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#1 Posted by breton (1426 posts) - 1 month, 7 days ago
#2 Edited by breton (1426 posts) - 1 month, 7 days ago

People shouldn't be surprised, upset, morally outraged, embarrassed to be part of the gaming community or anything of the sort. It's an internet poll. An internet poll. Something that really holds no weight and the result will be forgotten in two days. However, as The Consumerist wrote in one of their articles: "The point of this contest, now in its 8th year, is to enable consumers to send a message to a company that provides goods or services to them. Winning this contest means your customers are trying to tell you something." Jimbo said it well:

@jimbo said:

EA didn't win it twice by accident - that's what the story should be here, from gaming's perspective. No shit they aren't actually the worst company. Maybe the people voting aren't entirely earnest about EA being the worst, but just want to teach them a lesson anyway? It's an opportunity for people who are regularly treated with zero respect by EA to return the favour, that's all.

EA continue to learn fuck all from anything their customers are saying to them, but they sure are great at misdirection and at getting apologist gamers to fight their battles for them.

Anyone who's takes a mocking sense of moral highground on the basis of "internet you're so stupid" are the one's really missing the perspective of a, once again, internet poll. And do EA favor by encouraging the company to ignore the point that "your customers are trying to tell you something."
#3 Edited by breton (1426 posts) - 1 month, 17 days ago

The greater issue is that it's not even about jokes or bullshit or tricking people. It's just the annual make something up day and everyone says "oh ha you made that up". People really have to start their April fools jokes months in advance, generate buzz on it whether it's positive or negative, then on April 1st tell everyone it was a lie. It would have the double effect of people expecting something to be an April fools joke and then when April 1st comes around they find that the company is actually serious.

#4 Edited by breton (1426 posts) - 1 month, 20 days ago

@patman99: You're right, it's not that big of a deal and I don't know if Ryan used a rhetoric in the podcast to suggest otherwise. But asshole is casual term for me, and it's less so the fact that the person is doing it so much as their lack of empathy/care about the other person that makes them one. I don't quietly rage the whole flight, I get upset the moment I notice a person is actually going to do it and adjust for the rest of the flight. Yeah I could tell the person my gripe, but, now my social awkwardness will show, calling someone out on being an asshole is an asshole move in itself (case in point: the OP of this thread clearly took negative reaction to the accusation). And other people have posited the idea of asking the person behind you if it's okay to lean back, but what are people going to say? No? That's also being an asshole - just outright refusal of someone asking to do something isn't really socially appropriate.

Yeah, we screw ourselves over by being nice and not looking for confrontation. But it would be nicer if other people were nice and could comprehend why they shouldn't lean their seat back in the first place.

@hector: I think you're trying to be silly with the theatre analogy as you're comparing a conscious choice to a biological disposition, but I'm 6'1" and am always conscious of people behind me and slouch. I sacrifice my own comfort (slouching isn't really uncomfortable) because I'm nice and am able to empathize with the person behind me who would be getting pissed off every time my head moves in front of their field of vision - as I have had happen to me when some tall asshole sits in front of me and doesn't care about anyone but himself.

#5 Posted by breton (1426 posts) - 1 month, 20 days ago

@eskimo said:

I love how in modern society we get offered shitty products like seats with fuckall leg room and then fight amongst ourselves instead of pointing the finger at the airlines.

Hardly. Everyone complains about public services (though planes are technically private). But being given a shitty service is not an excuse to be a dick and make it worse for everyone else.

#6 Posted by breton (1426 posts) - 1 month, 20 days ago

@inkerman said: As soon as those cabin lights dim I lean all the way back and go the fuck to sleep. Airplanes are hell. Deal with it.

@stryker1121 said: Hell no it's not an asshole move. Airplanes are uncomfortable as hell and leaning a seat back 10 degrees is not infringing on the rights of the person behind you. You people are nuts..

@krullban said: Fuck you, whenever I fly it's always a 15+ hour flight. I'm leaning back.

@marcsman said: Don't fly coach. If you do suffer the consequences.

@ch3burashka said: I honestly don't see how it makes the person behind you experience's worse. The chair gets like 2 inches closer to you, and unless you have something in the way (laptop, that inflatable sleeping thing) then you can deal.

@zombiespace said: I'm leaning back no matter what.

@patman99 said: Those seats are tiny even for regular sized people so to get mad at someone trying to get more comfortable is crazy.

@wallzii: You can't expect someone not to tilt their seat back to get comfortable on a 12 hour flight, which in itself is already a miserable time at best.

@Slag: I don't see how you can fault somebody for using a reasonable function that is built into the actual equipment.

Jesus Christ, pretty much anyone who's expressed contrary to the idea of it being an asshole move has shown no empathy for the person behind and only recognized their own discomfort from being on an airplane. Here's a tip: Everyone on the plane is miserable and uncomfortable, and you're benefiting from someone else's further discomfort. It's selfish and an assholeish. It's not even an 'unwritten rule', it's human decency.

#7 Edited by breton (1426 posts) - 1 month, 21 days ago

We should start a Patrick Sympathy kickstarter where we can give him money every time someone expresses a criticism about him.

#8 Edited by breton (1426 posts) - 2 months, 2 hours ago

Is it over? No, it's not.

#9 Posted by breton (1426 posts) - 2 months, 6 days ago

@extomar said:

Hmm, swapping out the main characters from a well into pre-production prototype because "the guy will sell more" seems pretty dubious to me.

Really? You think it's more likely that the developers just hate women and in an evil plan to sway the rest of the population to their beliefs will use a videogame featuring anthropomorphic animals where the male character saves a woman character therefor subliminally teaching anyone that plays it to equally hate women and regard them only as prizes to be won? I guess it's possible.

#10 Edited by breton (1426 posts) - 2 months, 6 days ago

So one persons game collection represents the whole medium now? Data is not the plurel of anecdote. (god I hate how smug that phrase sounds)

But that's exactly what Anita did and will continue to do. Because even though she isn't explicit in saying that her dialogue is meant to be taken as criticism of the whole medium, that's the obviously implication anyone will take from it just as you did of SpaceInsomniac who also said nothing of the sort.

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