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#1 Posted by DarthOrange (4124 posts) -

Updated the original post. Added Lindsey Graham, Jeb Bush, Rick Perry and Donald Trump under the Republicans. Added Lincoln Chafee under the Democrats.

In other news, my boy Bernie Sanders has been doing surprising well. He was only 8 points behind Hilary in a Wisconsin straw poll.

There was a pretty good blog post about him in the Huffington Post if you want to read a bit more about him. It is filled with a ton of other links as well.

#2 Posted by DarthOrange (4124 posts) -

@456nto said:
@fredchuckdave said:

@demoskinos: I'm aware, it just seems like an inordinately pretentious word to use unless you're using it as a reference; if a word isn't readily recognizable in the context that an educated viewer can understand it you should pretty much never use it no matter what. English has enough obscurity as is, no need to make it completely unintelligible. If I'm reading Cormac McCarthy and I see a word I don't recognize I enjoy looking it up, on a random internet forum not so much. Excessively erudite verbiage is not a thing worth pursuing.

Just because we're talking about politics doesn't mean we need to pretend that politics is the realm of Ivory Tower academics or anything, it's just the opposite actually (at least in America).

I'm with you. If you said the word "milquetoast" out loud in public, people would laugh at you like you just farted very loudly. What a pompous word.

Would you guys mind telling me where you are from? I am really curious about where in the world milquetoast can be misconstrued as someone being a pompous ivory tower academic.

#3 Posted by DarthOrange (4124 posts) -

@demoskinos: I'm aware, it just seems like an inordinately pretentious word to use unless you're using it as a reference; if a word isn't readily recognizable in the context that an educated viewer can understand it you should pretty much never use it no matter what. English has enough obscurity as is, no need to make it completely unintelligible.

I don't think milquetoast is a particularly uncommon word. And speaking of context, Romney was often described as milquetoast by his detractors around the 2012 election. Googling the words "Mitt Romney milquetoast" reveals a plethora of links from 2012 about him.





Also we are on a message board. If there is ever a word you don't understand Google is literally right at your fingertips.

#4 Posted by DarthOrange (4124 posts) -

If all the people who were sad that Bernie Sanders "doesn't have a chance" actually got out there and started volunteering for his campaign, he'd have a chance.

Yup. People create a self fulfilling prophecy when they spread that kind of stuff.

How can anyone possibly think that voting for one superficial face or another will make any difference to the interests and desires of the people who finance the party? Do you think electing one CEO or another is going to change what the shareholders want from the company?

Elections are not how different political ideologies shake out and determine the nature of governance; lobbying is how that works. Government is a business and if you don't have capital in it, your vote might as well go in a suggestions box.

That said, I dunno, if you're liberal vote for Sanders I guess. Even if he were to win, what would actually be different from the ole Hil-dawg? Maybe vote for a third party. If it's going to be an unethical, money-grubbing clusterfuck no matter what, at least try to create some actual competition.

You're telling me you honestly think Hillary and Sanders would be the same? Even just looking at the donors between Clinton and Sanders you can see the difference.

#5 Posted by DarthOrange (4124 posts) -
@punched said:

It's too bad that it's pretty much already locked into Bush vs Clinton. I don't think either would make a very good president. In an ideal world, you'd end up with Paul vs Warren but not a chance that happens.

I can't help but feel disillusioned at this point. I still pay attention to the issues, but this presidential contest is Hilary Clinton's to lose and I don't think the Republicans will get their shit together enough to avoid either a far-right crazy or a Romney-Esque milquetoast centrist.

So are you guys planning on voting in the primaries or nah?

@joshwent said:
@darthorange said:

I present the question, who do you feel would make the best president and why?

Absolutely and definitively none of the above.

Any Republican or Democrat in the White House, no matter who they may be and how strong their integrity, will become little more than a mouthpiece for their party, and therefore powerless to enact or even encourage any lasting positive change. The Obama that ran and won thanks to the teeming teary eyed masses, is objectively not the Obama as president. And as optimistically earnest as someone like Bernie seems, I guarantee you he'd be a different person in the Office.

The only hope the US has to end the posturing, trend driven politicking that leaves the needy needing and only serves those already in power to gather more of it... is to vote third party.

I deeply encourage any Democrats here to even briefly peruse the Green Party platform. Fwiw, I personally disagree with most of those positions, but for others here who feel they fit along the "liberal" lines, the Green Party is working for everything you care about. That other "liberal" party that panders as hard as it can while doing as little as possible, has become a hollow sham. Yet tens of millions of well meaning folks gleefully feed that machine hoping "this time it'll be different".

It won't.

I hope that if enough people vote 3rd party maybe the big 2 will at least shape up.

To you guys saying you will vote third party because you feel that is the best way to move towards change, how do you feel about the Supreme Court? At least one or two of the current justices are likely on their way out, so whoever is president is going to get to appoint the next justicesesjustice's justices' (spelling?). Do you guys feel that either party would appoint a similar person or do you feel that helping a third party get closer to winning is more important?

#6 Posted by DarthOrange (4124 posts) -

@bocam said:

@jack_lafayette said:

Also, to the OP: try not to level criticism against the personal interests and engagements of people you're attempting to mobilize. It has the tendency to either put them on the defensive or make them feel like shit, neither of which encourages the action you want them to take.

Quoted for emphasis.

Ah shit did I fuck up somewhere? What part should I change and how?

#7 Posted by DarthOrange (4124 posts) -

For me personally, Bernie Sanders is the best person for the job. I have yet to find a single thing I disagree with him about on the various issues he has discussed. His "12 Steps Forward Economic Agenda" was really what solidified my support for him. A transcript of the video below is available here if you would prefer to just read what he has to say.

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Infrastructure and climate change are both important topics that deserve more attention and as he mentions in the video, focusing on them provides the added benefit of creating new jobs. Points 8, 10 and 11 about the price of education, healthcare and social security are also great.

8. In today's highly competitive global economy, millions of Americans are unable to afford the higher education they need in order to get good-paying jobs. Further, with both parents now often at work, most working-class families can't locate the high-quality and affordable child care they need for their kids. Quality education in America, from child care to higher education, must be affordable for all. Without a high-quality and affordable educational system, we will be unable to compete globally and our standard of living will continue to decline.

10. The United States must join the rest of the industrialized world and recognize that health care is a right of all, and not a privilege. Despite the fact that more than 40 million Americans have no health insurance, we spend almost twice as much per capita on health care as any other nation. We need to establish a Medicare-for-all, single-payer system.

11. Millions of seniors live in poverty and we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country. We must strengthen the social safety net, not weaken it. Instead of cutting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and nutrition programs, we should be expanding these programs.

I am a firm believer that the government can and should help those who are are in need. Not only is it morally the right thing to do, but it ends up benefiting society as a whole. By bringing those people at the bottom up it provides more opportunities for these people to make a positive difference to the world. Help one person, and that person goes on to help someone else and so on and so forth. Butterfly effect and all that jazz.

Even Charizard agrees that Bernie is the best choice.

Even if he doesn't win, if enough people show their support for him then it sends the message that what he is saying is important and people agree with it. The same goes for every other candidate. Giant Bomb loves having fun with its 404 pages so you guys of all people should appreciate the 404 page for his site. https://berniesanders.com/404

#8 Edited by DarthOrange (4124 posts) -

I'm curious as to how many of the American duders here on this fourm pay attention to politics. How many of you take the time to check out the main talking points of all the people running for president? Do you even vote at all or do you abstain?

There are some people who consider talking about politics taboo and believe it leads to nothing but trouble. I strongly disagree. More people should discuss politics and talk about what matters the most to them and why. Often times it seems like people can get intrenched in their own viewpoints. If you take the time to talk to others and figure out why other people feel the way they do then that leads to understanding which broadens your horizons and allows you to see the issues in a new light.

Another frustrating thing are those who are apathetic to the political process on the whole. The kind of people who say "it doesn't even matter, both sides are the same." It only takes one minute of research to quickly realize how different the people running are. Even within parties the various contenders have some radically different view points.

Don't be that guy.

To the American duders, if you haven't already, I have to ask that you please take the time to at the very least take a look through the official websites for the people running for president and learn what they look like. Some of you spent hours arguing about and researching sexism in video games. That's great. Now take some of that passion and focus it on what you feel the major issues facing the country are. Spend some time investigating the people who are running for President and see who's ideals best line up with your own and tell others why. To those outside of the United States, you also may find it fascinating to take a look at just how different these candidates are. Images were taken from The New York Times.

The following people are currently running as Republicans.

PersonOfficial Website
Ted Cruz
Rand Paul
Marco Rubio
Ben Carson
Carly Fiorina
Mike Huckabee
Rick Santorum
George Pataki
Jeb Bush

Lindsey Graham
Rick Perry
Donald Trump
Bobby Jindal


The following people are currently running as Democrats.

PersonOfficial Website
Hillary Clinton
Bernie Sanders
Martin O'Malley
Lincoln Chafee


So, now that you are more informed

I present the question, who do you feel would make the best president and why? Which issues are most important to you?

#9 Posted by DarthOrange (4124 posts) -

I would be fine with that if it happened but there is no way in hell that game was anywhere close to being done.

#10 Posted by DarthOrange (4124 posts) -

2011 was the peak of this entire website by a fucking country mile. Everything was perfect and the podcast was at its best. Everyday on this site was a new pleasant surprise and it felt like anything could happen. Everyone also seemed genuinely enthused about what they did, including the interns. Things were so great that that was the year I finally quit lurking and actually made an account here.

And of course, the single greatest podcast episode ever was in 2011 (the California Extreme/Narc/Applebees suicide/RC Cola twitter episode):