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Inception.... *spoilers*

I... i really am speechless. ive been in a daze since i watched that movie last night. 
This is coming from a guy who finds The Dark Knight offputting, so u know i mean it when i say Inception was just..... 
 
Not only does it amaze you with the matrix-like basis of it (the whole dream-world concept), and not only does the movie deliver the whole dream-entering adventure brilliantly and perfectly, with top notch visuals and well-connected sequences, and not only is Cobb's incentive oh-so-touching and heartwarming (seeing his children's faces since he missed it and has been missing it in the memories ever since)  [this is coming from a guy who despises flicks that play on our emotions using family figures and shit] 
 
not only does it have and do all that mentioned above, but the motherfucking twist at the end where we learn about Cobb's first inception and how it affected the whole story
 
dude.. i have never in my life experienced a movie so fucking compelling on so many levels. a movie that pulls it off so successfully, and has layers upon layers integrated in it yet doesnt bore you out or cease to make sense 
  

This movie really, really deserves a moment of silence to appreciate how goddamn unique it is.

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I... i really am speechless. ive been in a daze since i watched that movie last night. 
This is coming from a guy who finds The Dark Knight offputting, so u know i mean it when i say Inception was just..... 
 
Not only does it amaze you with the matrix-like basis of it (the whole dream-world concept), and not only does the movie deliver the whole dream-entering adventure brilliantly and perfectly, with top notch visuals and well-connected sequences, and not only is Cobb's incentive oh-so-touching and heartwarming (seeing his children's faces since he missed it and has been missing it in the memories ever since)  [this is coming from a guy who despises flicks that play on our emotions using family figures and shit] 
 
not only does it have and do all that mentioned above, but the motherfucking twist at the end where we learn about Cobb's first inception and how it affected the whole story
 
dude.. i have never in my life experienced a movie so fucking compelling on so many levels. a movie that pulls it off so successfully, and has layers upon layers integrated in it yet doesnt bore you out or cease to make sense 
  

This movie really, really deserves a moment of silence to appreciate how goddamn unique it is.

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Quite indeed, it was awesome

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It was alright in my opinion, nothing "OMG LET ME CUM IN MY PANTS!"-spectacular about it. 
The twist was kind of obvious (at least for the people we went with and ourselves) but it didn't make the movie worse at all.  
Only thing it really did for me is to make me think how awesome it would be to be able to do inceptions =D

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@ZeForgotten: What twist?  There is no "twist" in the film.
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@CitizenKane said:
" @ZeForgotten: What twist?  There is no "twist" in the film. "
Sure there was, it wasn't the greatest and most non-obvious twist, but at least they tried for something to make the less smart people go "OH MY GOD!"  
 
Actually, I feel bad about one thing. 
I couldn't help but make a Titanic joke at the beginning of the movie :(
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@ZeForgotten: and what was it?
 
I'm interested in what part of the movie you think is a "twist".
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@CitizenKane said:
" @ZeForgotten: and what was it?  I'm interested in what part of the movie you think is a "twist". "
i must admit that im not 100% sure of the definition of "twist", but isnt it a twist to know at the end that the inception Cobb spoke of in the beginning, is the one he gave his wife while they were in limbo so that she would kill herself and get back to the real world, and when she did she still thought she was in a dream and killed herself thinking she'll wake up to reality ? 
i guess when i say twist, i mean the surprise that stuns you, and changes things. 
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@CitizenKane said:
" @ZeForgotten: and what was it?  I'm interested in what part of the movie you think is a "twist". "
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
" @CitizenKane said:
" @ZeForgotten: and what was it?  I'm interested in what part of the movie you think is a "twist". "
i must admit that im not 100% sure of the definition of "twist", but isnt it a twist to know at the end that the inception Cobb spoke of in the beginning, is the one he gave his wife while they were in limbo so that she would kill herself and get back to the real world, and when she did she still thought she was in a dream and killed herself thinking she'll wake up to reality ? i guess when i say twist, i mean the surprise that stuns you, and changes things.  "
That part right there, I thought that was a definition of a twist too. 
Unless people are talking about the dancing
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It was okay.

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I don't know if I could call that a "twist" in the classical sense, more of an advancement and expounding of the plot.  A twist is when a plot point is portrayed as one thing to the viewer through a majority of the story, but in fact turns out to be something different later on.  Cobb didn't give any indication early in the movie that he performed Inception on anybody particular, his wife or otherwise.

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@CitizenKane: he told arthur on the plane that an inception is possible because he's done it before, and when arthur asked him who he did it to, he didnt answer
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I liked the movie too, but i think it went too matrixy to my liking. But i'm more of a poetic kind of guy.  
 
Awesome idea, but poor execution, as even the tecnique it tried to flesh out (of entering dreams) was way too complicated, and it took its tool to explain, although the idea was simple. 

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@Ahmad_Metallic said:
" @CitizenKane: he told arthur on the plane that an inception is possible because he's done it before, and when arthur asked him who he did it to, he didnt answer"
That is why it isn't a twist.  He never said who, and there weren't any other indicators of who he did it on to fool the viewer into thinking one way or an other.  His wife was a viable candidate for the inception the entire movie, which is why it isn't a "twist" when you found out it was indeed her.
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Yep, it was seriously cool. Did you check out the vid on Screened that showed how the music messed with your brains as well?

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On one hand, I saw the movie with my mother, who likes movies and insisted that we get out of the house so my older brother could work here without distractions (also, the library was closed that day).  The movie was enjoyable enough, and there were certainly things I liked about it.

But as a psychologist, all I could think of was "How can these people get 'source amnesia' so horribly wrong?".  Planting ideas in people's heads is a whole lot easier than the movie made it out to be;  for the absolute, extreme unrealism of it I had difficulty swallowing it.

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Much adoo about nothing.  Talk about taking a gimmick to the absolute limit.  Didn't care about any of the characters, even DeCaprio's, and the story was rediculously, and unnecessarily overly convoluted.  This 'twist' being mentioned wasn't one, although the retelling of their lives streaming by in dreamland was the only memorable thing from the film for me.
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Yep, I loved it. Definitely buying it when it comes out on Blu-ray.

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Good good movie. And if you think 'it was all a dream' I will punch you in the face.

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@ZeForgotten said:
" @CitizenKane said:
" @ZeForgotten: What twist?  There is no "twist" in the film. "
Sure there was, it wasn't the greatest and most non-obvious twist, but at least they tried for something to make the less smart people go "OH MY GOD!"   Actually, I feel bad about one thing. I couldn't help but make a Titanic joke at the beginning of the movie :( "
There was no twist.
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@JeffGoldblum said:
" @ZeForgotten said:
" @CitizenKane said:
" @ZeForgotten: What twist?  There is no "twist" in the film. "
Sure there was, it wasn't the greatest and most non-obvious twist, but at least they tried for something to make the less smart people go "OH MY GOD!"   Actually, I feel bad about one thing. I couldn't help but make a Titanic joke at the beginning of the movie :( "
There was no twist. "
Congrats, you're the master of repeating what has already been said. 
But heck let's take it again, shall we? :P
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@ZeForgotten said:
" @JeffGoldblum said:
" @ZeForgotten said:
" @CitizenKane said:
" @ZeForgotten: What twist?  There is no "twist" in the film. "
Sure there was, it wasn't the greatest and most non-obvious twist, but at least they tried for something to make the less smart people go "OH MY GOD!"   Actually, I feel bad about one thing. I couldn't help but make a Titanic joke at the beginning of the movie :( "
There was no twist. "
Congrats, you're the master of repeating what has already been said. But heck let's take it again, shall we? :P "
There was no twist.
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It was good, but not that good.

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@TwoLines said:
"The script is fantastic. "
No it wasn't. It was the weakest part beside for the gunfights. The first half was all exposition and the second half was plain. There was also several times when two characters would be talking and they'd say the word dream in every sentence. It sounded very amateur.
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It was good yeah, I wouldn't say amazingly good. Certainly nowhere near the Dark Knight. What got me was the fact that despite being pros at inception (or extraction, whatever), all involved seem to be really bad at the actual normal stuff in the dream state. They understand the complexities and stuff, but a bunch of dudes can still fuck em up.

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@CitizenKane said:
" @ZeForgotten: What twist?  There is no "twist" in the film. "  
Depending on how you interpret the ending, you could have said the entire movie was Leonardo's dream, or he was still in limbo, or he finally met his kids. They are all valid interpretations. I would say the first two are sort of twists. Regardless the movie was fantastic. It's already #3 all-time on IMDB's top movies of all-time list. 
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@TwoLines said:

" @HandsomeDead: I loved it. I think it did an amazing job of easing us into the world of inception. With the dreams inside dreams, the architects, the main characters backstory.. Excellent! "

For me it was too complex. Not to understand, but to explain it. The movie would be probably better if they eased on the explanation, and tried something simpler. Cool concept, but the explanation wasn't clear.
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The movie was amazing, I loved the premise and the acting
I enjoyed the fact that it was the the dream world rules were so complex, it made me think a lot and made my second viewing much more enjoyable, because I understood more of what was happening
The ending was also great, although I wouldn't call it a twist

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@TwoLines said:
" @Jeust:  Oh, I definitely felt the film was trying to explain something really complex and convoluted, but that's why I loved it. It didn't stop to look at the screen, and say: Hey, are you getting all this? I know it's what movies are suppose to do, but with the latest movies dumbing down every concept, making me feel like an idiot, this one didn't.  It may require a second viewing to understand everything clearly, but that's the price I'm willing to pay. I understand if somebody doesn't like this sort of thing. "
Yep, i think what also made it more convoluted was the fact that it tried to gloss it over with a over the top execution. So it had to explain the concept and also the way to achieve it.
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I really liked the movie, but Nolan created a world with so many complexities that the audience focuses on the rules that the dreamscape is confined by rather than the story itself.  No one talks about the resolution between Mal and Cobb, nor about Cobb and Saito's for foreshadowing conversations.  People just keep asking "Was it a dream or not?"

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From a realistic standpoint, after you get away from just how awesome the movie felt, you should be able to realize that it really wasn't that fantastic of a film. It was probably the worst film Dicaprio has been in in since Titanic. It was awesome, yeah, but it just had the few good things going for it. A lot wasn't done too well.
 
It shamefully introduced Ellen Page, as "the girl who doesn't know anything, so that the audience can learn as she learns." This is an insult to the smarter audience. We didn't need her. Writers of movies such as this should just make their movie. If people are too dumb to understand something, then that's their fault.
 
The part where Ellen Page (aka: The New Recruit, The Overpowered Sidekick, The Renegade Student, The Token Prodigy) demonstrates her powers in her first dream was a little messed up. I'm talking about the whole "twisting the back-ground upside-down onto the fore-ground" part. I don't mean its placement (yeah, it was a little out-of-place, but it still showed the audience just how awesome her skills were). I'm talking about the technical aspect of it. Being the avvid video game player that I am, I couldn't help but directly look at the part of that scene that I thought they'd mess up. And yep, they messed it up. When the city begins folding, the farthest point is still looking fine from our perspective, but as the tops of the top-towers begin to meet the tops of the bottom-towers, you start to see some clipping. The corners just kind of fold in over eachother and disappear into themselves. Like a computer draw-bridge closing both sides at once, and with zero collision detection. I know, a minor error. But I saw it clear as day.
 
The ending of the movie was just too cliche. It was a cop-out to get the audience to think about the film long after they left the theater, and has been the subject to much unwarranted debate.
 
Okay. So, the greatest film I've ever seen? No. The worst film Dicaprio has been in in awhile? Yeah, but that isn't that bad of a thing. Titanic was pretty neat, and all of Dicaprio's roles since then have been outstanding. Therefore, the movie was really, really cool. Even if it had some story cliches thrown around it, it was still a great movie. It just wasn't as great as it could have been.

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@TwoLines said:
" @FunExplosions: Shutter Island was worse in my opinion. And I really didn't like The Departed.  Hah, I guess you could say I'm not a big Scorsese fan. "
Watch Goodfellas before you decide that, it's by far his best film. 
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@FunExplosions said:
"The ending of the movie was just too cliche. It was a cop-out to get the audience to think about the film long after they left the theater, and has been the subject to much unwarranted debate."
The thing about that which bothered me the second time round is that half the running time is used to clearly set rules and regulations so ending on a note of uncertainty, as you say, seemed like a cop out. I can't say the film was bad but I don't get how it's some mind blowing revelation.
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@TwoLines said:
" @FunExplosions: Shutter Island was worse in my opinion. And I really didn't like The Departed.  Hah, I guess you could say I'm not a big Scorsese fan. "
Well, haven't seen Shutter Island, honestly. And The Departed was good, in my opinion, but I really, really hate Jack Nicholson. Something about him. I loved The Shining, don't get me wrong, but any other role he's played I feel would have been much better suited for someone else. His role in that crappy Adam Sandler movie didn't help this position of mine.
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@drag said:
" I wish I could feel as passionate about the film as a lot of people seem to be.  "
This. I mean, it was a great movie and all, but I still like The Dark Knight a lot more.
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The biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen capitalizing on people's wish to lucid dream. I didn't understand the emphasis on the ending since a spinning top will never keep spinning until infinity and if you want to say it would in a dream world, then that's just a cop-out as what kind of arbitrary law is that?

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@FunExplosions said:
 I'm talking about the technical aspect of it. Being the avvid video game player that I am, I couldn't help but directly look at the part of that scene that I thought they'd mess up. And yep, they messed it up. When the city begins folding, the farthest point is still looking fine from our perspective, but as the tops of the top-towers begin to meet the tops of the bottom-towers, you start to see some clipping. The corners just kind of fold in over eachother and disappear into themselves. Like a computer draw-bridge closing both sides at once, and with zero collision detection. I know, a minor error. But I saw it clear as day.     
I saw this too, but you do have to consider that this is a dream and well making the ground the sky is kinda unrealistic in itself, so you shouldnt worry about if the buildings are touching. Thats the effect they are going for, where the rules of our world, doesn't rule the dream world.
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@TwoLines: Well Scorsese directed that. 
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@FunExplosions said:
" It shamefully introduced Ellen Page, as "the girl who doesn't know anything, so that the audience can learn as she learns." This is an insult to the smarter audience. We didn't need her. Writers of movies such as this should just make their movie. If people are too dumb to understand something, then that's their fault.  "
seriously? the concept of an audience surrogate is exactly new and there's alway been one in almost every sci-fi movie i can think of.  the rules in this movie are fairly complex and almost completely foreign to most movie goers. leaving the audience to tool out the mechanics of a fictional universe isn't the sign of an intelligent film. hell, i would argue that leaving such things ambiguous is a cheap and lazy way for a movie to seem complex and mysterious.
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@CitizenKane said:
" I don't know if I could call that a "twist" in the classical sense, more of an advancement and expounding of the plot.  A twist is when a plot point is portrayed as one thing to the viewer through a majority of the story, but in fact turns out to be something different later on.  Cobb didn't give any indication early in the movie that he performed Inception on anybody particular, his wife or otherwise. "
That's exactly what happened though. You think she just went crazy but then you find out he made her go crazy.
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it really sucks that he is still in the dream world in the end. but i loved the movie. 

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I thought it was good, and was my favorite movie that I've seen in a long while, but the first time they mentioned a dream within a dream (so like 20 minutes in), I turned to the person I was there with and said "So is the end of the movie going to be that it's all a dream?" and he said "Yeah, that's pretty obviously where it's going," so the ending didn't BLOW MY MIND like it seems it did to most people.

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@ajamafalous said:
" I thought it was good, and was my favorite movie that I've seen in a long while, but the first time they mentioned a dream within a dream (so like 20 minutes in), I turned to the person I was there with and said "So is the end of the movie going to be that it's all a dream?" and he said "Yeah, that's pretty obviously where it's going," so the ending didn't BLOW MY MIND like it seems it did to most people. "
but it wasnt all a dream. only the parts when they went under were dreams. and the ending is so open to theorizing that it could blow your mind if you hear the right thoery