Haha i think we can only dream about some of those characters making an appearance, mostly the ones who have never appeared on a nintendo platform. A good portion of those I could see in future Smash Brothers titles, we need Sigurd in with the Fire Emblem characters though.
" Haha i think we can only dream about some of those characters making an appearance, mostly the ones who have never appeared on a nintendo platform. A good portion of those I could see in future Smash Brothers titles, we need Sigurd in with the Fire Emblem characters though. "
I'm glad you liked the list! It is based on a series of blogs I did earlier this year, so if you want to see more info detailing my thought process and many, MANY alternate costumes, you should click here.  I'll take a look at Sigurd.
lol you had it pretty good at the begining of the list but around when you said cloud should be in it i thought it got a bit carried on XDÂ Â however nice list. microsoft and sony really need to do something like smash bros too. it would be pretty sick :3
" Amaterasu is perfect for SSB. But Akari Hayami? Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Wave race character in Smash but how would that work? "
normal B could be a swing of her board, smash b could have her chuck a snowball, up B could have her jump one of her extreme sports tools, and down b could see her smash into opponents on her wave bike Wario style. just suggestions off the top of my head. Perhaps her final smash could be flashing the screen?
A lot of those are long-shots in my opinion but Klonoa, Simon Belmont, and Megaman could be good possiblities. I would suppose that Nintendo would allow only one character per third party company. But Konami already has Snake; I would love to see Belmont in there. But my top character would have to be King K. Rool because the heavyweight class needs some more characters.
Hey, I was creating a list like this myself when I found yours. I'ts very diverse, i'll give it that, but a few of those characters, as someone previously said, are pretty farfetched and won't have much of a chance to make it into the next game. I like how you included a lot of people's ideas, but a few simply won't work.  Overall, nice list! I recommend it solely for you including a lot of ideas and possibilities. If you want to see some of my suggestions, they'll be in the list i'm making.
" Hey, I was creating a list like this myself when I found yours. I'ts very diverse, i'll give it that, but a few of those characters, as someone previously said, are pretty farfetched and won't have much of a chance to make it into the next game. I like how you included a lot of people's ideas, but a few simply won't work.  Overall, nice list! I recommend it solely for you including a lot of ideas and possibilities. If you want to see some of my suggestions, they'll be in the list i'm making. "
Most of the ones in the 3rd party list weren't inserted with any real hope of actually being in the game (though recent crossovers like MVC3 and tatsunoko make me hopeful) but seemed like fun characters to put in the game. If you like this, you should check out some of my early blog posts. I did write-ups on each of the characters on the list, with some extra special goodies. Also, I've had a friend working on a character roster with all of these for quite a while now. He says he'll be done by the end of the month, so stay tuned.Â
At first I thought this was a serious list... then I went to the second page and saw Gordon Freeman and Master Chief. Â As fucking AWESOME as that would be to clobber dudes with a crowbar I highly doubt that Hal Studios could get the rights to these characters. Â Â Â Anything from Advance Wars would be hella sweet though... Â Â Â Edit: Â No Revolver Ocelot? Cmon... imagine how cool it would be to juggle 3 six shooters and take dudes out with that move...
" At first I thought this was a serious list... then I went to the second page and saw Gordon Freeman and Master Chief. Â As fucking AWESOME as that would be to clobber dudes with a crowbar I highly doubt that Hal Studios could get the rights to these characters. Â Â Â Anything from Advance Wars would be hella sweet though... Â Â Â Edit: Â No Revolver Ocelot? Cmon... imagine how cool it would be to juggle 3 six shooters and take dudes out with that move... "
If you click on the link at the top of the list, you can take a look at my thought process when putting the list together, along with bios and some other goodies. It explains why there isn't any Ocelot.  Wouldn't Gordon be so fun though?
Wow.  I am speechless.  Seriously?  This list is terrible and is beyond implausibility.  What is your reasoning behind some of these choices, "Because it would be cool?"  What are you, fucking 10?  Admittedly there are a few good choices here and there,  but even a broken clock is right  twice a day. And thats what you are, a very broken clock. Third party characters (for the most part)  are like your ideas... bullshit. I hope you can read this post not as an insult, (well OK it is an insult.) but as constructive criticism. Now please go die in a fire.
Two things.  1. Ash is NOT a Nintendo character, it would make more sense if you used Red.  2.  Even if these characters were to make it, half of the roster would be just clones.
" Two things. 1. Ash is NOT a Nintendo character, it would make more sense if you used Red.  2.  Even if these characters were to make it, half of the roster would be just clones. "
I did an entire blog series on this here on Giantbomb. For my thoughts on ash and clones in general, click on over.Â
I second Rasumii! I'd like to see more characters from the Kingdom Hearts series. Reasons for me saying this is because of Kindom Hearts: Chain of Memories (Gameboy), Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 days (Nintendo DS), and the latest release, Kingdom Hearts: ReCoded (DSi [i think] ). But it's pretty cool for Cloud to be in this list. I question Aminal Crossing characters being playable, though. even if they would be in the game, how would that work?
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Could you add Buizel plz? Don't think of me as wierd. i like that pokemon :)
I second Rasumii! I'd like to see more characters from the Kingdom Hearts series. Reasons for me saying this is because of Kindom Hearts: Chain of Memories (Gameboy), Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 days (Nintendo DS), and the latest release, Kingdom Hearts: ReCoded (DSi [i think] ). But it's pretty cool for Cloud to be in this list. I question Aminal Crossing characters being playable, though. even if they would be in the game, how would that work?
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Could you add Buizel plz? Don't think of me as wierd. i like that pokemon :)
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Playing Kingdom Hearts for the first time right now, so he may be added very soon, depending on my impressions :P
As for the Buizel/Animal Crossing questions, why don't you go ahead and take a look over at my BLOG series on the subject. I talk a little bit about the chances each character has along with my personal preferences for how they would be integrated into the Smash Bros world. @darkriku999 said:
" @AgentJSucks:Â jeez, dude. that's harsh... "
Lol, if you don't have someone making faux accounts to discredit you on Giantbomb, you aren't doing things right. He has an opinion just like everyone, and if he wants to hide behind a new account to do so, then thats his prerogative :P
You seem to have a ton of swordusing Link/Marth-like characters which is a really long shot. And you could add to them with Kain, Raziel, Elder Scrolls characters like "Hero" and Dremora Lord. But you seem to lack scifi characters, someone from Mass Effect or Dead Space or Fallout or Bionic Commando or something else could be a great character. Shepards Biotics, Isaacs engineertool, Falloutboys all gear and powers and Spencer's arm could do all sorts of attacks.  But someone rather unique who could fit in would be Big Daddy from Bioshock. There aren't too many big tank characters, Daddies are amongst the most iconic this gen characters and they could have really cool moves.  - Rivet gun and proximity mines as the most basic attack - Shock, Incrediate, Swarm, Security Bullseye, Decoy and Frost could be the plasmid powers And a right-timed barrier should unleash a electric shock defence wave. - Little sister could be somehow included useful as well sitting on Daddy's shoulder. Maybe she could scream (as a move maybe Final Smash) boosting up Daddy's abilities or throw adam around, or jump on the enemies neck stabbing or blinding them. Or maybe they could be a pair like Ice Climbers. Sister wanders on her own doing minor damage with her spike and Daddy has to protect her or his powers will drastically decrease.  I mean who doesn't want to see Samus or Bowser facing a Big Daddy? The only problem is that he should be turned into more comical rather horrofying character to make him family friendly but looking at Snake in Brawl I don't think that will be much of proble. Just don't make him use that drill to splat someone.
hmm silver, metal sonic, shadow, Rayman!!, pac-man (From pac man worlds2?) and ge... wait a minute NO GENO????!!!!!!!! why even make this if there is no geno in it ?!!!!
This seems like a RIDICULOUS number of characters. Gonna note any new ones I actually recognize...
Vaati: Probably the character I'd choose if I wanted another character from Legend of Zelda. Not sure how this game would handle legitimate spellcasting characters, though; I'd want him to be way more spell-focused than anyone in game right now.
Ridley: If he were size-appropriate, we'd be getting to the Tatsunoko vs. Capcom situation where one character is the equivalent of two others. Ridley's gotta be a Giga-Bowser type ordeal to work, which means he's way too heavy to ever knock off stage. Also, he's never really had many definitive moves, so I'm not sure he'd be one of my top picks.
Krystal: No personal experience with the character, but I think the three Star Fox they have now covers it.
Knuckle Joe: Just not definitive enough to justify a fighting game appearance. Most of his moves have just been adapted into Kirby's main moveset, effectively making him a Kirby clone with an uppercut. Wait...okay, this may have just become awesome again.
Dixie Kong: Not interested at all in this choice, but I was also super-disappointed with Diddy's moveset in Brawl.
King K. Rool: Yeah, this series needs more playable villain characters. However, tanks seem rarely viable in this series, with Ganon and Bowser being so low-tier. Always been unsure if DK is a glass cannon or a tank in Smash, but I'm guessing glass cannon.
Ninten: I see no reason to implement this character; he's just another moveset for Ness at best and will confuse a LOT of people. Waste of a character slot if they ever include him.
Lyn: We have two sword users from Fire Emblem in Smash already; rather than Lyn, why not have the coolest lord of all of Fire Emblem, Hector? An axe moveset would be SICK, and we all know Hector was way more powerful than Lyn or Eliwood (or, hell, ANYONE FROM THAT FIRE EMBLEM) to begin with. Alternatively, I'd take Sigurd, as there's at least an absurd amount of fan love for him.
Andy: I lose the sense of justification on this one. What does he do? Hit people with wrenches and call in troops? Then again, I was a naysayer for Olimar, and...well, I still hate his moveset.
Tom Nook: Again, I never understood why people wanted Tom Nook beating dudes up. He runs a store! What's next, Nurse Joy?
Agent J: Okay, Elite Beat Agents stuff might be kind of awesome.
Ryuuta Ipongi: Pick one or the other, though.
Felix: I always preferred Isaac, even though he was a blank slate. Felix was a bit too angsty for me, to the point where I actually never finished the second Golden Sun.
Alex: While I've always thought he's had the coolest character design in the series, I'd much rather see Saturos or Menardi as they're just WAY more powerful (and therefore have more powers.)
Akira Hayami: A Wave Racer? Now you're just being silly.
Little Mac: Absolutely. Who doesn't want a little Dudley clone running around Smash Bros! Legitimately cool.
Tails: FFFFFF-
Knuckles: A waste, but more interesting than TAILS. He'd at least be another glider, and he has some punches and stuff that aren't literally just Sonic. Unless you were talking about the mech with Tails, but those were the worst thing that happened to Sonic ever. Except the Werehog.
Robotnik: ...no.
Raiden: He was never on a Nintendo platform. Ever. He would be pretty cool, though.
Megaman: Kind of, except I hated playing as Megaman and punching dudes in MvC2, and I know it'd happen again in this.
Bomberman: Kind of a one trick pony, isn't he?
Viewtiful Joe: Well, he was SUPER AWESOME in MvC3, but I doubt he'll be crossing into Smash Bros. any time soon for that exact reason.
Simon Belmont: Sure! Whips would be cool! I'll take CastleVania characters in a fighting game! Oh, wait...
Alucard: I feel like he'd feel like Marth in a lot of ways, though he'd actually be a great Marth counter.
Rayman: Yeah, I dig it. Not sure what his specials would be, but I haven't played enough Rayman to tell you.
Phoenix Wright: He's been confirmed in UMvC3, so I doubt he's crossing over. I also detest the idea. The man is a LAWYER.
Lara Croft: Even if she's appeared on Nintendo consoles, this feels like including Spyro the Dragon or Crash Bandicoot and somehow wrong.
Leon S. Kennedy: The Resident Evil characters will never be coming over, they're definitely just too big a draw for MvC. Also, RE people jumping as much as they do (in either SSB or MvC!) seems crazy if you're not Wesker.
Banjo & Kazooie: They're owned by Rare and Rare's owned by Microsoft. This would cost WAY too much money. Would be a cool character, though.
All them Final Fantasy characters: I think they'd play too much like the Fire Emblem characters.
Master Chief: ...I'm quitting for this one. I was trying to finish this, but now you're just peeing on my chest with your choices. How could I write a reasoned response for this one? He'd be TERRIBLE in the SSB model, he's exclusive...I'm hoping this is a joke list, but now I'm totally out.
@Little_Socrates: Its unfortunate, but you seem to have largely missed the point of this list. I'm well aware that more than half of these have nearly no chance to actually be in the game. Master Chief is... unlikely, to say the least. But can you honestly not imagine any way that he would work in the SSB world? Chucking stickey grenades, firing plasma weapons, and of course regular 'ol punching and kicking. He's probably a better fit than Snake was.   You also seem to think that, because some of these characters are in MvC, that they can't be in the next SSB. I find that to be patently false; indeed, Mega Man and Ryu, at least in my opinion, have a darn good shot to make it in.   I did a whole blog series on my reasoning behind the inclusion of these characters, which can be found here.  Tale a looksie, and tell me what you think again.Â
@AgentJ: The list seems to just be a big pile of characters who MIGHT be cool without much thought given to whether or not they'd effectively be reskins of other characters or if they'd actually be fun to play. Master Chief WOULD be a better fit than Snake; I cried foul when I played Snake for the first time in Brawl, though, so Master Chief is still incredibly unappealing to me for this series. Guns and SSB just don't mix very well, and Master Chief mostly uses machine guns. It'd be like having the Super Scope all the time, only more patently annoying.
The "individual blogs" themselves don't actually justify why the character could appear, only why they deserve to be included and the "likelihood" you think they would actually appear. Nintendo had a hard time getting Geno, a character who only appears in Mario games, to appear because Square technically holds his license for creation.
You seem to misunderstand the dual reasons third-party characters can appear in a Super Smash Bros. game. One of those is that Nintendo paid LOTS of money for them to appear, that being the reason they only managed to license two of the possible three third-party characters. With your current list, Nintendo would probably go bankrupt two or three times; to license five of those characters might be a stretch on their "always make a profit" routine, depending on the characters.
The other reason those specific characters appeared is because Konami and Sega decided it would increase their character's (and respective series) popularity to appear in SSB, which lowers the price for licensing. Snake appeared in the American launch of SSBB just one month before Metal Gear Solid IV launched on the PS3; his inclusion was, effectively, an advertisement. Meanwhile, I think it's pretty well-known that Sonic needed some decent advertisement by '08 after a bad run of games, so it made sense for him to appear.
How much does it increase Capcom's bottom line to get that paycheck and have their characters appear in SSB despite already having a powerful crossover fighting series to begin with? Do they actually lose money on the next Marvel vs. Capcom game because customers "already can play as Megaman/Wesker and don't want to pay for another game where they can do that?" What if the next game is the same boring shlock that Brawl was? Does that tarnish their character brand further, something Megaman probably can't afford? Would putting Ryu in ANOTHER fighting game convince people Capcom was oversaturating the market, possibly affecting sales of games like Street Fighter x Tekken and UMvC3?
For the above reasons, I don't think it's really possible at all for Capcom to get into Super Smash Bros, at least not with hallmark characters like Megaman or Ryu. I could see Viewtiful Joe or Amaterasu getting by because, well, they're never going to make another one of those games again, but even they were powerful "reasons to buy" MvC3.
Can you tell me what the point of this list is if I missed it? I mean, you bothered to include a "likelihood to appear" for all of these characters (I assume) so you at least consider it feasible that at least some of these guys would appear. The first half of the list suffers from a lot of the new characters either being popular without being fighters or from being very near clone characters, and the other half seems to be just throwing together every character you like from video games not made by Nintendo. It seems like the Christmas list I used to make as a ten year old, knowing most of those things were completely impossible and that I probably didn't even want them, but still writing them down to amuse my parents because they were still keeping the Santa thing alive for my brother.
Marina from Mischief makers (nintendo 64). i have been suggesting her since the original smash on 64. she's already 2D, her game nearly plays like a smash bros fight, she'd be the BEST thrower in the entire game along with her ability to grab and throw ANY projectile imaginable as well as her signature "shake shake" technique. i'm sure there is countless filler moves she could be given and her final smash (if they choose to keep those) could totally be a cut scene like those seen after any major boss fight from the game where her gauntlets glow with power and whatever captured foe gets tossed clear across half the planet. (pika piiiiiiiiiiiiiiikaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa). WAAAAAAAY more interesting than just more characters from already incorporated games (though more earthbound is always welcome since nintendo hates you and wont bring anymore earthbound games to america). And I know nintendo is scraping the barrel looking for more nintendo characters so badly that they are going to include capcom characters in the next game (please god leave out viewtiful joe. no one liked him them, and no matter how much you shove him down our throats we will wont like him. he's like vomit, gets worse and worse each time he comes back up...). Also Professor Layton. I don't care how. A true gentlemen leaves no enemies left standing!)
@Little_Socrates: You forgot another totally stupid idea for a character in this game: Kratos. How the Hades would fit this Demigod into the mix? He just got done beating the livin' crap out of Johnny Cage and Raiden! Don't forget the sword fighting game he was in. Kratos is just way too hardcore. SSB is a light game, and having a dude who headbutts minotaurs and slices gorgons in half is just impossible to make into a character like Mario or Luigi. I saw another comment about putting Kain or Raziel from the Legacy of Kain series. Nobody has the right to fuck with them. End of story. I would like to see Dig Dug, though. He may have the same problem as Kratos, though,
At first I thought this was a serious list... then I went to the second page and saw Gordon Freeman and Master Chief. As fucking AWESOME as that would be to clobber dudes with a crowbar I highly doubt that Hal Studios could get the rights to these characters. Anything from Advance Wars would be hella sweet though... Edit: No Revolver Ocelot? Cmon... imagine how cool it would be to juggle 3 six shooters and take dudes out with that move...
Personally I don't think there is such thing as a bad character. Honestly the more the better because yes some may be stronger/faster than others but all in all it adds variety to the game which keeps you playing longer. Something that I would absolutely love to see in the next super smash bros however is the appearence of a group of characters that to me would be absolutely ground breaking. A group of characters that would be so much fun to fight against pokemon. A group of characters that I would absolutely LOVE to see in SSB4.... I am talking about Digimon.
I don't think any RE, 'Street Fighter' nor FF character would make a great deal on SSB, I mean, they're totally cool and all, but I guess not for the SSB =P
Bomberman is very cool too, and he should have been already playable on the Melee version, he's just perfect to the battle show...
I liked the idea of putting chars from 'The World Ends With You', and I think they could act just like Ice Climbers, as in the original game, they couldn't attack unless they make a contract with another ''player''...they'd be like, totally unfair chars there, but who knows??!,
Soma Cruz and Shanoa are very nice, and the other 2 from 'Castlevania' DS(Portrair something, I guess) should be too...
Rayman, another one that needed to be there before...
Megaman, I'm not even sure why hasn't him being in SSB before --', as well as Zero, maybe Roll too, as she made a quite nice show in Marvel VS Capcom...
Banjo & Kazooie, mainly after the 'Banjo Tooie' game, was supposed to be a char either...DAMN!! why do they keeping forgetting those characters who are perfect for this situation??! --'
I wish to see Sora too, but I know that's a far dream *-*
If Vaati is coming, Toon Link should come as well, maybe Toon Zelda or Tetra??(they're the same, but whatever)
Ninten is the same thing as Ness, so I don't think him as necessary here...
I do love Crono, but I guess he'd be just a Shocked version of Link in this game, so no great deal here...
If Magus would be going too, why not the whole party?!? Frog, Marle, Robo, Ayla, Lucca too...
Crash Bandicoot??! Are you kidding??! oO he even isn't a nintendo character...
Princess Daisy, Rosalina and Pauline, I think they could have an appearance on the game, maybe modifing the story, but not as playable ones...
Instead of Koopa Kid, why not Baby Bowser??
Maybe Baby Mario or Baby Luigi too, Yoshi should be replaced by Yoshi Kid, (or have both) with the Baby Mario or Baby Luigi on his back, maybe a faster and weaker version of Yoshi, with the a different Egg throwing way, don't ask me any more details about this idea, but I do think it would be nicer...^^
Shadow and Silver'd be very nice there too, as they have they own ''powers'' to attack...
Amy Rose'd be nice too, just think, Amy wanting to kill, I don't know...Peach?? or whoever girly and cute she finds near her dear Sonic, it'd be very nice to see...
Oh, Maxwell and Raguna, and from game like the 'Mystical Ninja' guys, 'The Violinist of Hameln', 'Wonder Project', 'Yggdra Union', 'Paper Mario'(different, and don't ask how of the 'Super Mario Bros.' chars), 'Drawn to Life'(another ''don't ask me how'' idea), 'Zubo', maybe a custom Mii would be nice..
Pac-Man and Ballon Fighter, I'm not so sure about being playable ones, maybe as a Assist Trophy, they'd be cool...
other Assist Trophies: the guy from 'Go Go Ackman', 'Chibi-Robo', more chars/enemies from 'Mario' or 'Kirby', or any enemie that can be found in any game that's from nintendo...
Yeah... hate to be a spoilsport, but after the first 51 characters, I literally said "NO" to the last 95 on this list.
Yes, I know it's a fighting game. But the original idea for Smash Bros. was to have characters from Nintendo characters. Not just whoever the hell can be grabbed and thrown in. That happens and it essentially kills what it was originally meant to be. It's like having Marvel vs. Capcom and then throwing in DC characters. It's not supposed to be a roster of games from all over the place.
Yes, I know, it sounds like I'm nitpicking. And I probably am. But I stand by my point. The first 51 are fine. The last 95 shouldn't be put in. For any reason. Ever.
Looks like this list got some attention since I made it (not surprising given that it was first made about five years ago). So here's an updated list, significantly pared down from the original but still featuring a multitude of multiplat characters. (By the way, sorry to @agentjsucks, but I have yet to die in a fire. Could still happen though. Keep crossing your fingers.)
It will be sorted by series, with slashes indicating alternate costumes (in the same vein as the koopa kids in the new iteration of Smash Brothers).
Super Mario Bros: Mario/Luigi, Peach/Daisy/Rosalina, Bowser, Bowser Jr, Wario (five)
The Legend of Zelda: Link/Toon Link/Young Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, Vaati, Sheik/Impa, Tetra (six)
Various: Yoshi, Ice Climbers, Little Mac, Duck Hunt/Banjo Kazooie, Game and Watch, Ray MK, Captain Falcon/Blood Falcon/Black Shadow/ Professor Layton (eight)
Sonic: Sonic/Shadow/Silver, Eggman (two)
Metal Gear: Solid Snake/Liquid Snake (two)
Castlevania: Simon Belmont/Soma Cruz/Shanoa, Dracula/Alucard (two)
Phoenix Wright: Phoenix/Edgeworth/Godot (one)
Resident Evil: Leon Kennedy/Jill Valentine/Chris Redfield/Ada Wong (one)
Final Fantasy: Cecil Harvey/Terra, Kefka (two)
Okami: Amaterasu (one)
Street Fighter: Ryu/Ken (one)
TWEWY: Neku/Shiki (one)
Up to this point there are 58 completely unique characters, not a huge jump from the current roster. The following would likely be the least likely save for the first four or five, but would make for great DLC.
Various: Mega Man, Bomberman, Pac-Man, Viewtiful Joe, Rayman, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Lara Croft, Shantae, Yoshimitsu, Prince of Persia, Ezio, Joanna Dark, Parappa, Klonoa, Sly Cooper, Shulk, Kos-Mos, Chrono
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