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@MethodMan008Yeah, definitely look into replacing the thermal compound first. You'll need some rubbing alcohol / surgical spirit to remove the old stuff properly.

Well said, I hadn't actually read all of Cliff's post until now, just some snippets. Part of his argument is that simply because EA and Valve are profit-driven companies they're one and the same and deserve an equal bashing. I think you gave a few great examples of their behaviour and why there is a difference in perception. I probably won't be playing much of the next Command & Conquer: Generals because it's free to play / pay to win, I know how that's going to go. It's a shame and I certainly won't be spending any money on that title, but that doesn't mean I can't complain about it. I loved the original Generals (no love for Red Alert 2 here) and was excited for a sequel, now less so.

On another note I don't have to expect Origin to be in the same shambles as Steam when it came on the scene....TEN YEARS AGO. Not that Origin is as bad, I use it for one game and it does a fantastic job launching that one game. I'm not in the hate-EA crowd, I paid for Battlefield 3 Premium and feel I'm getting good value and hours of game time, but Cliff using "companies want to make money" is a pretty poor and condescending response to people's complaints.

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I built my current rig last November, I'm very happy with the GTX 660, it offers great performance for the price and MSI's cooling is just amazing, better than the reference design. I have a 1680x1050 screen so I enjoy better frame rates than someone running games at 1080p. The 450W power supply is ample as the GPU takes one power connection.

@benstewart84 The current consoles are holding gaming back in general when it comes to the largest titles, they need to come out for the sake of all gamers.

My 360 downstairs serves as a media device and a gaming machine for when friends are over, there's no local 4-player with my PC, there are certain things a console is better at. On release they're going to wipe the floor with most people's gaming rigs (from a visual standpoint), most likely including yours, the balance will be restored for a while.

I'll personally stick with the PC until the next gen console prices come down, but you're making a mistake disregarding them.

@hailinel you're missing the point which is a character may reference the concept of Satan, may be called Satan but also draw their attributes from other areas. I use Lou as an example of a character that pulls from different concepts but would probably be identified by most people as "Satan". To put Lou in the same page as the the Megami Tensei version could be achieved but would be an inelegant way to go about it when they appear to be different characters.

Satan from Madou Monogatari is referenced on the "new" Satan page (perhaps once part of the "original") and yet has even less to do with the Judeo-Christian-Islamic concept of Satan than the Megami Tensie version. Again, different characters, deserving separate character pages.

I wasn't seriously suggesting they merge, as concepts they differ but what I'm pointing to is the problem with loose interpretations of Satan, varying, referencing different concepts, it makes a singular Satan character page a problem when you want to band them all together.

Yesterday it was working, today no. Nexus 4, 4.2.2, tried Firefox, Chrome, Dolphin.

@hailinel: I think "Lou" references "Lucifer", so maybe the Lucifer page can be merged with Satan too? The character also has hooves, and is from Hades, so the references are all over the place. Yes he's in part a representation of Satan but branding him the same character as some of the other Satan's appears problematic. That's why it makes more sense for a Satan concept page and individual character pages per franchise.

Silly me! I meant this one and this one. One page for these two? Come on, these are two separate characters. Where you say coming from the same "place" I'm reading "concept", give it a go, it makes complete sense.

It's not like Sam Fisher who keeps getting younger and with the upcoming title, appears to have a completely different personality etc. I wish they retired Fisher and kept him on as a mentor or something, instead they change the personality, physique and age. It bums me out but that's a case of the same (albeit butchered) character, whereas the Satans above are not.

Lou from GHIII again, he has more in common with the standard concept of Satan than the one in Umineko no Naku Koro ni (I don't have a clue what series this is but it's one of the examples linked above). Yet his name is not Satan, does the character page for Satan include Lou as an alias? Does Lou get his own page but the "servant to the Golden Witch" (Satan example above) not?