I thought the characters were worse than...Star Ocean 4 and that's saying something
Hey man... No. Not that.
Shame you couldn't get into it- hopefully the next one works for you. I really liked the combat system (but then again, I don't mind menus. I even enjoy turn-based combat when it's well done).
Ok, that was under the belt. I like turn based and real time combat but fusing the two into ATB never clicked with me, it does nothing you couldn't convey in a completely turn based system with no arbitrary action bars filling up.
I didn't mean it to be an insult- In general I don't like ATB systems, but FFXIII's works with me in a way VII's or others never did.
Ugh this thread title is so dumb, and not just due to the inherent dumbest in thread titles about whether someone's opinion is unique among every human being on the planet. Plenty of people were defending the game when it came out, dude.
Pardon my use of hyperbole to promote discussion. Obviously, I'm not so big a dickhead to think I'm the only one with an opinion.
I have played through, 7,8,9,10 and 12. It's a toss up between 9 and 12 for best of all time but 13 was really really badly written. The gameplay was alright but not great. I got to disc 2 before I decided I couldn't take the terrible characters anymore
You should try the NES/SNES games. If you like 9/12 they'd be right up your alley.
the more I think about it, Snow was the worst character.
He doesn't know the idea of how ironic he is "I'm the hero" and basically kills hope's mom in the begining
I disagree; Hope's mom chooses to die. Which is why I really dislike hope, because he acts like a little whiny bitch for it. And Vanille is my least favorite solely because her VA is so grating- at least Troy Baker makes Snow doofy and lovable.
I agree with every point you made above, but you neglected one simple thing that tips me towards Persona 3 over 4. And it may be the case for you too- I played Persona 3 first. Not only is it harder to go backwards from 4 to 3 (the gameplay design is devolutionary), but the improvements in 4 are iterative, rather than being revelatory. Persona 3 blew me away like nothing I'd ever played before, so going on to Persona 4 was more of the same goodness, rather than being a whole new experience. I actually actively disliked the tone and characters of 4 the first time I tried it, because I was so attached to P3 (the soundtrack was part of that, since it was one of the things I loved from P3 the second I plugged it in).
Most of the people I know who like Persona 4 better played it first. And I think there's something to that.