
" I own a 360 but when I have a PC, I barely even acknowledge it. I use it for HD remix, when I'm feeling fighty. Otherwise, my PC does everything my xbox does and more :(  Also you are a loon. "
A... Loon?  I'm sure the PC would be great, but I get so frustrated with them, even with just steam "
Ya, you cant come into PC gaming expecting a cakewalk, but its rewarding, Steam streamlines everything, but even then, i cant even get Valve's games to work without an hour or two of tweaking. I still enjoy PC gaming, if i ever get an HD console, maybe my mind will change. 
 
And ya, your a total loon..... im just messing, or am i?
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well I Know its the sweet spot for me, this has been the price IVe been waiting for on PS3 and now when the slim releases I am definetly buying it.
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The exclusives are not compelling enough for me, and Blue Ray isn't that interesting to me.

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to all people saying "BC does not matter"
 
it matters to me and no amount of "DURR PLEH UR PS2" will change that.
 
People have payed alot more for convenience on other things in life and i would pay 299 for a console (that was supposed to in the first place) that meets all my needs.

This is my money and i have a choice and i choose not to just rush out and get a ps3 because its cheaper.
 
NO BC NO SALE.
 
Remember when PS3 was announced?
 
Kaz - With the entire back catalogue of ps2 games that will work on the PS3, The ps3 is the best looking system for games and home entertainment this generation

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I have a ps2, 360, good PC, and wii 
 
I dont think I need another console, especially when im saving for college
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While I agree, I wish the PS3 had BC, we must look at it from a sony perspective. They can still sell PS2 for $100, but giving the PS3 the same ability adds cost to the PS3 and cuts into PS2 sales.

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@AgentJ said:
" @Video_Game_King said:
" @calidan777 said:
" @Video_Game_King: That was messed up how they had all the discs just kinda thrown into the game box on Lost Odyssey,lol "
The worst part was that they kept the fourth disc in a crappy paper sleeve. The only thing that could have topped that would be leaving it in there without support, the only justification being a note saying, "Hey, you're gonna have one disc in the 360, anyway, so..." "
I accept the multiple disc arguement as a valid one. I guess I'm lucky enough not to have bought a multiple disc game yet.  "
Go and buy Lost Odyssey. Good game, but crap packaging. I only hope that this has taught Square how to do FF13 properly. (And yes, I just realized that Square did not make that game, but since Sakaguchi and Uematsu were behind it, I declare "close enough.")
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I agree 100% with this post. Im a 360 and a PS2 owner, which I bought as soon as the slim one came out, so when i heard about the price drop and the slim version of the PS3 I naturally thought "Hey, why not". That was until I took another few minutes to remember that the PS3 has maybe 10 exclusive QUALITY games and I cant even sell my PS2 and play those games on it. Honestly, once I started thinking about it I truely realized how pathetic the PS3 really is. For me and prbly a lot of other gamers, the PS3 is just a good way to get a blu ray player that just so happens to have the capability to play games. Seriously, can someone give me 10 games....I only want 10 games on the PS3 that are exclusive AND actually good. Also, dont try and tell me that Little Big Planet and Killzone are amazing games. If Killzone would have come out on the 360 it most likely would have died in the wake of all the other shooters that are much better than Killzone, and when it comes to Little Big Planet.......c'mon seriously? Little Big Planet is just a glorified version of a mario game that's fun for about an hour, and is usually played by people that are high because the game just makes them laugh. So someone give me your list.....I'll help you by starting it for you. 
 
Infamous.................
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The PS3 is the best thing i've plugged on my HDTV period. And i own all consoles and a pretty decent pc.

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I say it barely passes the 360 on the NPD's. It will sell more, but not a whole lot. 50k maybe. We all know it won't approach the Wii.

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@KazHirai said:
" Yes ofcourse it is the fuckin sweet spot. Don't fuck with me unless you're Jack or Ken. -Kaz Hirai CEO of Sony Entertainment Japan     "
I love people like you. 
 
I remember the BillGates gametrailers account...
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@m1k3 said:
" @Valkyr said:
" @MB said:
" I agree with Diamond. $199 is what I think the low-end SKU's for consoles should be at, with $150 being the price where I buy it no matter how little interest I have in it. "
The problem with the PS3 is that there is no "low-end" SKU, all of them have an HDD, wi-fi and bluetooth, if only Sony had told developers not to add mandatory installs they could release a 199 HDDless PS3. A few months ago we didn't know if the price cut was going to be this year or if it was a 50 o 100 bucks cut, it ended up being this year and the ps3 is now 299, please stop asking, 299 is an awesome price for an awesome platform, the console that is now a bit overpriced is the Wii. "
There are games that dont do mandatory installs. And its not like an HDD for the ps3 is expensive, a 120gb HDD for the ps3 is around $60 while for the 360, MS is asking $150 for their 120gb. I remember paying like $500 for my elite and $600 for my ps3 both worth it. "

But the fact that there are some, like MGS4 is enough to require the HDD on all of them.  Though i hardly believe that increases the price on the PS3 much.  The xbox 360 should be down at 250 with a HDD.  299 is a good price, but its not enough for the PS3 at this point.  Before it was the cheapest and best blu ray player, this coming holiday season, its just not true anymore.  The PS2 was successful because of the games, not the DVD player.  And right now, the PS3 is the last platform to be thought of by developers, which kind of sucks sometimes.  The multiplatform titles are usually better on the 360 because of Live or the graphics.  The kids titles and movie tie ins sell better on the Wii or 360.  The Wii has so many of these crappy cheap games, but they used to have their home on the PS2 the last generation.  The PS3 to me has become this generations gamecube.  I love them both but its disappointing at times.
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@get2sammyb said:
" Personally, I can understand the space argument, but I don't really understand why those who have just bought a PS2 would then want the PS3 to play PS2 games when they've just bought a PS2 that's perfectly capable of playing PS2 games. Lots of repeated phrases in there but you get my drift.  I guess people will always push the Playstation 3 away. That's fine. Sony won't introduce backwards compatibility while the PS2 is still holding its own in terms of sales. It wouldn't make sense to them.  When PS2 is dead, expect BC.  The argument of no games and too expensive is now defunct, BC or no BC. It's up to the customers discretion whether they want a PS3 or not (who am I to tell people want to think) but there are enough games to justify the price. "
Come now, are you saying you'd pay 300 dollars for only a few games that you want? I can already get most of the games on the console, and I've already listed the games i'd buy for the console if I had one. It's not a long list. Not to mention that I dont want to have FOUR consoles under my TV. three is pushing as far as space goes as it is.  I'd be able to sell my PS2 and buy another couple games. I dont know why I feel like I need to justify this to you, but considering I've never spent as much as 300 dollars on a console, it takes a really convincing product to make me want it. It's almost there, but if it had BC it'd be over the top.  
@addictedtopinescent said:
" @oldschool said:
" Just reading on Gamespot that the Australian version will retail at $499.  Not happy, but not surprised.  That is $410 US, or $110 US more than in the US.  So, no, I won't be getting a PS3 this year, or next probably. "
wtf  How the fuck can it cost 110$ ?   I mean could someone explain why? "
NO no, it costs 110 MORE there than what we have to pay for it.  
@Urmean said:
" I think $300 is a fine price for a Ps3, considering it's half as cheap than the Ps3's at launch. "
that logic seems kind of flawed. If it had started at 2000 the way it was, would 1000 be a fine price? 
@Zabant said:
" to all people saying "BC does not matter"  it matters to me and no amount of "DURR PLEH UR PS2" will change that.   People have payed alot more for convenience on other things in life and i would pay 299 for a console (that was supposed to in the first place) that meets all my needs. This is my money and i have a choice and i choose not to just rush out and get a ps3 because its cheaper.  NO BC NO SALE.  Remember when PS3 was announced?  Kaz - With the entire back catalogue of ps2 games that will work on the PS3, The ps3 is the best looking system for games and home entertainment this generation "
i agree. Since I haven't payed as much as that for any console in my life (i'm struggling to think of a single thing that i've spent that much on) It'd better have more than 3-5 games and a blu ray player i won't use. I'm not asking for a price cut, I'm asking for a feature that in this day and age we should expect our consoles to have.  
@Whisperkill said:
" I have a ps2, 360, good PC, and wii  I dont think I need another console, especially when im saving for college "
Smart guy! That's my setup too. @super_machine said:
" While I agree, I wish the PS3 had BC, we must look at it from a sony perspective. They can still sell PS2 for $100, but giving the PS3 the same ability adds cost to the PS3 and cuts into PS2 sales. "
So they WANT the PS2 to cannibalize the PS3? That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense to me. 
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" @Video_Game_King: That was messed up how they had all the discs just kinda thrown into the game box on Lost Odyssey,lol "
The worst part was that they kept the fourth disc in a crappy paper sleeve. The only thing that could have topped that would be leaving it in there without support, the only justification being a note saying, "Hey, you're gonna have one disc in the 360, anyway, so..." "
I accept the multiple disc arguement as a valid one. I guess I'm lucky enough not to have bought a multiple disc game yet.  "
Go and buy Lost Odyssey. Good game, but crap packaging. I only hope that this has taught Square how to do FF13 properly. (And yes, I just realized that Square did not make that game, but since Sakaguchi and Uematsu were behind it, I declare "close enough.") "
On this note, which of these JRPGs that has come out for the 360 do i want more? Lost Odyssey, or Unfinite Undiscovery? 
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I agree 100% with this post. Im a 360 and a PS2 owner, which I bought as soon as the slim one came out, so when i heard about the price drop and the slim version of the PS3 I naturally thought "Hey, why not". That was until I took another few minutes to remember that the PS3 has maybe 10 exclusive QUALITY games and I cant even sell my PS2 and play those games on it. Honestly, once I started thinking about it I truely realized how pathetic the PS3 really is. For me and prbly a lot of other gamers, the PS3 is just a good way to get a blu ray player that just so happens to have the capability to play games. Seriously, can someone give me 10 games....I only want 10 games on the PS3 that are exclusive AND actually good. Also, dont try and tell me that Little Big Planet and Killzone are amazing games. If Killzone would have come out on the 360 it most likely would have died in the wake of all the other shooters that are much better than Killzone, and when it comes to Little Big Planet.......c'mon seriously? Little Big Planet is just a glorified version of a mario game that's fun for about an hour, and is usually played by people that are high because the game just makes them laugh. So someone give me your list.....I'll help you by starting it for you.  Infamous................. "
There are plenty of high quality exclusives, like the ratchet and clank series and such. You only need to type in "top ten PS3 exclusives" to find your answer. Unfortunately for me many of those dont appeal to me. 
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@addictedtopinescent said:
" @oldschool said:
" Just reading on Gamespot that the Australian version will retail at $499.  Not happy, but not surprised.  That is $410 US, or $110 US more than in the US.  So, no, I won't be getting a PS3 this year, or next probably. "
wtf  How the fuck can it cost 110$ ?   I mean could someone explain why? "
NO no, it costs 110 MORE there than what we have to pay for it.    
Yes, I know, I just fucked up when asking the question  
I want to know how the fuck can it cost that much more then over here ? 
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@addictedtopinescent said:
" @AgentJ said:

@addictedtopinescent said:
" @oldschool said:
" Just reading on Gamespot that the Australian version will retail at $499.  Not happy, but not surprised.  That is $410 US, or $110 US more than in the US.  So, no, I won't be getting a PS3 this year, or next probably. "
wtf  How the fuck can it cost 110$ ?   I mean could someone explain why? "
NO no, it costs 110 MORE there than what we have to pay for it.    
Yes, I know, I just fucked up when asking the question  I want to know how the fuck can it cost that much more then over here ?  "
Its Australia. They get jipped on pricing all the time. You should ask how much games are for Old School. I'll tell ya: It's not pretty. 
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I think $299 is a decent price for it. It certainly makes the Wii and the PSP Go seem way overpriced. That being said, I think they should have done this last holiday. But $299 is totally worth it if there are a few exclusive you feel you've been/will be missing out on. 
 
Also, for those who are gonna be grabbing a PS3 slim, don't forget about Valkyria Chronicles. If you like the genre at all (or want to try something different), that game is an instant classic.

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" @AgentJ: Yeah it's all relative. $150 isn't exactly a lot of money. "
It is to me! I could buy two tacos at Jack in the Box 140 times a year with that money! I could buy 10-15 used games! "
$150 is half a pay check for a 16 year old, working 20 hours a week making minimum wage (a.k.a. me). "
So i'm stingy. Sue me. (I don't have a full time job, mostly because it would affect my grades. Some people can do college and work simultaneously. I don't think i could. I just make the pittance I do working for the newspaper) "
Same here. 16 year old senior, sports editor for the school newspaper and balance a job, allowing time to play games and keep my social life. It's all about balance man. You're going to have to learn how to balance more than one thing eventually. Might as well start now. "
1. You are a 16 year old senior. Most people will never be as driven as you. 2. I'll be fine once college is over.  But enough talking about me. The PS3 needs BC! "
Driven, or a child prodige! But seriously, I'm not very driven. Just blessed with an incredibly hard work ethic and ability to learn. I skipped sixth grade, but things are pretty damn hard now. Takes practice.
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"Driven, or a child prodige! But seriously, I'm not very driven. Just blessed with an incredibly hard work ethic and ability to learn. I skipped sixth grade, but things are pretty damn hard now. Takes practice. "
My youngest skipped grade 1 and at half way through year 9, her grades would give her a pass at the end of year 10, and as it is, she will likely enter University 6 months before she is 18.  She isn't particularly driven either.  It isn't relevant, I just wanted to brag  :-) 
 
@AgentJ said:
" @addictedtopinescent said:
" @AgentJ said:

@addictedtopinescent said:
" @oldschool said:
" Just reading on Gamespot that the Australian version will retail at $499.  Not happy, but not surprised.  That is $410 US, or $110 US more than in the US.  So, no, I won't be getting a PS3 this year, or next probably. "
wtf  How the fuck can it cost 110$ ?   I mean could someone explain why? "
NO no, it costs 110 MORE there than what we have to pay for it.    
Yes, I know, I just fucked up when asking the question  I want to know how the fuck can it cost that much more then over here ?  "
Its Australia. They get jipped on pricing all the time. You should ask how much games are for Old School. I'll tell ya: It's not pretty.  "
It isn't so much that it is Australia, rather, it is Sony.  I remember doing the currency exchange thing and finding that at one point, Australia was paying less for a 360 than the Americans were (it is a little higher now).  Microsoft could do it, but not Sony - the PS3 was $830 US when released and currently $580 US.  A Wii or a 360 Pro will cost you $330 US.  On those currernt prices, the PS3 as a gaming device, is not worth $250 US more than a Wii or 360.  That is why I am not a PS3 owner - Sony is gouging profits out of us and I will not reward them. 
 
Oh, and games are $120 when released (not all, some are $100 or $110) and that is $100 US.  Which is why I import when possible.  Keep in mind, relativity applies as Asutralians earn more than Americans in our dollars.  My casual staff (merchandisers) earn $24 an hour for fairly simple work and that is $20 US, which is a lot more than your minimum wage (about $6 US I assume).
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Maybe in your country, but in Europe the only sweet spot Sony recognise is our assholes has they fuck them over and over again.
€299 still, we get no price cut

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Do you mean G spot?

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I just noticed that the PS3 once again is one of the cheaper multimedia blu-ray players out there. lol

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@oldschool said:
" @choffy21 said:
"Driven, or a child prodige! But seriously, I'm not very driven. Just blessed with an incredibly hard work ethic and ability to learn. I skipped sixth grade, but things are pretty damn hard now. Takes practice. "
My youngest skipped grade 1 and at half way through year 9, her grades would give her a pass at the end of year 10, and as it is, she will likely enter University 6 months before she is 18.  She isn't particularly driven either.  It isn't relevant, I just wanted to brag  :-) 
Me too. When I leave for college, I'll be 17 years, 7 months old (was born January 7, 1993).
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It hasn't reached the sweet spot for me either... 
 
There aren't enough games it makes me want to buy one. 
 
Maybe when the ps3 cycle is ending i'll get one... possibly cheaper.
 
Not now.