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#1  Edited By bibledoctor

The ending was just so abrupt, I was expecting something grand. Sixteen different cinematics, showing us what our decisions actually did to the characters involved. But all I got was a five second glimpse at Geralt's back, and before that a one minute scene of walking away. It was a great game, and even the Dragon fight didn't bother me (although I had no idea it was Saskia, don't know if it was because I sided with Roche or not), but just the lack of a wrap-up was disappointing. Great game that leaves a sour taste in your mouth because of that end.

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@hermes said:
Sorry about the spelling. English is not my main language and it gets more noticeable the longer the sentences. Right now I am using Chrome corrector as a way to minimize the spelling mistakes, which is likely not the best option.

About the rewrite... They have said that they are not necessarily going to rewrite any established character to fit the role of the male Sheppard homosexual love interest. They are likely going to introduce some new character that opens up that possibility. Garrus and Mordin are never mentioned in the article and I am only using them as examples of characters people fear they would rewrite to fit the LI role (which, again, they are not)...

I wasn't trying to 'pick on you' for your spelling, I was trying to get across how humorous I thought it was that it took me so long to read your post because of how it was tripping me out.

In regards to the rewrite, they said not necessarily. I'm not taking that as fact, I don't trust Bioware (or any other company) enough to take that kind of terminology as 'fact'. I'm not sure why you are so sure they won't. If they add a bisexual (or ideally maybe a homosexual male and female character) male LI and leave all the others the way they are, I think that would be ideal. Why would you fix something that isn't broken? Maybe in future games they can have actual homosexual characters instead of just random ambiguous sexual characters they half ass out to appease a group of people who believe that it somehow means that Bioware is 'all about being gay'. I don't know why the fanbase is so happy with having every party member be bisexual, it's disingenuous. Why wouldn't you have a mix of sexual orientations, straight, gay, bi, asexual, etc? It's lazy and I don't like it.

Hell i'm not sure how this turned into such an issue. The romances are meant to be (or should be) a part of the game that helps with your emotional connection to the characters and immersion into the world and the story, not to be the whole reason you buy a game.
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#3  Edited By bibledoctor
@hermes said: 
The other part (about the orientation), I don't agree that much. As many other things, sexual orientation is part of what you decide for your character. Its part of who do you decide to be, as Sheppard. As well as whether you decide to punch the reporter or scare that fanboy, its part of the roleplaying. The fact that most options you have affect a small portion of the game (and possibly of the sequels) is unfortunate, but the sex orientation is hardly the only place. I didn't notice much more repercussions in the decision of who do you decide to engage with as in whether you decide to save the council or not (besides the scope of one single mission).

Now, if you check the comments again, you will see that most people indeed "don't want homosexual romance options in the fucking game", specially went there is no mention of who those options might be... there is no proof that they will rewrite Garrus and Mordin to be interested all of a sudden, instead of introducing some new character to open up the possibilities... They even say that in the article.
That was difficult to read, the subtle spelling errors threw me for a loop. As I was reading through I kept auto correcting in my head, and then debating if they needed to be corrected at all. When I realized that they did, I also realized that I was reading the same sentence over and over again. Anyways.

  • The repercussions of denying an initiated romance in ME2 were that you couldn't interact with the character on a conversation level anymore, which would kill character development. Especially if too many people are available for romancing both genders.
  • They don't want homosexual romances in the game because the way that Bioware is implying they will implement them, is to make the characters from the first few games have an orientation which they have not had in the past. Which causes the above issue to come to mind.
I'm not going to retype my whole previous post. Nearly everything you've stated in this post, I touched on in my previous post. So we're beginning to go in circles here, and i'm not into it..

In reference to your last few lines, I never said I knew who they were going to rewrite or change. I never said anything about Garrus or Mordin doing anything. I'm not saying there is proof, I don't know where you got that information and why you made it up. I am saying that the way Bioware (Casey Hudson) implied this might happen is causing people to assume, based on Bioware's recent game and their responses on the Bioware boards, that this could be an eventual and probable outcome. This assumption is generating discussion on how fans would feel if this did happen and how similar to 'retcon' it actually is.
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#4  Edited By bibledoctor
@Aragorn123 said: 
This might not be the case. From Casey Hudson's twitter:

 Some game sites saying "previously straight chars now available for both m&f chars" not necessarily true. Will have some new LI's in #ME3


Yeah i'm subscribed to his feed as well, saw that too. I was just trying to explain what the people on the 'other side' are worried about. It's starting to get stereotyped as homophobes vs. homosexuals, which isn't the case and it's a bit insulting to jump to that conclusion.

Whatever the case, and however it turns out. It's sad that Bioware and the fanbase has made the romances such a huge part of the game, to the point where people are being beyond nasty to one another fighting over this. The romances were great, no they were fantastic, when they added a certain amount of depth and emotional connection in regards to the story, but to go out of your way now to cater to everyones sexual wants in a game is getting a bit ridiculous.
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#5  Edited By bibledoctor
@hermes said:
@BibleDoctor said:
@hermes said: 
Besides, same sex love interests were available in ME 1 too, and not many people complained...
Interest, not plural.
Just for the sake of "political correctness", there was the possibility or there was not. Whether it was one option or hundreds, its not the point.
That isn't what the majority of the people arguing about this are worried about. Liara was scripted as a 'bisexual' option, what they hinted at doing now implies the plan on altering characters that they have spent two games building into the same ambiguous sexual orientation that all the romance options in DA2 were. In addition to that distaste, the way the romances in ME2 were handled it adds another fear. If you shot down a character who expressed romantic interest in you during ME2, there was no more dialogue after that. There were no more scripted conversations, and the development stopped at pretty much the 'no' coming from your characters mouth. The worry is that Bioware will throw the blanket of the ambiguous sexuality over every character who you've spent two games getting attached to, and then have their dialogue and your interaction with them cut short when you shoot them down.

It isn't that people don't want homosexual romance options in the fucking game. I'd love to see a gay male or female character, who isn't some strange sexual orientation that relates only to the PC, but as strong homosexual character. Who is written as such. It's lazy writing, especially in regards to how important the interpersonal relationships are in the Mass Effect games, to just opt out of giving the character an orientation.
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#6  Edited By bibledoctor
@hermes said: 
Besides, same sex love interests were available in ME 1 too, and not many people complained...

Interest, not plural.
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#7  Edited By bibledoctor

Twenty maybe thirty bucks.


It's not bad, but the lack of anything other than multiplayer cuts it down.
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#8  Edited By bibledoctor

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.

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#9  Edited By bibledoctor

So then don't listen to him.
Reviews are just the opinions from someone who gets paid to have opinions.

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#10  Edited By bibledoctor

Disappointed that the single player was so neglected, but it is a fun game if you think of it as a pure multiplayer experience.


Might not have been worth sixty bucks, but I would have been itching to play it if I didn't purchase it anyways.