" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

Well, how much is Sonic Adventure and the DX content? If it comes out to like $10-15 then I think that's reasonable $20 would probably be pushing it. Reason being because I liked all the Sonic games from the first Sonic to Sonic Adventure. After the first Sonic Adventure, that's when it started getting weird. Look at it this way. At least they're not trying to re-release Sonic Heroes. I appreciate them re-releasing something that was actually a hit back then.  "

Am I the only one who thinks Sonic Adventure isn't THAT bad?

" @ch13696 said:

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

Well, how much is Sonic Adventure and the DX content? If it comes out to like $10-15 then I think that's reasonable $20 would probably be pushing it. Reason being because I liked all the Sonic games from the first Sonic to Sonic Adventure. After the first Sonic Adventure, that's when it started getting weird. Look at it this way. At least they're not trying to re-release Sonic Heroes. I appreciate them re-releasing something that was actually a hit back then.  "

There's a version of the game that exists that is coded and produced as the complete package (Sonic DX for the Gamecube)- this is like a bad joke. And the fact that they haven't announced plans to reissue Sonic Heroes is not a comfort to me at all. All due respect. "

I've never played Sonic Adventure, or any Dreamcast games for that matter, so I think it's great that they're releasing content on XBLA.

Sonic Adventure is one of those games that in my mind's eye play great but when I boot them up...... :| disappointment.

" I've never played Sonic Adventure, or any Dreamcast games for that matter, so I think it's great that they're releasing content on XBLA. "

" @ch13696 said:

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

Well, how much is Sonic Adventure and the DX content? If it comes out to like $10-15 then I think that's reasonable $20 would probably be pushing it. Reason being because I liked all the Sonic games from the first Sonic to Sonic Adventure. After the first Sonic Adventure, that's when it started getting weird. Look at it this way. At least they're not trying to re-release Sonic Heroes. I appreciate them re-releasing something that was actually a hit back then.  "

There's a version of the game that exists that is coded and produced as the complete package (Sonic DX for the Gamecube)- this is like a bad joke. And the fact that they haven't announced plans to reissue Sonic Heroes is not a comfort to me at all. All due respect. "

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @ch13696 said:

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

Well, how much is Sonic Adventure and the DX content? If it comes out to like $10-15 then I think that's reasonable $20 would probably be pushing it. Reason being because I liked all the Sonic games from the first Sonic to Sonic Adventure. After the first Sonic Adventure, that's when it started getting weird. Look at it this way. At least they're not trying to re-release Sonic Heroes. I appreciate them re-releasing something that was actually a hit back then.  "

There's a version of the game that exists that is coded and produced as the complete package (Sonic DX for the Gamecube)- this is like a bad joke. And the fact that they haven't announced plans to reissue Sonic Heroes is not a comfort to me at all. All due respect. "

You could probably get DX and all those games on the gamecube/Wii for a cheap ass price but to Captainlunchbox being a dick to the people who were defending it since we thought it would be a straight up port and not the rip off it is is really fucking childish.  Especially when we didn't know 2 weeks ago that it would be in this condition. "

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @ch13696 said:

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

Well, how much is Sonic Adventure and the DX content? If it comes out to like $10-15 then I think that's reasonable $20 would probably be pushing it. Reason being because I liked all the Sonic games from the first Sonic to Sonic Adventure. After the first Sonic Adventure, that's when it started getting weird. Look at it this way. At least they're not trying to re-release Sonic Heroes. I appreciate them re-releasing something that was actually a hit back then.  "

There's a version of the game that exists that is coded and produced as the complete package (Sonic DX for the Gamecube)- this is like a bad joke. And the fact that they haven't announced plans to reissue Sonic Heroes is not a comfort to me at all. All due respect. "

You could probably get DX and all those games on the gamecube/Wii for a cheap ass price but to Captainlunchbox being a dick to the people who were defending it since we thought it would be a straight up port and not the rip off it is is really fucking childish.  Especially when we didn't know 2 weeks ago that it would be in this condition. "

" @StarFoxA said:

" I've never played Sonic Adventure, or any Dreamcast games for that matter, so I think it's great that they're releasing content on XBLA. "

I agree.  however the state that that specific game was ported in is a problem.  Hopefully they will do a better job with other games. "

" @SethPhotopoulos said:

" @StarFoxA said:

" I've never played Sonic Adventure, or any Dreamcast games for that matter, so I think it's great that they're releasing content on XBLA. "

I agree.  however the state that that specific game was ported in is a problem.  Hopefully they will do a better job with other games. "

They're greedy, lazy, AND they can't port? It's worse than I thought then. It's one thing to port, it's another to do it poorly to make a quick buck on the poor saps who won't think twice before buying because they're blinded by nostalgia. Hope you weren't  a victim of that. "

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

Well, I ended up getting it. And I don't feel robbed at all. With challenging trophies added to an already fun game, it just more than warranted the purchase. At least for me. But like it's been said time and time again, I can't think of too many developers who DON'T re-release games for a quick buck. The price may be debatable though. "

" @Strubes said:

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

Well, I ended up getting it. And I don't feel robbed at all. With challenging trophies added to an already fun game, it just more than warranted the purchase. At least for me. But like it's been said time and time again, I can't think of too many developers who DON'T re-release games for a quick buck. The price may be debatable though. "

I liked it back in the day, but games have simply gotten better. And if I wanted it, a physical copy for either GC or DC would be cheaper. Now, I'm not saying anyone's wrong for buying it, I'm just saying that Sega's play on fans' nostalgia is just getting manipulative now and there's no excuse to further the nickel-and-diming by charging extra for partial code. And as for re-releases, I would counter your point by saying I don't know of many high-quality, talented developers who do that. "

...And all those developers put out more solid games year round on top of that and their rehashes are done pretty well. I have less of a problem with it if it's done with respect to the fans and a modicum of effort.

" Yes, Sega is the only company to re-release their past games.  If you are so upset about it, then don't buy it. But putting it out on the XBLA gives some people who never had the chance to play it before to give it a try.   It seems kind of silly that you're even mad, since you clearly cannot be appeased in the first place. You're upset with Sonic 4, a game they are finally trying to do right by, and you haven't even played it. "

" @OrigamiDriller said:

" Yes, Sega is the only company to re-release their past games.  If you are so upset about it, then don't buy it. But putting it out on the XBLA gives some people who never had the chance to play it before to give it a try.   It seems kind of silly that you're even mad, since you clearly cannot be appeased in the first place. You're upset with Sonic 4, a game they are finally trying to do right by, and you haven't even played it. "

Said it for me. "

" @Strubes said:

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

Well, I ended up getting it. And I don't feel robbed at all. With challenging trophies added to an already fun game, it just more than warranted the purchase. At least for me. But like it's been said time and time again, I can't think of too many developers who DON'T re-release games for a quick buck. The price may be debatable though. "

I liked it back in the day, but games have simply gotten better. And if I wanted it, a physical copy for either GC or DC would be cheaper. Now, I'm not saying anyone's wrong for buying it, I'm just saying that Sega's play on fans' nostalgia is just getting manipulative now and there's no excuse to further the nickel-and-diming by charging extra for partial code. And as for re-releases, I would counter your point by saying I don't know of many high-quality, talented developers who do that. "

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes said:

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

Well, I ended up getting it. And I don't feel robbed at all. With challenging trophies added to an already fun game, it just more than warranted the purchase. At least for me. But like it's been said time and time again, I can't think of too many developers who DON'T re-release games for a quick buck. The price may be debatable though. "

I liked it back in the day, but games have simply gotten better. And if I wanted it, a physical copy for either GC or DC would be cheaper. Now, I'm not saying anyone's wrong for buying it, I'm just saying that Sega's play on fans' nostalgia is just getting manipulative now and there's no excuse to further the nickel-and-diming by charging extra for partial code. And as for re-releases, I would counter your point by saying I don't know of many high-quality, talented developers who do that. "

However much I disagree with the last sentence..lol..I will say that this is easier for those who don't have a Gamecube or Wii to play Sonic DX on and want to enjoy it. Sure you could just get it on a Gamecube....if you have one. If not, you're looking at spending $30 for a Gamecube, and another $10-$15 for a solid copy of the game which A. Will probably be scratched to hell, or B. Not have the original case and/or manual. Those are issues for me. However, like stated before, the added trophy support warrants the minuscule extra price for me. However, unlike most people who are responding to you with harsh words, I enjoy a solid debate. "

" @Strubes said:

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes said:

" @Captainlunchbox said:

" @Strubes: Check the Bombcast- you gotta pay a fee for the DX content. Total bullshit. "

Well, I ended up getting it. And I don't feel robbed at all. With challenging trophies added to an already fun game, it just more than warranted the purchase. At least for me. But like it's been said time and time again, I can't think of too many developers who DON'T re-release games for a quick buck. The price may be debatable though. "

I liked it back in the day, but games have simply gotten better. And if I wanted it, a physical copy for either GC or DC would be cheaper. Now, I'm not saying anyone's wrong for buying it, I'm just saying that Sega's play on fans' nostalgia is just getting manipulative now and there's no excuse to further the nickel-and-diming by charging extra for partial code. And as for re-releases, I would counter your point by saying I don't know of many high-quality, talented developers who do that. "

However much I disagree with the last sentence..lol..I will say that this is easier for those who don't have a Gamecube or Wii to play Sonic DX on and want to enjoy it. Sure you could just get it on a Gamecube....if you have one. If not, you're looking at spending $30 for a Gamecube, and another $10-$15 for a solid copy of the game which A. Will probably be scratched to hell, or B. Not have the original case and/or manual. Those are issues for me. However, like stated before, the added trophy support warrants the minuscule extra price for me. However, unlike most people who are responding to you with harsh words, I enjoy a solid debate. "

 I should clarify that I was speaking on the lack of effort on Sega's part when it comes to re-doing its games, not necessarily the re-releasing itself. My other point being that Sonic Adventure is not some timeless treasure or a gold-standard for any genre. It was good for its time, and even that is debatable. My point was just that there's a cheaper way to enjoy a mediocre game if you really, really want to and have the means to.  Keep in mind, also, to counter-point your argument that not everyone has a current console. I'd argue that people having a Dreamcast and/or a Gamecube laying around is pretty common. I have both. I know you personally have a DC, (...and a copy of SA... what are you doing...lol) so I don't see how my suggestion was any less reasonable than yours.   And another thing I've felt is that with all this negative press and actually seeing the game again, it's starting to sour my happy memories and kind of really bum me out.   Also, I have to say that other forumites should learn from your example of a gentleman's conduct when it comes to an internet debate instead of being typical internet users.     "

 @Strubes:
 $15 being the price point sucks for 2 reasons- That game was not refined in any way to warrant that price and for the fact that it's like some kind of standard. If Sega had made some much needed tweaks to the camera, control, graphics, sound, and not been total bastards about the DX content- then maybe $5. Maybe. But I guess there's easy money to be made in exploiting the old fans.     

"  @Strubes:  $15 being the price point sucks for 2 reasons- That game was not refined in any way to warrant that price and for the fact that it's like some kind of standard. If Sega had made some much needed tweaks to the camera, control, graphics, sound, and not been total bastards about the DX content- then maybe $5. Maybe. But I guess there's easy money to be made in exploiting the old fans.      "

" @Strubes:  See, I meant tweak as in improve, which this game could definitely benefit from. I don't understand why improvement would upset you. "

THE COLORS FEEL SO RIIIIIGGGHT!
 
...Also, SA 1 & 2 are epic, whatever console they get ported to.

" THE COLORS FEEL SO RIIIIIGGGHT!  ...Also, SA 1 & 2 are epic, whatever console they get ported to. "