@EnduranceFun said:
@CrimsonNoir said:
Where did I accuse anyone of being sexist or only females can be feminist? I stated that this topic is relevant to gaming because females are part of gaming and sexism exist within it. You can criticize all you want, but the argument that Eeptog put down was that Patrick is being a judgmental snob and I don't have to hear this, which avoids the discussion altogether.
When you say that 'gaming subculture is not just men' in a feminist article's comment section, you imply that women are a large part of the culture and infer that feminism is inherently appealing to women. The first thing sure, the second thing nope. Actually that Patrick is a 'judgemental snob' is part of the discussion as has been said many times over, the 'negativity' is mostly in criticising yet another feminist article.
@sissylion: Yeah well, I liked my video games fine up until this point, I don't see how they'd improve by meddling with them to match whatever you'd want. I haven't seen any example of a 'sexist game' that has hurt a woman that isn't also just a result of the wider culture. Blaming it on games gets us nowhere.
I actually think you inferred all of that. I never once mentioned the word feminist, only that this topic is worth discussing. I don't see it as 'yet another feminist article', I see it as one of about inequality to a certain group of gamers and just because he writes a few of these articles doesn't diminish the importance of this topic.
@Eeptog said:
@CrimsonNoir said:
Why shouldn't he write about this stuff? The gaming subculture isn't just guys, just because you're tired of hearing about it doesn't mean it's not important. Being marginalized shouldn't be accepted and the fact that you think he's being all high and mighty just shows your fucked up thinking that not being misogynistic is some saintly act.
I suggest you re-read (or read for the first time, because it seems you didn't before replying) my post and actually make an effort to comprehend what I'm saying.
There is a difference between being non-misogynistic and trumpeting the "virtues" of feminism. Not being misogynistic isn't a saintly act and yet most people (Patrick being the main case here) act like supporting women somehow makes them a better person despite the fact he isn't actually doing anything.
As i said, if they really feel there is a problem they should do something about it instead of complaining on twitter and posting blogs such as this where they don't belong.
Also its hilarious that you make these kind of arguments while having a half naked pin up girl with a giant gun as your avatar.
You're just making up your own intentions for why Patrick wrote this article. Did he ever say anything in this article that put himself above others? All he did was state the issue and lent support towards it, but apparently that makes him a self-righteous douche bag for doing so. And I quite like my avatar, as well as Pin-Up art. I don't think less of women because I find them beautiful or sexy.
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