There's something to be said for treating trans peeps with enough respect to believe they can take a relatively harmless joke, but if the jokes made them feel bad, that's not cool. I just can't see the two comments in question really offending someone very badly. It's not up to me to decide, but personally I don't feel like these jokes are ones worth calling out. That being said Patrick has nothing to apologize for, he didn't even bring it up. What else is he going to say when asked the question he was asked? "No the transphobic jokes were fine." Come on now.
I feel this is the big misconception about all this, and it's same with sexism and racism conversation around gaming. It's the same misconception that I feel the TC is making.
These jokes aren't bad because they make trans people collapse into a heap and cry because they're too fragile to take a joke, they're bad because they help to prop up damaging stereotypes that already exist and are pretty damn pervasive.
And when I say "bad," I don't mean it's a "the worst thing that's every happened in the history of time and won't someone please think of the children. Social justice team unite to ban this filth" level of bad. More bad like a small papercut is bad. One isn't that bad, maybe it stings a little but whatever. But a few thousand and it really builds up.
Just acknowledging "hey, this is kind of a shitty joke" actually helps quite a bit because it forces you to at least think about what you're laughing at and why.
I don't disagree really, but I'm not sure that these jokes are even bad enough to do the kind of small damage you're talking about. I'm not the offense police though, people have every right to be upset if they want, but even the transgender people on this site are saying that they didn't think it was really a big deal. All I'm saying is, this doesn't seem like the right situation to call out and make a stand against when so many worse examples exist out there.
but not many people are? They're just saying it was shitty. Some people are being overly emotional about it (which they have every right to be as hormones often mess with your emotional state ANYWAY) but none of them are leading internet petitions against Mr. Mchale or anything.
well now that i said that I bet there are petitions, but you get what I'm sayin.
@irrationalbee: he didn't fucking crucify anyone. His tweet was disappointed, sure, but not nearly as angry as you're trying to append to him. Also, some trans people are angry about it? if the joke so did not offend you, why aren't you talking to them instead of Patrick who tweeted once about it?
as a trans person I also didn't append any hatred of transpeople on Mchale, but your posts have been very dismissive of people that do feel that way and it sucks. hard.
EVERYONE IS REPLICANTS AND THE REAL HUMANS ARE THE SHADES
I also really liked Zeno Clash 2's twist, talking about games this year
the zeno's are actually cordoned off into their own little world by the civilized world that happens to be Chile, whilst the Golems are there to protect the civilized world and make sure no Zenos leave.
Though having said my piece I didn't think the jokes were too offensive (actually I didn't hear the wario one but whatever). I've certainly seen worse from this very website (that otomedius execellent quick look bummed me the fuck out).
@irrationalbee okay how are we not a weak, helpless minority (compared to just about every other minority out there)? I mean shit I assume you know about the suicide numbers. Hell, most of us have another type of mental instabilty (at least those that I've met). HRT is hard but the people who succeed are (largely) the one with money, the ones who live in a decent area, the ones who have a good support net.
okay what the fuck was that referencing, I saw a bunch of people post about it in the chat window like it was this huge fucking thing and I couldn't exactly ask the chat because it was moving too fast.