He said never and I was just saying that there are successful kickstarters.
I could've said "not" if you get frustrated by hyperbole. ;) And yes I'm well aware Shovel Knight beat the odds, I remember hearing about it long time ago from EpicNameBro.
Polecat made my summary point more factually that I would have, thanks. I would've simply posted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_that_proves_the_rule, in that successful video game Kickstarters would seem to be the exception. That reinforces having great expectations is setting up for disappointment. Remember the Pitfall developer trying one? Are people super-happy with Broken Age? It's interesting...
And let me be clear, I'm mainly being critical of the middlemen taking a percentage. For all the failed KS that do not complete, one assumes that the processing fees of the successful ones make up for it. Does that make a $150k premium a fair amount to withhold from a struggling creator? I'm not sure.
Also I'm pleased to buy Shovel Knight now instead of when it was cheaper because they still actually need to make a profit now, and I know what I'm getting. Generally I will give any KS I want to support $5 or so, rarely even enough for the lowest reward tier. I gave it a fair try early on, I just try to expect nothing in return.
And my track record of never expecting anything out of Kickstarter projects continues unbroken. Paying artists lump sum before they actually begin work is madness. Half-start, half-delivery is the only safe compromise, and I'd want 10 years of expertise before I ever agreed to let someone be paid on good faith. 35,000 is not a retainer fee.
no one and I mean NO ONE has gotten rich from this effort or is even better off then when we started,
This is incorrect. Amazon and Kickstarter jointly pocketed $152,665. That is where people's money went.
We had no way to force that person to pay back any of the funds and it was a bitter lesson to learn. Always get every possible scenario in writing or you will have no legal recourse.
It's interesting that this statement echos how many backers feel.
I created this original image for the UMN page, because no clear art existed for it, and used it ever since. Like many, a unique avatar is much more recognizable than even a forum name. Especially for the old-timers like me without massive post counts. I've also created a few that you may have seen others use.
At site launch, my avi was a bad crop of a James Pond box, and my profile page art was the Solar Jetman box. On Joystiq I made a Solar Jetman profile and avatar but I don't think I used it here or it would be in my gallery. Heh. Joystiq.
FF8, the only game that lets you say "5 more Sleeps!" again and again and again. I remember a lot of people upset that they would miss GFs (especially Siren) by not drawing from the correct enemy.
I'm pretty satisfied with the PC's official save cheat. Having a long history of hacking memory and save files on the PS1, I've finished this game enough times that I really don't need to be drawing shit like Fire and Cure right off the bat. And of course I milked the hell out of the intro mission. Those dues are paid.
@thatpinguino: Right. I couldn't remember the name. For anyone who doesn't know, you can choose a save file to be hacked by the game client (or does it actually connect to the server?), giving your party a pile of high grade magic. I'm just guessing but I doubt I'll need to draw for stat boost purposes for the first 20 hours.