The Lord of the Rings: Conquest (Rant)

I love Lord of the Rings, and i love Tolkien, and being British i find my self having a huge appreciation for the setting and its "close to home" European flavour.

So in theory, if you take what the films did with Battles, and roll that into Battlefield/Battlefront, i should immediately fall in love with The Lord of the Rings Conquest...Wrong.

What im suffering with here, is atmosphere and accuracy, two things! that matter the most, so let the Rant begin. Baring in mind that this is just the demo, AND i played it on the PS3 (thanks to the ever so fond of Gold, Microsoft) And i dont hate the game, for the record.

Frist! Who the fuck wrote this stuff? in Training, the script for your, well whatever he is, is down right awful! not only is the accent totally off, its delivered in the most cheesy fasion i've ever had the misfortune to be cheesed with. Yeah you could say in some cases, accents in the LotR films are generally bad...when your Viggo Mortensen (aww, no, seriosuly, i love Viggo, he does it well, im just playin)

Oh and to add to that...it felt like i was playing Resistance: Fall of Man, because he reminded me so heavily of the commander in that game, it also sounded like it was coming over a radio...could that be just the PS3 version? i don't know.

Second! since when was a simple warrior in the force of good, able to glide along the floor like a flaming torpedo? now that probably won't bug most, but for me, i'd rather have my LotR game more down to earth, or rather, down to middle-earth (if you like spitting bad jokes!) or at least down to the films...which is what this game is based on. Also, combo's for the warrior look awful, its like he has a bad back problem.

And please, a long bow is not an assault rifle, i understand why it's a hold down button to shoot affair, but it feels stupid. And having multiple mages all using a dodgy shield effect, strafing around the map, just throws me off completely, for the love God, change the effect on that, all it reminds me of is Star Wars (i wonder why)

Yes this is a game, its bound to have more outlandish things than a film might have (Crank 2: High Voltage is probably living proof of the opposite) but still, i want my faithful recreation, i guess i'll have to play the old last gen games based on the movies to get that.

I couldn't play much multiplayer, due to my PS3's lack of faith with my router, i kept getting connection errors mid-game.

Dont get me wrong, will i still buy it? Hell yeah i will! these are just mere ranty complaints, the games still fun, and while the only thing that really captures the feel so far is the music, im sure the full game will deliver a little bit more atmosphere. I hope

EDIT: Changed my mind, i probably won't buy it, man, it sucks!


He swears to protect you!















36 Comments
37 Comments
Posted by Death_Burnout

I love Lord of the Rings, and i love Tolkien, and being British i find my self having a huge appreciation for the setting and its "close to home" European flavour.

So in theory, if you take what the films did with Battles, and roll that into Battlefield/Battlefront, i should immediately fall in love with The Lord of the Rings Conquest...Wrong.

What im suffering with here, is atmosphere and accuracy, two things! that matter the most, so let the Rant begin. Baring in mind that this is just the demo, AND i played it on the PS3 (thanks to the ever so fond of Gold, Microsoft) And i dont hate the game, for the record.

Frist! Who the fuck wrote this stuff? in Training, the script for your, well whatever he is, is down right awful! not only is the accent totally off, its delivered in the most cheesy fasion i've ever had the misfortune to be cheesed with. Yeah you could say in some cases, accents in the LotR films are generally bad...when your Viggo Mortensen (aww, no, seriosuly, i love Viggo, he does it well, im just playin)

Oh and to add to that...it felt like i was playing Resistance: Fall of Man, because he reminded me so heavily of the commander in that game, it also sounded like it was coming over a radio...could that be just the PS3 version? i don't know.

Second! since when was a simple warrior in the force of good, able to glide along the floor like a flaming torpedo? now that probably won't bug most, but for me, i'd rather have my LotR game more down to earth, or rather, down to middle-earth (if you like spitting bad jokes!) or at least down to the films...which is what this game is based on. Also, combo's for the warrior look awful, its like he has a bad back problem.

And please, a long bow is not an assault rifle, i understand why it's a hold down button to shoot affair, but it feels stupid. And having multiple mages all using a dodgy shield effect, strafing around the map, just throws me off completely, for the love God, change the effect on that, all it reminds me of is Star Wars (i wonder why)

Yes this is a game, its bound to have more outlandish things than a film might have (Crank 2: High Voltage is probably living proof of the opposite) but still, i want my faithful recreation, i guess i'll have to play the old last gen games based on the movies to get that.

I couldn't play much multiplayer, due to my PS3's lack of faith with my router, i kept getting connection errors mid-game.

Dont get me wrong, will i still buy it? Hell yeah i will! these are just mere ranty complaints, the games still fun, and while the only thing that really captures the feel so far is the music, im sure the full game will deliver a little bit more atmosphere. I hope

EDIT: Changed my mind, i probably won't buy it, man, it sucks!


He swears to protect you!















Posted by brukaoru

Wow. I either completely forgot about this game or never heard about it. I need to check out the demo sometime, but it sounds like it has a lot of problems.

Posted by End_Boss

I created a failed thread about this being one of the least talked about games of '09 a while back... Due to Microsoft's finnickiness or my connection's high levels of fail I wasn't able to download it. This scary review makes me want to go back and try again. I'm a huge Hobbit fan (not so much of the trilogy that came after) and so I recently picked up The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria. The next game I wanted to add to my collection of nerd was this one. After that tirade, I suppose I'll have to be more wary of it.

Posted by Death_Burnout

Yeah i didnt mean to discredit The Hobbit, since i didnt mention it.

I've been worried too, with Mercs 2 being disappointing, i thought this would be too, and it kinda is.

I'm not surprised you haven't heard of it haha, where are the ad's hmm? wheres the marketing? oh right, thats why there isnt any (ouch)

No its not terrible, its just not what it should be.

Posted by Ryu

I think your right about the bow they should make it fire slower but be more powerful.

Posted by Otacon

I completely agree on the voice acting, it actually had me laughing it was so bad.

Posted by 10MP

i only played for 30 minutes or so but why can mages out melee warriors and scouts get instant kill?

Posted by ArbitraryWater

It's ok, but all the classes seem be unbalanced in some way, like how a scout can backstab gandalf if he gets behind the wizard while invisible, or how an archer has two arrows that regenerate fast that either knock you down or slow you down and poison you. I never had this problem with battlefront.

Posted by Dark_Shadow

I played it. I hate it. - I blame EA.

Posted by ChestyMcGee

What the hell happened to your spelling and grammar in this blog?

Posted by Death_Unicorn
Posted by Death_Burnout

i'm glad to see im not alone here.

Oh and dude, since when do you care about spelling in grammar in a rant post!? no one else seems to care, maybe because there isn't much wrong with it. At least comment on the subject matter?

Posted by StaticFalconar
There are more problems
Edited by Dark_Shadow

What about that lame voice telling you what you need to do? It looks like you got a war-radio in your head and someone is "contacting" you. (I know you can turn if off, still...)
And the game looks like an Arcade Game, controlls are way too easy and you just need to "smash and spank" - It's not funny at all, after some minutes it's just repetitive and you get tired of it.

Posted by SpikeDelight

I am surprised that, given your LotR fandom, you don't completely HATE the game. I sure as fuck do. It fucking sucks. Everything about it sucks. And speaking of accuracy, there are only 2 wizards in LotR, Gandolf and Saruman, NOT A MILLION FUCKING "MAGE" ASSHOLES RUNING AROUND! Second, the soldier vs. soldier battles are a fucking joke. Instead of being carefully thought-out attacks with blocking and parrying it's just a combo-fest where you blindly mash the buttons until the other guy does that exaggerated fall move and you keep hitting his body. I would imagine a good version being more like Soul Calibur but in a MP game like this. Everything about this game FUCKING SUCKS. I hate how so many people I know like it. IT IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORST GAME I'VE EVER PLAYED! I'm not even joking. I'm not acting out of impulse. I hate this game. I hate it so much that I rage every time I hear that someone even likes it. It deserves to have every copy thrown in a landfill so that no one on Earth has to be subjected to this. Everybody who likes it only does because they "accept" that because it's made by Pandemic it must be good and they just don't get it. No. It fucking. Sucks.

Also the arrows should come out when you release the trigger not when you fucking press it! And the aiming is so floaty/inaccurate/shitty because you hardly ever hit someone fairly and when you do it's fucking cheap because they get knocked down with like 75% damage. I lost a little faith in humanity the day I played that game. To think, people of this species have created such an atrosity. It. Fucking. Sucks. I. Fucking. Hate. That. Game.

RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted by Dark_Shadow
SpikeDelight said:
"I am surprised that, given your LotR fandom, you don't completely HATE the game. I sure as fuck do. It fucking sucks. Everything about it sucks. And speaking of accuracy, there are only 2 wizards in LotR, Gandolf and Saruman, NOT A MILLION FUCKING "MAGE" ASSHOLES RUNING AROUND! Second, the soldier vs. soldier battles are a fucking joke. Instead of being carefully thought-out attacks with blocking and parrying it's just a combo-fest where you blindly mash the buttons until the other guy does that exaggerated fall move and you keep hitting his body. I would imagine a good version being more like Soul Calibur but in a MP game like this. Everything about this game FUCKING SUCKS. I hate how so many people I know like it. IT IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORST GAME I'VE EVER PLAYED! I'm not even joking. I'm not acting out of impulse. I hate this game. I hate it so much that I rage every time I hear that someone even likes it. It deserves to have every copy thrown in a landfill so that no one on Earth has to be subjected to this. Everybody who likes it only does because they "accept" that because it's made by Pandemic it must be good and they just don't get it. No. It fucking. Sucks.
Also the arrows should come out when you release the trigger not when you fucking press it! And the aiming is so floaty/inaccurate/shitty because you hardly ever hit someone fairly and when you do it's fucking cheap because they get knocked down with like 75% damage. I lost a little faith in humanity the day I played that game. To think, people of this species have created such an atrosity. It. Fucking. Sucks. I. Fucking. Hate. That. Game.

RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"
Agreed. Though, it isn't the worst game I've ever played, but it is close. - I was expecting something a lot better. - Again, I blame EA.
Posted by Death_Burnout
Dark_Shadow said:
"What about that lame voice telling you what you need to do? It looks like you got a war-radio in your head and someone is "contacting" you. (I know you can turn if off, still...)"

lol thats what i was talking about, its dumb.

SpikeDelight said:
"I am surprised that, given your LotR fandom, you don't completely HATE the game. I sure as fuck do. It fucking sucks. Everything about it sucks. And speaking of accuracy, there are only 2 wizards in LotR, Gandolf and Saruman, NOT A MILLION FUCKING "MAGE" ASSHOLES RUNING AROUND! Second, the soldier vs. soldier battles are a fucking joke. Instead of being carefully thought-out attacks with blocking and parrying it's just a combo-fest where you blindly mash the buttons until the other guy does that exaggerated fall move and you keep hitting his body. I would imagine a good version being more like Soul Calibur but in a MP game like this. Everything about this game FUCKING SUCKS. I hate how so many people I know like it. IT IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORST GAME I'VE EVER PLAYED! I'm not even joking. I'm not acting out of impulse. I hate this game. I hate it so much that I rage every time I hear that someone even likes it. It deserves to have every copy thrown in a landfill so that no one on Earth has to be subjected to this. Everybody who likes it only does because they "accept" that because it's made by Pandemic it must be good and they just don't get it. No. It fucking. Sucks.
Also the arrows should come out when you release the trigger not when you fucking press it! And the aiming is so floaty/inaccurate/shitty because you hardly ever hit someone fairly and when you do it's fucking cheap because they get knocked down with like 75% damage. I lost a little faith in humanity the day I played that game. To think, people of this species have created such an atrosity. It. Fucking. Sucks. I. Fucking. Hate. That. Game.

RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"
Hahaha im with you there, especially about the bow, i guess i dont hate it as a game per se? i certainly hate it in the sense thats it's not Lord of the Rings at all, thats for sure. Perhaps if i play it again i'll go..."yeah...the gameplay sucks too"
Edited by heavymtlhead

I'm also a big fan of LOTR and I played the demo. I was not impressed. I played Battlefront 2 and enjoyed it and was somewhat looking forward to this game. I loved the games based on The Two Towers and The Return of the King and if they took the gameplay from those two games and combined it with the formula in Battlefront, that would be an awesome game.

Posted by Death_Burnout
heavymtlhead said:
"I'm also a big fan of LOTR and I played the demo. I was not impressed. I played Battlefront 2 and enjoyed it and was somewhat looking forward to this game. I loved the games based on The Two Towers and The Return of the King and if they took the gameplay from those two games and combined it which the formula in Battlefront, that would be an awesome game."
I hear that!
Posted by zityz

Why can't they just take Ninty-nine Nights, add in the LotR lore/characters, add more depth and mulitplayer/co-op and call it a day? WHY?!!

Posted by PureRok
SpikeDelight said:
"I am surprised that, given your LotR fandom, you don't completely HATE the game. I sure as fuck do. It fucking sucks. Everything about it sucks. And speaking of accuracy, there are only 2 wizards in LotR, Gandolf and Saruman, NOT A MILLION FUCKING "MAGE" ASSHOLES RUNING AROUND! Second, the soldier vs. soldier battles are a fucking joke. Instead of being carefully thought-out attacks with blocking and parrying it's just a combo-fest where you blindly mash the buttons until the other guy does that exaggerated fall move and you keep hitting his body. I would imagine a good version being more like Soul Calibur but in a MP game like this. Everything about this game FUCKING SUCKS. I hate how so many people I know like it. IT IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORST GAME I'VE EVER PLAYED! I'm not even joking. I'm not acting out of impulse. I hate this game. I hate it so much that I rage every time I hear that someone even likes it. It deserves to have every copy thrown in a landfill so that no one on Earth has to be subjected to this. Everybody who likes it only does because they "accept" that because it's made by Pandemic it must be good and they just don't get it. No. It fucking. Sucks.
Also the arrows should come out when you release the trigger not when you fucking press it! And the aiming is so floaty/inaccurate/shitty because you hardly ever hit someone fairly and when you do it's fucking cheap because they get knocked down with like 75% damage. I lost a little faith in humanity the day I played that game. To think, people of this species have created such an atrosity. It. Fucking. Sucks. I. Fucking. Hate. That. Game.

RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"
There are more than two wizards. I remember them mentioning some sort of council in one of the books.
Posted by Jayge_
StaticFalconar said:
"
There are more problems
"
This. The game was utter donkey balls. Every class is unbalanced in some way (although they are not balanced in their unbalanced-ness). The maps are shitty. The graphics are horrible. YOU CAN'T WALK IN FUCKING RIVERS. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? XD

PureRok said:
"SpikeDelight said:
"I am surprised that, given your LotR fandom, you don't completely HATE the game. I sure as fuck do. It fucking sucks. Everything about it sucks. And speaking of accuracy, there are only 2 wizards in LotR, Gandolf and Saruman, NOT A MILLION FUCKING "MAGE" ASSHOLES RUNING AROUND! Second, the soldier vs. soldier battles are a fucking joke. Instead of being carefully thought-out attacks with blocking and parrying it's just a combo-fest where you blindly mash the buttons until the other guy does that exaggerated fall move and you keep hitting his body. I would imagine a good version being more like Soul Calibur but in a MP game like this. Everything about this game FUCKING SUCKS. I hate how so many people I know like it. IT IS WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORST GAME I'VE EVER PLAYED! I'm not even joking. I'm not acting out of impulse. I hate this game. I hate it so much that I rage every time I hear that someone even likes it. It deserves to have every copy thrown in a landfill so that no one on Earth has to be subjected to this. Everybody who likes it only does because they "accept" that because it's made by Pandemic it must be good and they just don't get it. No. It fucking. Sucks.
Also the arrows should come out when you release the trigger not when you fucking press it! And the aiming is so floaty/inaccurate/shitty because you hardly ever hit someone fairly and when you do it's fucking cheap because they get knocked down with like 75% damage. I lost a little faith in humanity the day I played that game. To think, people of this species have created such an atrosity. It. Fucking. Sucks. I. Fucking. Hate. That. Game.

RRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
"
There are more than two wizards. I remember them mentioning some sort of council in one of the books."
There are many, many wizards. Any true LoTR universe fan would know that.
Posted by TwoOneFive

the demo was funny it was so bad. 

Posted by Death_Burnout
zityz said:
"Why can't they just take Ninty-nine Nights, add in the LotR lore/characters, add more depth and mulitplayer/co-op and call it a day? WHY?!!"
A very good point.
Edited by wowpaladin09

I like this game the graphics is good but I don't like the gameplay. I like World of Warcraft more than this, even it's so hard to farm wow gold nowadays.

Posted by Death_Burnout

Even i like WoW more than this.

Posted by Dark_Shadow
Death_Burnout said:
"Even i like WoW more than this."
Of course you do. (But they are a bit different in genres.)
Posted by Death_Burnout
Dark_Shadow said:
"Death_Burnout said:
"Even i like WoW more than this."
Of course you do. (But they are a bit different in genres.)"
completely different. im just saying, i like it more than this...same goes for a LOT of things.
Posted by Dark_Shadow
Death_Burnout said:
"Dark_Shadow said:
"Death_Burnout said:
"Even i like WoW more than this."
Of course you do. (But they are a bit different in genres.)"
completely different. im just saying, i like it more than this...same goes for a LOT of things."
Yeah, I know what you mean.
Edited by Death_Burnout

Yeah.

And i meant i like a lot of things more than LotR Conquest, not that i like WoW more than a lot of things, just for the record, haha

Edited by Death_Burnout

After listening to this weeks Giant Bombcast, i wonder what the staff will have to say when the game is finally out? and whether they will review it...I know Jeff doesn't even like the concept, nor the setting in any way, since he thinks it's...boring.

But yeah i don't expect this to do critically well.

Posted by Otacon

Every time SpikeDelight posts, I agree with him.

Posted by HandsomeDead

This rage is hilarious. Nothing like LotR fans getting their anger on.

Posted by Jayge_
HandsomeDead said:
"This rage is hilarious. Nothing like LotR fans getting their anger on."
I would insert some sort of Ent quote here, but that would be way too nerdy, even for me.
Posted by HandsomeDead
Jayge said:
"HandsomeDead said:
"This rage is hilarious. Nothing like LotR fans getting their anger on."
I would insert some sort of Ent quote here, but that would be way too nerdy, even for me."
I don't know what one of them is anyway.
Edited by pause422

I think its something that will be ok for a rent, and some co-op on the campaigns, but as far as the multiplayer goes.....the way the game is built with the classes it just doesn't work at all. On top of the servers are so fucking laggy. But thats EA's dedicated servers for you. Its far worse with the blend of melee and range cuz of all the constant lag.

Posted by Death_Burnout
Jayge said:
"HandsomeDead said:
"This rage is hilarious. Nothing like LotR fans getting their anger on."
I would insert some sort of Ent quote here, but that would be way too nerdy, even for me."
Yeah, dont do that, thats like digging your own grave.

pause422 said:
"I think its something that will be ok for a rent, and some co-op on the campaigns, but as far as the multiplayer goes.....the way the game is built with the classes it just doesn't work at all. On top of the servers are so fucking laggy. But thats EA's dedicated servers for you. Its far worse with the blend of melee and range cuz of all the constant lag."
Also, yeah, not even sure if i agree with the concept of 16 dudes running around attempting to melee. Up the player count, fix that lag, and make it less goofy, i'd have more chance of agreeing then.