I Play Old Games: DOS Video Extravaganza!

Greetings my good people. Even though I am currently working my way through Persona 2 Innocent Sin (i.e. the one that only came out in Japan and has Hitler), I figured you all deserved some sort of an update from me. Thus, here are some videos of games that I considered, at some point, to do a blog thing about recorded through DOSbox's internal video codec. Unfortunately, music for this codec only works if certain sound cards are used, so movies may occasionally not have music. Otherwise, enjoy!

X COM UFO Defense

 
 

 

Master of Magic

 
 

Might and Magic: World of Xeen

 
 
   
 

Command and Conquer: Red Alert

 
 
  Well, there you go. Please note that some of my better videos were too long for Youtube, and I really don't feel like cutting them up in Windows Maker. What you see is what you get. Also, I will probably write a blog about X Com next week or so. Anticipate it.
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Posted by ArbitraryWater

Greetings my good people. Even though I am currently working my way through Persona 2 Innocent Sin (i.e. the one that only came out in Japan and has Hitler), I figured you all deserved some sort of an update from me. Thus, here are some videos of games that I considered, at some point, to do a blog thing about recorded through DOSbox's internal video codec. Unfortunately, music for this codec only works if certain sound cards are used, so movies may occasionally not have music. Otherwise, enjoy!

X COM UFO Defense

 
 

 

Master of Magic

 
 

Might and Magic: World of Xeen

 
 
   
 

Command and Conquer: Red Alert

 
 
  Well, there you go. Please note that some of my better videos were too long for Youtube, and I really don't feel like cutting them up in Windows Maker. What you see is what you get. Also, I will probably write a blog about X Com next week or so. Anticipate it.
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Posted by Video_Game_King

Wait, there's a video feature for DOSBox? Why the hell haven't I figured this out yet? For games, I'm working through Persona 1 (the America-released one with a cock-tailed scorpion for a final boss). So close, so close....

Posted by Astras

Nice, 3 of my fav games of all time, UFO, Red Alert and Master of Magic. I still play them from time to time... *without nostalgia goggles - you certainly can' t replace classic gameplay with graphics it seems.

Edited by ShaneDev

I forgot how bad the command bar in the DOS version of Red Alert is compared to the windows one but its still a great game, I prefer the original C&C though. 

Posted by Chaser324

X-Com is one of my favorite games of all time, and yet for some odd reason, it seems like there is nobody out there willing to make games like this anymore. Valkyria Chronicles is pretty much the closest thing to a new X-Com game that I think we're going to get.

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Posted by ArbitraryWater
@Video_Game_King:  Ctrl+Alt+F5 is capture video, though you have to have the video codec installed first, which is in its start menu folder.  Tis quite helpful.
@Astras: Indeed. XCOM and MOM are pretty rad as far as I am concerned, though they each have their own annoying quirks. Not a big fan of Red Alert though. It feels too... simple for my tastes.  That's what I get for Warcraft 3 being my first major RTS, I guess.
@Chaser324: Well, I understand the UFO series is like X Com but crappy (it had some people from the original development team or something). Then there's Jagged Alliance, which is in the same vein, except for the part where I hate it because it's a never ending battle of who's potshot will hit first, which sucks more than anything. However, there is also S2 Silent Storm, which is supposedly pretty awesome. In any case, it's sad that nobody has really expanded upon the XCOM formula in a popular and reasonable manner. Terror from the Deep is apparently literally just the original game with different graphics and harder difficulty and Apocalypse is apparently not so great.  It just seems wrong, at some point, that a 16 year old game is somehow better than its imitators.
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Posted by Meowayne

DOS games era > Every other PC gaming era that came after.

Posted by owl_of_minerva

Might and Magic II was my childhood equivalent to Oblivion, endless questing and monster-slaying. I dimly remember by health getting so high that it started to go off the screen and fighting dinosaurs (why are there not more rpgs with dinosaurs). I'm not sure if I could go back to it now thanks to the retina-burning colours though.
Red Alert is one of the great RTSes of its time an this confirms that I should just buy XCOM from steam already.

Posted by ArbitraryWater
@Meowayne: I personally vouch for the era of 1998-2000 as being another very important and influential time in PC games. But otherwise sure, I agree with you in concept. The DOS era is pretty rad.
 
@owl_of_minerva: Allow me to tell you that the first two Might and Magic games are, straight up, unplayable at this point. III and World of Xeen are much more playable, although you still kind of require a guide to see what to do and where to go. In any case, Might and Magic VI and VII are the ones that everyone thinks of when the series is mentioned. And yes, you should get XCOM.
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Posted by owl_of_minerva
@ArbitraryWater:  Not only are you allowed, I endorse that statement. I tried to play II on Dosbox in the hopes of rekindling the magic; it was like trying to remember a foreign language one used to know as a child and can't speak anymore.  I will pursue some of the later games in the series for nostalgia value, I think. Are there any other oldschool RPGs of that style you would consider essential (and available)? I mostly played the Infinity Engine games after moving on from Might and Magic.
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@owl_of_minerva:  Well, my old school RPG experience pretty much includes the aforementioned Might and Magic series (the first 6 are available on Good Old Games), Infinity Engine stuff and Fallout 1 (not a fan of Fallout 2.) However, if there is one semi-obscure RPG that I heartily recommend it's Wizardry 8, which came out in 2001, but is very much the last of the party based first person dungeon crawler (unless you want to count Might and Magic IX, but the problem with that is that M&M IX is a bad game). 
 
That's not to say I don't have issues with it (the way the difficulty scales, how everything takes way longer than it should), but it's very good. Of course, it's also not exactly very easy to find legally... for a decent price.  Also up there is Temple of Elemental Evil, which attempts to translate Pen and Paper D&D, in its entirety, into a video game format, with mostly positive results as long as you use the fan made fixpack. Unlike Wiz 8, you can actually find it for cheap on Amazon or something.
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Posted by SJSchmidt93

Do WC2. Best DOS game ever.

Posted by ArbitraryWater
@SJSchmidt93:  WarCraft 2? Ok: It's an RTS where both factions are the exact same except for some minor tweaks that ultimately even out to "Orcs get bloodlust which is better than healing but Humans get more archer damage which is better than regeneration". Being that it's an old RTS, all campaign missions boil down to "build a big army and kill some dudes" or "escort mission". Nice cartoony graphics and soundtrack. 
 
There, that is my review of Warcraft 2. As you can tell, I'm not a huge fan or RTS games.
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Posted by Tordah

Damn, that's some old-school gaming right there. I'm a bit sad that I was too young at the time to ever learn how to properly play any of those first-person RPGs like Wizardry, Might & Magic, Eye Of The Beholder, etc. They were just too difficult and complicated for me.
 
Now I might be able to learn how to play them but it's hard to go back to such archaic gameplay mechanics. Not to mention I wouldn't have any "real" nostalgia goggles to help me ease into them either.

Posted by Constable_Wiggum

You want some old school gaming?  Look to the origins of current adventure games like Sam & Max, good old Sierra Online and the Kings Quest and especially Space Quest series.  Along with the old SCUMM games like Maniac Mansion and Full Throttle, those games defined my youth.  

Posted by mracoon

Red Alert and X-Com are two great games. Never heard of World of Xeen.

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Posted by Meowayne
@mracoon said:
" Never heard of World of Xeen. "
what
Posted by Brunchies

Nice, I'm way to young to remember or play any DOS games but luckily GOG has me covered for games like X-com.

Posted by Lambert

No System Shock? List fails...

Posted by Jimbo

Just stick a pin in Bullfrog's catalogue and you're almost guaranteed to hit a classic.
 
The 00's were a barren gaming wasteland compared to the 90's.

Posted by Chyro

I still play X-Com.  Great game.  
 
If you can find it, I suggest you check out Twilight 2000.  That game.  Literally.  The most hardcore game I have ever seen.  You get around 50 troops.   Tons of different weapons, vehicles and skills.  There is a skill for everything.  Boats, plains, foraging.  The list is immense.  And each person you can custom set up. And it is the same kind of Turn Based combat that X-Com has.   I don't really know why nobody talks about this game.  As back in the day these kinds of games with depth were welcomed. 

Posted by SilverBulletKY

X-COM was so good.  I remember playing the demo disk from PC Gamer (3.5 floppy) and thinking that this is the greatest thing I have ever seen.  I've thought about playing the newer clones but haven't gotten around to it.  There is a free one online somewhere that's supposed to be really good.

Posted by ArbitraryWater
@Lambert said:
" No System Shock? List fails... "
Maybe because I don't have a copy of system shock to record video from because it's not available legally on the internet? And even then, I would much rather play the second one anyways, which I hear to be quite good.
 
@Tordah:  Frankly, Eye of the Beholder scares the shit out of me, as does any Wizardry game before Wiz 8. But Might and Magic from the third one onwards are quite playable assuming you use a guide to tell you where to go. It also helps that the first 6 in the series are on GOG for $10, which is worth it for Might and Magic VI alone... although it's not exactly the easiest game to look at graphically speaking. Considering that I bought Might and Magic VI around 5 years ago, I can tell you that it worked for me without any nostalgia glasses.
 
@rsansome: I actually messed around with the free remake of King's Quest... and really all I could think of was how much more I liked the Homestar Runner parody of it, Peasant's Quest. If some of LucasArts better adventure games came to Steam, you bet your face I would play some Sam and Max or Maniac Mansion. Although, I'm not especially good at point-and-click adventure games...  
 
@mracoon: You haven't heard of World of Xeen? I DEMAND BLOOD. Actually, I forgive you because X Com is so dang rad.  
 
@Brunchies: Indeed. All of this stuff is before my time as well, but it would be in your interests as a person who plays games to look at some of this stuff like I did. I fully endorse X Com, as well as the entire Might and Magic series bar the first two (totally unplayable) and the 9th one (not a good game by any means) and the entire Heroes of Might and Magic series (although the 3rd one is easily the best).
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Posted by ArbitraryWater
@Jimbo:  I have played Dungeon Keeper before, if that's what you are implying. I liked what I saw.  
 
@Chyro:  That sounds... nuts. I would check it out, but my back catalog of games, both old and new, is already precarious as it is.
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@ArbitraryWater: 
 
It is the most complex game I have ever played.  Here is the link to the manual.   The list of skills starts on page 17.  Just take a look and see what I mean.  I go back to it every couple of years.  Last time I played it I forgot to bring a anti tank weapon with me.  Got to the town in my Humvee and literally got blown to bits by a tank before I could do anything.  Really punishing difficulty.
Posted by Jimbo
@ArbitraryWater: I was implying "If you want some more rad DOS-era games, I recommend anything by Bullfrog".  I'd start with Syndicate if you haven't played it, because Syndicate is glorious.
Posted by ArbitraryWater
@Jimbo said:
" @ArbitraryWater: I was implying "If you want some more rad DOS-era games, I recommend anything by Bullfrog".  I'd start with Syndicate if you haven't played it, because Syndicate is glorious. "
Oh yeah! Syndicate! Yeah. I should really check it out... 
 
@Chyro: I think my head exploded around the time it mentioned that you could fish.

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