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So, how useful is the cable/TV stuff going to be for anyone who's not based in the US? As great as the Netflix implementation on the 360 now? When one of your main selling points potentially excludes roughly 95% of the worlds population, it's not exactly confidence building.

Also, what's the bet that Xbox Live stays subscription based and the ad-filled home screen is representative of what you see despite paying $60 a year?

Wouldn't the obvious thing be for @Rorie to actually be the dog? Or at least the equivalent of Scrappy Doo.

edit: which Hannah Barbera character was the handsiest?

I just bought and downloaded the game this morning (in Australia, which may have something to do with it?) and was able to download and unsuccessfully complete the Super Bike Boy track from RedLynx's Picks in Track Central.

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@D43M0N: I think you're overestimating the impact that the current reaction will have on sales. I can come up with plenty of examples of gamers crying about something, but those stories always seem to end in "well everyone bought it anyway." With Dark Souls in particular, I think the people who were going to buy it will buy it regardless of these issues, because there isn't really an alternative game. So go ahead, complain about problems. If they get fixed, great. If they don't get fixed, we'll all buy it anyways.

For my part, I'd actually prefer they just do a quick, simple port. I'm not playing Dark Souls for the graphics, I just want the gameplay and a stable framerate. I don't want to endanger this game's development by dumping time, money and expectations on it.

Usually I'd agree with you, but in the past those games have all been AAA titles (in marketing, not necessarily quality: Mass Effect 3, CoD:MW 2/3 et al). Dark Souls wasn't a huge seller to begin with from what I can find, especially in the west; it's a niche game, and as such Namco is already taking a fair risk. I think there'll be enough of a vocal minority to make them ask "why bother"; look at the two posters above me. "My high spec PC won't like this" and "fuck this" essentially. And that's from quotes that are taken out of context.

No amount of internet crying is going to stop a game from being developed, especially not a port with the main game already complete, especially especially not when a release date has already been announced. Once the game is out, I imagine Namco (or any company) would base decisions for future ports on the sales numbers, not what the internet has to say about it.

But that's basically what I've been saying for the last x posts? Namco have unrealistic sales expectations based on an internet petition, and will use Dark Souls as an example in the future to say fuck PC ports.

@D43M0N: I think you're overestimating the impact that the current reaction will have on sales. I can come up with plenty of examples of gamers crying about something, but those stories always seem to end in "well everyone bought it anyway." With Dark Souls in particular, I think the people who were going to buy it will buy it regardless of these issues, because there isn't really an alternative game. So go ahead, complain about problems. If they get fixed, great. If they don't get fixed, we'll all buy it anyways.

For my part, I'd actually prefer they just do a quick, simple port. I'm not playing Dark Souls for the graphics, I just want the gameplay and a stable framerate. I don't want to endanger this game's development by dumping time, money and expectations on it.

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@Asinies: But my point is that being overly vocal at this point will cause pretty irreparable damage to their 'cause' so to speak. Of all the console exclusive games, why choose one from a publisher that has a history of shovelling utter shit onto the platform?

Most of your points are off, in my opinion. Why PC gamers chose Dark Souls? Because they/we want to play Dark Souls, not a different game. I'm not even going to try to argue with you about anything else you wrote... man, you write everything like your opinion is a fact, but it's not. Even if you are 100% sure about something it doesn't mean that you are right.

Shit dude, we're in here for discussion! Tell me if you think I'm talking shit, it's not a bad thing :P

And as much as I'd like to say that my opinion is all fiction, previous history and current developer attitudes don't point to Namco going "oh lol, we ballsed it up, guess we'll just take the loss of money rofl". If this product does poorly, which it most likely will given the reactionary attitude of PC gamers in conjunction with a fairly niche title AND Namco takes a loss, they're going to be blaming everyone except themselves. A publisher isn't going to come out and say "well we really should have added in the graphics options", they're going to say "Hey, you asked for a port, it didn't sell, so go fuck yourselves PC gamers"...along with which the attitude that the PC community is already having on what is largely conjecture is most likely going to result in companies taking less risk than before.

I won't go ahead and say it's fact, because stranger things have happened, but given the current state of things, I wouldn't expect it to go much differently. I hope it does, I really do, but it probably won't.

@Asinies: But my point is that being overly vocal at this point will cause pretty irreparable damage to their 'cause' so to speak. Of all the console exclusive games, why choose one from a publisher that has a history of shovelling utter shit onto the platform?

@wmaustin55: I think the problem is that the "purist" PC gaming community is one of the most reactionary communities out there. This will simply be used as ammo by companies to not listen to the internet and/or petitions for PC ports in the future; there will be plenty of people not bothering to buy it anymore over one vague statement taken out of context, and when you add in the piracy issues, this is going to make the attractiveness of a PC port even lower for companies. Namco is expecting decentish sales, and hence put out a port with some extra content slapped in. If those sales fail to be realized over this, they're going to blame the community and PC gaming as a whole, and it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to have other publishers follow suit.

The Dark Souls petition always seemed like a bad idea for everyone involved, and now I'm finally seeing why. I'm not blaming the PC gaming community solely (Namco/FromSoftware are putting in zero effort, basically), but the vocal minority that were screaming "Port it! PORT IT!" will now be screaming "Fuck you! FUCK YOU!" and, well, it's not going to end well for anyone involved.

@iglock: getting (NG+ ability spoilers) flight and deal-with-it glasses is super tempting.

@Mnemoidian: I'm trying to S-Rank The Saboteur at the same time, so it's a nice divide between the two :) I think after I finish this run I'll end up coming back in a week or so when some other OCD tragic has done a complete 100% walkthrough with all the NG+ goodies.