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#1 Edited by armaan8014 (5864 posts) -

@makayu:I guess different people have a different reaction to the inclusion/ exclusion of different colours etc. In my case, I didn't even notice the fact while playing the game (or during the 3ish years build up to the release of the game) All I was thinking about was "Man, I've been waiting for TW3 for so long. Hope it's as beautiful as TW1. Hope it returns to its Slavic, Polish folklore roots" (as the developers mentioned that they would, art - direction wise and music wise) I only noticed the debate as articles and blogs started popping up around the internet.

I didn't even think about how "everyone is white" in the game. Sure, I often think of how interesting it would be to see a GTA based in Mumbai or something (but with our insanely sensitive government and censorship board, I doubt anything of the sort would ever happen) But I just didn't think on similar lines in the case of TW3. So that's my reaction, but as I said, I guess people react differently.

But @lab392states a lot of similar arguments much better here:

@lab392 said:

But I just don't believe that any of these things are The Witcher's or CD Projekt's cross to bear. As you acknowledged, it's a Polish game made by Polish developers based on a Polish book about mostly Slavic mythology. As Americans, we need to be very careful about imposing American frameworks of race and racism on art from countries and about cultures that are drastically different from America's.

(..... )

If Activision releases a game next year set in New York that has nothing but white protagonists, then we can have that fight. This country has its own long, shameful history with race, depiction, and exclusion. And I have no problem holding American media accountable for helping to address that. But I just don't think CD Projekt has that responsibility. Poland doesn't have our past or our culture, so we shouldn't judge its media against our history.

This is exactly what I'm trying to say. Perfectly stated. Hope you don't mind if I quote you while continuing to discuss this topic on other threads :D

@cabelhigh: You're right. And the fact that it was forced is always in your face when you're playing the game. You can practically see the game designers and their faces while you're playing the game. And ofcourse, I agree there shouldn't be limitations when it comes to race. It should feel smooth and natural as you said, that's what matters.

#2 Posted by armaan8014 (5864 posts) -
#3 Posted by armaan8014 (5864 posts) -

@graf1k said:
@theloyaltraitor said:
@that_lamer said:
@theloyaltraitor said:

So, speaking specifically about The Witcher, I do have one major problem with many of the arguments that it should have black people in it.

Where might one find this individual?

Can't honestly tell you. I remembered running into him at some point but didn't remember where specifically (somewhere in Velen, I think). Then I just saw this screenshot floating around. Either way, it is the only black person I know of in the game.

There's also a dark skinned succubus in the game, although I wouldn't be surprised if that angered people even more than if there were no dark-skinned characters in the game whatsoever. FWIW there are also light skinned succubi in the game too...

Lol. I'm really sorry but... once you put on the candle you realize that guy is actually white! There's something up with the lighting in that room. It's hilarious and sorta ironic though! Thanks for the laughs in the midst of all this madness :D

#4 Posted by armaan8014 (5864 posts) -

Copy pasting (with a bit of edit) something I wrote in other threads

(Note: I'm an Indian.) I love the Witcher 3 and the culture it represents - the Polish culture. Usually I don't get drawn into these politically- correct nonsense type debates but this time I've been really getting annoyed. I'm an Indian, but why do people think I need to see Indians in Witcher 3? Who cares?

I don't think that every game doesn't need to be a representation of the variety of human colours that exist on the planet. From what I remember from reading the Witcher books, the cast of characters there is all Polish too! Talk about the books then, not about the game that faithfully follows the books.

The same issue annoyed me when I played DA:I (which you mentioned) It felt weird, and out of place. I was distracted by the sudden appearance of different flavors in the cast of characters. When I complained about it feeling forced, people said that "it's a world with dragons, elves etc etc." and that I "shouldn't find a mix of races" to be unrealistic in a fantasy world. Well, forget realism then. It felt inconsistent and forced, and that's my problem.

#5 Edited by armaan8014 (5864 posts) -

Copy pasted my post from a similar thread -

(Note: I'm an Indian.) I love the Witcher 3 and the culture it represents - the Polish culture. Usually I don't get drawn into these politically- correct nonsense type debates but this time I've been really getting annoyed. I'm an Indian, but why do people think I need to see Indians in Witcher 3? Who cares?

I don't think that every game doesn't need to be a representation of the variety of human colours that exist on the planet. From what I remember from reading the Witcher books, the cast of characters there is all Polish too! Talk about the books then, not about the game that faithfully follows the books.

The same issue annoyed me when I played DA:I (which you mentioned) It felt weird, and out of place. I was distracted by the sudden appearance of different flavors in the cast of characters. When I complained about it feeling forced, people said that "it's a world with dragons, elves etc etc." and that I "shouldn't find a mix of races" to be unrealistic in a fantasy world. Well, forget realism then. It felt inconsistent and forced, and that's my problem

#6 Edited by armaan8014 (5864 posts) -

@imsh_pl: Oh man, love your post. Agree completely.

(Note: I'm an Indian.) I love the Witcher 3 and the culture it represents - the Polish culture. Usually I don't get drawn into these politically- correct nonsense type debates but this time I've been really getting annoyed. I'm an Indian, but why do people think I need to see Indians in Witcher 3? Who cares?

I don't think that every game doesn't need to be a representation of the variety of human colours that exist on the planet. From what I remember from reading the Witcher books, the cast of characters there is all Polish too! Talk about the books then, not about the game that faithfully follows the books.

The same issue annoyed me when I played DA:I (which you mentioned) It felt weird, and out of place. I was distracted by the sudden appearance of different flavors in the cast of characters. When I complained about it feeling forced, people said that "it's a world with dragons, elves etc etc." and that I "shouldn't find a mix of races" to be unrealistic in a fantasy world. Well, forget realism then. It felt inconsistent and forced, and that's my problem

#7 Posted by armaan8014 (5864 posts) -

I love voice acting in my RPGs, but silent protagonists are a sort of a novelty now, and it'd be cool if Fallout was one of the games that continued to have that novelty value.

#8 Posted by armaan8014 (5864 posts) -

I already spent a couple of year's worth of my hype on waiting for The Witcher 3, but I'm still happy this is coming out. Loved the music in the trailer, and I'm sure I'll enjoy it when it comes out. But for now, the Witcher 3 has all my attention :)

#9 Edited by armaan8014 (5864 posts) -

Hmm I mostly spend my time on Youtube (watching gaming related channels and all) Giantbomb for the forums (QLs have become boring, so switched to funhaus on youtube for fun gameplay videos) and a couple of different sites for football (soccer) news.

But a lot of time I google up stuff that I'm thinking about/ want to know more about and accordingly follow links. So I end up on a lot of different sites according to what I'm looking for rather than depend on certain selected sites. So maybe ... Google as well.

#10 Posted by armaan8014 (5864 posts) -

@theblue said:

@armaan8014: Those kids sure like to float, same thing happened in my game.

Also, if there's an NPC holding a large box, he tends to walk like this:

Hahaha that's hilarious! Especially cause I've seen that bug too :D