Major Nelson on, "what was said, yesterday."

Well. This isn't news. He's said dick-nothing.

Major Nelson: Official Statement on what was said yesterday

The point is, that Microsoft's official Public Representative has said nothing. Well, I mean exactly:

I wanted to give you the official Microsoft Statement regarding some comments you may have seen yesterday::

"We apologize for the inappropriate comments made by an employee on Twitter yesterday. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views do not reflect the customer centric approach we take to our products or how we would communicate directly with our loyal consumers. We are very sorry if this offended anyone, however we have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter."

As frequent readers of my blog know, the moment we have news about our products I will be sharing all the details I can.

This is the closest thing we have to a public figure. From what Jeff has said, Don Mattrick is going to EA, whether or not that's true. Joe Belfiore isn't gonna ever be CEO. Ballmer doesn't even have a twitter. And Bill Gates hasn't said anything.

I've said before, that I'm a little pro-Microsoft. But, I mean I'll admit: If worse comes to worse, come past E3, like by September, I sure hope this has been sort it out. But, I guess I would then give in maybe to a PS4. This is a blog post, so a year from now I might have bought something and I'll know.

Anyway, this time now, there's 613 comments on that official posting. Le Sigh.. ~ The point is that: This DRM, now has me worried. I'm trying just desperately hard, to try and figure out who's pitching this AlwaysOnline thing. Windows has always been this hippie mentality about providing the cheapest-best thing for every human being in the world.

Its like: On one side you have this Always-online thing. (X∞) I don't have a chart. ~ And on the other side (PS4), you have: I don't like the controller design. I don't like Sony (XMB) interface. I don't like the messaging. I don't like the store interface. And if the word on the street is right, a PS4 might cost $430. Xbox ∞ was supposedly designed with a $300 price, "guaranteed," at some point.

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There's now like 9 solid weeks until E3. If you think of this as a creative writing assignment. A red-button creative issue, where a MS Studios CD has shit your bed.. 'Just ruined the whole thing. How do you fix this? The only thing I can think of right now: is if they did a Nintendo Direct style move, featuring Steve Ballmer and Don Mattrick. And have them give a 5 minute speech about why gamers shouldn't worry. And of course cancel any DRM plan from here on out.

Even if they were to put a half-AO console-thing out, price it $200 and below. And have XBL priced at $3 a month.

$100 is the magic price point where people will buy anything at least once, just to try it.

Or, have 2 Xbox versions. One cheap AO version, priced at $100, w/ a payment plan like T-Mobile. Microsoft already does now with their 360. Or a $300 version with no AO. And $30 XBL points included with every console.

Every day they don't say something, the worse it is. If we don't hear anything by this Friday, we're fucked. Nine weeks is way too far for gamers to wait. Gamers will burn that bed before then. : /

38 Comments
39 Comments
Posted by Hailinel

@blu3v3nom07: What do you want him to say? Adam Orth's Twitter tirade was never going to make Microsoft suddenly reveal details about Durango.

Posted by sissylion

Every day, they don't say something, the worse it is. If we don't hear anything by this Friday, we're fucked. 9 weeks is way too far away, gamers will burn that bed before then. : /

Oh, man, you're totally serious, aren't you?

Posted by JasonR86

In other words, Adam Orth was told to shut the fuck up by Microsoft's higher-ups.

Edited by StarvingGamer

I think every complaint you listed under PS4 is a complaint I have about the Xbox. And at least the PS3 had games. Now that I think about it, my 360 was a huge fucking waste of money. Huh, what a bummer.

Okay, the new PSN store is kind of shit. Don't know how they managed to simultaneously lose performance and functionality.

But yeah, their marketing plan is their marketing plan. With a behemoth of an announcement like a new console, agility really isn't going to be your strong suit. For 99% of people, I don't imagine it will matter in the end.

Posted by Blu3V3nom07
Posted by JasonR86

@blu3v3nom07:

The ultimate form of saying 'shut the fuck up'.

Edited by Blu3V3nom07

@starvinggamer: Its kinda where, pitching a product to a consumer, and have it make sure it doesn't suck for the next 9 years, is kinda.. Well you're fucked no matter where you go. I have a PS3 right now btw, and uh.. Meh! I've had a 360 before, and there's pros and cons to both.

Posted by Butano

I highly doubt Microsoft will say anything about it until they deem it ready, which is probably gonna be E3, which also happens to be a couple weeks before Microsoft's Build conference in San Fran.

This is Microsoft we're talking about, they aren't gonna cave in to gamer reaction like Bioware will.

Edited by ajamafalous

You should work on your writing; you use entirely too many commas, to the point that it became so annoying that I couldn't even focus on what you were actually saying.

Edited by StarvingGamer

@blu3v3nom07: I don't play a lot of multiplayer so clearly that advantage of the 360 is lost on me. I'm just looking back at my library and all the 360-exclusive games I bought to help justify owning that console, and I'm realizing that there is not a single one that I would consider a "must-play" and actually very few that I even managed to marginally enjoy.

But honestly, I can't imagine how all this always-online bullshit could sour public opinion of the 720 (whatever) so much that, whenever they get around to announcing it, consumers would ignore how fucking awesome it is because they're all butt-hurt over a rumor. If it comes out and it has the specs, it has the games, it has the features, it has the price point, then all of this shit will be instantly forgotten. And if it just doesn't cut the mustard, then all this shit didn't matter to begin with because it's simply not good enough.

Posted by Blu3V3nom07
Posted by FunkasaurasRex

@ajamafalous said:

You should work on your writing; you use entirely too many commas, to the point that it became so annoying that I couldn't even focus on what you were actually saying.

Oh man yeah, what is up with that. Jeez.

Edited by believer258

@blu3v3nom07 said:

@ajamafalous: Mm. I looked at it. Its fine.

Actually, it's not fine. It is hard to read. I got the gist of your post, I am not going to sort through the rest of it.

But that's beside the point. I wonder if Microsoft got the message that always-online is a bad thing and they really shouldn't implement it? Maybe they're working on removing it as we speak?

...nope. That would make too much sense. They'll just keep quiet about it. I really hope I'm wrong in saying that. And I really hope that it wasn't actually a thing in the first place.

Posted by Mirado

@blu3v3nom07 said:

Every day, they don't say something, the worse it is. If we don't hear anything by this Friday, we're fucked. 9 weeks is way too far away, gamers will burn that bed before then. : /

Or, no one will give a shit. I think you are grossly underestimating the public's capacity for apathy. If your average person is faced with the statement of "Don't support this, it has evil DRM!" the immediate response will be "Yeah, but it has Halo/CoD/Madden/one of the other four games I play."

If history tells us anything, its the fact that a consumer uprising rarely occurs outside of the most dire of life and death circumstances. DRM is no tainted meat packing industry, and your average gamer is no Upton Sinclair.

Also: "Windows has always been this hippie mentality"? I do hope you mean Pella and not Microsoft, because you're just totally off base.

Posted by RollingZeppelin

@blu3v3nom07: Why do you randomly insert tilde's into your text?

Edited by DarthOrange

@starvinggamer said:

@blu3v3nom07: I don't play a lot of multiplayer so clearly that advantage of the 360 is lost on me. I'm just looking back at my library and all the 360-exclusive games I bought to help justify owning that console, and I'm realizing that there is not a single one that I would consider a "must-play" and actually very few that I even managed to marginally enjoy.

I feel the same way. I really liked Trials: Evolution and Alan Wake and uh....... that's about it. And neither one of those games stayed exclusive to 360. The 360 was the first and last Microsoft console I own.

Edit: Actually I really liked Deadlight as well.

Edited by EXTomar

So should anyone be surprised if the thing releases, the servers choke, which leaves people with boxes that can't play *anything* until the load dies away? This is where we are heading with this stuff unless they purposely starved the supply.

But yeah the think I think everyone is discovering is that due to the highly connected world we now live in, the one where they want people to buy their boxes and connect it, word spreads fast. If they don't talk they aren't controlling the message. I'm sure Microsoft will be fine when people will forget the all of the problems when the next big game is released but that doesn't make any of this "better".

Posted by BisonHero

I agree with ajamafalous, but I'm on a phone and can't directly reply. Granted, maybe English isn't your first language, so I'll be constructive in my criticism. Try to only use commas to separate major components of a sentence, or wherever you would pause to take a breath if you were speaking aloud.

However, on the other hand:

"If you think of this as a creative writing assignment. A red-button creative issue, where a MS Studios CD, has shit your bed. Just, ruined the whole thing. How do you fix this?"

Surely that should have been one sentence, because the way it is now, the periods just turn it into a bunch of sentence fragments.

I recommend you stop using tildes, unless that's how everyone uses them in whatever region you live in. You could just start a new paragraph instead.

Posted by awesomeusername
Posted by Ravenlight

Maybe it's an ARG.

Or sexism.

I'm not really sure at this point.

Posted by EVO

@ajamafalous said:

You should work on your writing; you use entirely too many commas, to the point that it became so annoying that I couldn't even focus on what you were actually saying.

Oh man yeah, what is up with that. Jeez.

This has also been bugging me but I didn't wanna be the one to bring it up. Is English your first language @blu3v3nom07: ? Are you drunk or high or something? All your posts read like stream of consciousness drivel.

Edited by dudeglove

Hey, you could, like, not buy it. Y'all need to learn to vote with your wallets, folks. This blind fanboy devotion - the hope that "it'll be okay eventually" - just reinforces bad business practices and draconian DRM policies. That's not to say that that I'm accusing some of you being such fanboys - although some of you are - you're still not doing yourselves or the industry any favors by not taking a step back and realizing that, yes, you can make a difference, even if it means missing out on the next mediocre AAA release.

Posted by TruthTellah

@evo said:

@funkasaurasrex said:

@ajamafalous said:

You should work on your writing; you use entirely too many commas, to the point that it became so annoying that I couldn't even focus on what you were actually saying.

Oh man yeah, what is up with that. Jeez.

This has also been bugging me but I didn't wanna be the one to bring it up. Is English your first language @blu3v3nom07: ? Are you drunk or high or something? All your posts read like stream of consciousness drivel.

English has to be his primary language, or he is just well-trained in it. There is simply far too much informal language there. So, while I understand why people might be questioning whether he's drunk or high, I don't think there is much evidence for him lacking English skills. It's just a rather odd way to express himself. As you said, real thoughts mixed with a stream of consciousness kind of nonsense.

Edited by Ramone

He sooner talked about a, 'tasty salad recipe,' from Modern Cusine, Will Smith's friends.'

Dude, what?

Is English your first language? If not I apologise.

Posted by Superfriend

Yeah that Nintendo Direct idea is actually pretty cool.

They could have Don Mattrick kill himself live on camera. The guy has basically ruined the video games industry (alongside a few other charming business guys), so that´s the least he could do.

Other than that, they won´t come out and tell people what the next xbox is until E3- and when they do there´s going to be hella DRM. They might not phrase it like that Orth guy did, but the message will definitely be the same.

Posted by Andorski

Hey, you could, like, not buy it. Y'all need to learn to vote with your wallets, folks. This blind fanboy devotion - the hope that "it'll be okay eventually" - just reinforces bad business practices and draconian DRM policies. That's not to say that that I'm accusing some of you being such fanboys - although some of you are - you're still not doing yourselves or the industry any favors by not taking a step back and realizing that, yes, you can make a difference, even if it means missing out on the next mediocre AAA release.

Fuck it... you can miss a few amazing AAA games and still have made a better choice by not supporting a product made by a company that continually shits on their customers.

This mentality is not practiced enough by the gaming community. There's much internet whining by gamers who don't realize they have everything that's necessary to control their experience with this hobby. Microsoft fucking up on their platform? Sony's right around the corner offering something that's 99% similar. Don't like the control that platform holders have on their consoles? Get a PC. Hate DRM? Pass on Steam and go for DRM free marketplaces like Gog.com and wait for Humble Indie Bundle releases. The worse case scenario in all of these choices is that you will not be able to play every god damn game on the fucking planet. These are the choices we make, folks. If this perplexes, confounds, and infuriates you, then I have sympathy for any actual choices you need to make in your lifetime.

Posted by Klei

And once more, we can say '' Shut the fuck up Major Nelson, you're useless as always. ''

Edited by mrfluke

they need to announce this system already, all these "rumors" are creating negative press around the console that hasnt been announced yet. and making the ps4 seem like THE console to have.

Posted by KrypticKiller

Who wants to bet right now there are people at EA working on a concept for emergency servers? For just $10 you can make sure your game never gets interrupted!

Posted by killacam

LOL

Posted by Jay_Ray

@mrfluke said:

they need to announce this system already, all these "rumors" are creating negative press around the console that hasnt been announced yet. and making the ps4 seem like THE console to have.

I disagree; if the next Xbox has always online, can't play used games, etc. then announcing it sooner will anger everyone. If they what a little longer most people who care will already have had their tantrum and just accept it.

If the next Xbox does not have all these "features" then everyone who have accepted these rumors as facts will rejoice and say MS is so great and lavish them with kind words.

Edited by Hailinel

@jay_ray said:

@mrfluke said:

they need to announce this system already, all these "rumors" are creating negative press around the console that hasnt been announced yet. and making the ps4 seem like THE console to have.

I disagree; if the next Xbox has always online, can't play used games, etc. then announcing it sooner will anger everyone. If they what a little longer most people who care will already have had their tantrum and just accept it.

Tell that to all of the people that complained about DmC and ended up not buying it. Push something far enough, and you will end up pushing consumers away.

Posted by Dixavd

Why would Bill Gates have said something?

Posted by Jay_Ray

@hailinel: I think MS just don't care about those people and haven't for a long time. I'm not saying it is right but if the rumors are true I think it is best to let these people accept that this console is not for them and move on before announcing it.

Posted by Blu3V3nom07

Alright, I edited it some. It should be fine by now.. I don't do ESL. I'm just lazy sometimes, so I waited until today.

Posted by mrfluke

@hailinel said:

@jay_ray said:

@mrfluke said:

they need to announce this system already, all these "rumors" are creating negative press around the console that hasnt been announced yet. and making the ps4 seem like THE console to have.

I disagree; if the next Xbox has always online, can't play used games, etc. then announcing it sooner will anger everyone. If they what a little longer most people who care will already have had their tantrum and just accept it.

Tell that to all of the people that complained about DmC and ended up not buying it. Push something far enough, and you will end up pushing consumers away.

Exactly, People underestimate the power of negative press,

Edited by Andorski

@hailinel said:

@jay_ray said:

@mrfluke said:

they need to announce this system already, all these "rumors" are creating negative press around the console that hasnt been announced yet. and making the ps4 seem like THE console to have.

I disagree; if the next Xbox has always online, can't play used games, etc. then announcing it sooner will anger everyone. If they what a little longer most people who care will already have had their tantrum and just accept it.

Tell that to all of the people that complained about DmC and ended up not buying it. Push something far enough, and you will end up pushing consumers away.

Capcom doesn't have the expertise in abusing their userbase the way Microsoft does. Having an "always online" console is just a logical progression of Xbox Live. This style of DRM, the app and multiplayer paywall, and making virtually all DLC be paid for by the customer is Microsoft's overall plan of making sure their userbase pays out for every single incentive their service offers. This has been Xbox Live's structure since the 360's debut, and it has worked out extremely well for them.

Capcom doesn't even come close to having this type of control over it's buyers and were able to make a DmC game that their hardcore fans hated without it bombing. The missed sales projections made by Capcom has more to do with 1) their overestimation of active console players this late in a console cycle and 2) the overall trend of game publishers needing every single title to be a hit for their current business model to be successful. Microsoft, on the otherhand, has shown complete aptitude in squeezing every cent out of the people who buy their products. They have consistently abused their consumer relations since the release of the 360 and all it has brought them was overwhelming success as a console holder.

Posted by HerbieBug

meh.