crunchUK

" When will Gran Turismo and Forza Motorsport fanboys realize that iRacing has been the most realistic driving simulator since 2008? "

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" @hunkaburningluv said:

" @mracoon said:

" @Sweep: Yup, I was there for the whole 9-10 or so hours. I'll probably do a write up of my experience later but let's just say it's not something I'd want to do again. "

 that would be a very interesting read mate!   I think it was great that the students were out protesting, I just cannot condone the violence....... "

The funniest thing is the son of a Pink Floyd band member swinging from the Cenotaph. I'm sure he has to worry about fees, but even more funny was his excuse afterwards of "I didn't know what it was"... you know, that gigantic stone block with "the glorious dead" engraved on it flying the union jack he was swinging from... even funnier is that he studies history at Cambridge.  
 
Still, it's a good argument for reducing access to university. also...  
 
@hunkaburningluv said:

 

  but the extra 'fees' as it were are payed for our of our budget, is it not, which is our right isn't it?   but to be honest, IMO it doesn't actually matter if we are up on this deal - it's about bloody time, we've been pumped far too many times by westminster (namely the tories) that even if it were unfair, I wouldn't actually give a flying fuck..... "

Yes. Part of your "budget" that everyone else except you pays for. And yes, I'm sure you know your history very well.............. "

  He's returned! My educationally challenged friend!!!! Did your carer allow you internet access? But so is yours is it not? Funded by borrowing is it not?  Our taxes are funnelled to westminster and then dished out. I'd be more than happy for our taxes to remain in Scotland along with all proceeds generated from the North Sea oil rights and the taxation from the oil companies up here.  "

" @CptBedlam: ...but people who drive and race love GT5.  Just people you don't, doesn't mean the driving community hates it.  Professional drivers have stated GT5 is the best driving sim out there, and when the world's top driver Sebastian Vettel goes on record with it, it doesn't matter at the end.  Just because casuals can't keep it, doesn't make it any less.  Sure gamers hate it, but people who drive cars love it.  GT5 has always been about the hardcore driving simulation.  Let me know when F1 drivers go on record on saying how good Forza is.  "

" @mracoon said:

" @Sweep: Yup, I was there for the whole 9-10 or so hours. I'll probably do a write up of my experience later but let's just say it's not something I'd want to do again. "

 that would be a very interesting read mate!   I think it was great that the students were out protesting, I just cannot condone the violence....... "

 

  but the extra 'fees' as it were are payed for our of our budget, is it not, which is our right isn't it?   but to be honest, IMO it doesn't actually matter if we are up on this deal - it's about bloody time, we've been pumped far too many times by westminster (namely the tories) that even if it were unfair, I wouldn't actually give a flying fuck..... "

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because it's an american sport for racing, that's why it's so dumb. It's either that or drag racing.

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I can't be bothered to deal with troll posts, so I'll just leave this here again. 
 
  Let's take braking, in a RWD car this is a ridiculously difficult task for some reason, but when exactly was the last time you saw a REAL car spin horribly under heavy braking? The answer is never, because pretty much every single road car has front brake bias, meaning of course that under braking the car STABILIZES itself. Look, and you'll see that the front disks on any road car are much bigger than the rears, it's pretty much inescapable and inherent (Especially since there is no way to upgrade the brakes in GT5). Hell, even F1 drivers use front brake bias 99.9% of the time, despite the rear tyres being much larger and benefiting from all that massive double diffusor and rear wing-induced downforce at the back.     
 
I'm not a forza fanboy, I couldn't care less about what I'm playing is called but forza is just as good as it gets without splashing out on a gaming PC/decent PC wheel/iRacing subscription. Imagine if a racing fan like me had bought a ps3 instead of an xbox in 2007... yeah...

" @crunchUK said:

" @KaosAngel said:

" The problems people have with the game aren't that important to the hardcore GT fans who just want the extreme difficulty and simulation.    To me, it's the best driving sim...and totally worth the $500+ I paid for the game, wheel, stand, etc.    It's a shitty ass game, but a perfect driving sim. "

This is so unbelievably wrong. Difficulty doesn't necessarily equate to accuracy or realism, and with GT5 in many cases it's completely off. Let's take braking, in a RWD car this is a ridiculously difficult task for some reason, but when exactly was the last time you saw a REAL car spin horribly under heavy braking? The answer is never, because pretty much every single road car has front brake bias, meaning of course that under braking the car STABILIZES itself. Look, and you'll see that the front disks on any road car are much bigger than the rears, it's pretty much inescapable and inherent (Especially since there is no way to upgrade the brakes in GT5). Hell, even F1 drivers use front brake bias 99.9% of the time, despite the rear tyres being much larger and benefiting from all that massive double diffusor and rear wing-induced downforce at the back.   It might come as a shock, but cars are actually designed to be easy to drive. Could you imagine how impossible driving in the real world would be if they handled anything like they did in GT5? It's easy to have a learning curve for braking in a video game, but in real life the trees are very 3 dimensional and solid upon impact. And yes, I drive in real life, I also go karting. And yes, I have played GT5.  "

Actually nearly all RWD cars in the game control differently. A fully upgraded/tuned  '89 Fairlady Z (FR) will stick to the road like glue around corners at high speeds, and is very easy to control exiting corners - you'll actually have a hard time trying to spin it. As for saying cars in the real world don't spin out, well, you don't usually employ harsh acceleration or drive around town at anywhere near the speeds you drive in game. Drive between 50 and 120 km/h in game and you'll find nearly any car is simple to control. You also don't see racing drivers spin out that often because they're professionals, and know a little bit more about racing cars than you do. I have no idea what position you feel you're in to comment on how cars handle just because you drive a car to the shops and go karting! Lol! Cars are designed to be easy enough to drive, not necessarily easy to race. "

" The problems people have with the game aren't that important to the hardcore GT fans who just want the extreme difficulty and simulation.    To me, it's the best driving sim...and totally worth the $500+ I paid for the game, wheel, stand, etc.    It's a shitty ass game, but a perfect driving sim. "

Set brake bias a few percent towards the front?