@GrantHeaslip said:
@SathingtonWaltz said:
Great points, I have to agree with you. I do always laugh when people say that Obama is a liberal, as his actions have placed him in the center-right.
Cheers. We're increasingly having similar problems here in Canada. Our Conservative party (which used to be called the Progressive Conservative party) has been hijacked by a much more ideological faction, and are in the process of enacting some of your stupidest policies here, especially in criminal justice and environmental deregulation. My province has a similarly-hijacked (but thankfully not in power) party who are still called the Progressive Conservatives, but have been progressive in name only after they swept into power in a self-styled "common-sense revolution" in the 90s. They're currently on a particularly vacuous it's-all-the-unions'-fault bent.
I hate it when both sides aren't firing on all cylinders, because I like having more options and political debates about different approaches to dealing with the same fact, not debates over the facts themselves or pretending problems don't exist. No side is without serious problems, but the conservative parties in the west (or at least Canada, the US, and to some extent the UK, which are the countries I follow the most) seem to be going through a really dumb phase right now that I hope will pass soon.
Well said, Canadian politics are turning into a complete mess thanks to the nutjobs that are trying to turn our right wing into the Republicans. The Conservatives are actively running attack ads against the opposing parties WHEN THERE ISN'T AN ELECTION FOR 3 YEARS. Not only that, their ads are incredibly deceiving and manipulate far too much of what the opposition is saying (They claimed that Tom Mulcair said that Canada's growing economy is a disease when what he actually said is that we are potentially seeing Dutch Disease with our economy, which is actually pretty accurate because it is growing at an inflated rate because of natural resources). They are also making substantial cuts to scientific areas and important government sectors like food safety and giving nothing in return for these cuts, except sweet tax exemptions to oil companies in Alberta, while the economy in the east crumbles. I have no issue with people who have right wing ideals but what has been happening lately isn't healthy for politics in any country. The whole "You're with us or you're with the Terrorists/Socialists" (or in Canada's case, with the paedophiles, in the case of the internet monitoring bill) ideology that has swept North American politics has done far too much harm and needs to be stopped.
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