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#1 Posted by DefaultProphet (577 posts) -

It's moving forward, the backwards responses are evidence that things are dramatically changing the those who are don' want it are going to be left behind.

#2 Posted by DefaultProphet (577 posts) -

@drx25 said:
@turboman said:

Them hitting a million now is a shock honestly. Apparently the free month in November really helped (anyone know if they forced your credit card to sign up?), and now they're doing another free month into WrestleMania.

I guess the UK numbers were very good along with the free month. Also, the build up to WrestleMania must be helping them tremendously (it certainly hasn't be the television shows).

Stock price is up to over $12.00 now, and I'm guessing it will grow from now until Mania and WWE subscription numbers drop again.

The craziest thing about all of this, if Dave Meltzer is to be believed, is that they had more new subscribers Monday and Today than Sunday. So, you have to figure that people got the network to see what all the fuss was about/needed the crazy backlash to remind them Mania season was starting than people actively going "I'm going to skip seeing The Royal Rumble live and sign up the day after". Hell maybe a bunch of people got it after going to Rumble parties.

Although, the thing to remember is that with all the ups and downs they've had with the Network, while 1 million was the original break even number at launch (i.e. US only), who knows what the current break even number is and we'll have to see how they answer any questions about profitability at the next investor's call.

Unrelated, I've been thinking about Reigns more and I think WWE got really lucky with the snow storm as, while he'll never get that 100% babyface reaction, the time between The Rumble and the next live show that matters (I'm not counting Smackdown) will probably temper people and won't have the chance to catch on like Bootista.

http://pwtorch.com/artman2/publish/WWE_News_3/article_81542.shtml#.VMh_S2jF_uw Network was profitable as of Q3. Overall profits were still down but at 731k subs the network was in the black by 2.3 mil.

#3 Posted by DefaultProphet (577 posts) -

@mezmero said:

@defaultprophet: Shhhhhhh. Chikara is on and it's already better than that single match in a bad pay per view. Well maybe not on the stable streaming side of things. I'll take Mr. Touchdown over Brock Lesnar any day of the week. Welcome everyone to Monday Night Chikara.

You are a crazy person with crazy thoughts full of bananas ideas.

#4 Posted by DefaultProphet (577 posts) -

@mezmero said:
@defaultprophet said:

@mezmero said:

For the people creaming the pants over that triple threat I'm perfectly fine explaining how it wasn't a flawless marble statue of a match. Not saying it was a bad match but I would not call it a five star showing. I don't plan on rewatching it so for all I know this stuff wasn't a big deal..

-Seth's big phoenix splash spot was more of a phoenix face plant into Cena's abs

-The barricade spot looked like shit. Brock wanders over, stands around, gets tackled through the barrier by Cena. Boring.

-Brock Lesnar a dude who is getting a huge pay check as part time talent was given like a ten minute break after his big table spot in one of the only matches he has to wrestle this year. Maybe he was really hurt but it's yet another thing to make the rest of the roster look like shit.

-More German Suplexes. I was sick of them at Summerslam and that has not changed. Unless he's dedicating each one to Chris Benoit it's a waste of a wrestling move.

Phoenix Splash - Come on that's looking for something to complain about

Barricade - Brock had just taken 3 AAs and a curb stomp. It makes sense he was groggy and out on his feet.

Lesnar out of the match - Oh come on

Germans - I'm giving you side eyes

i love Seth Rollins but you can't fuck up a spot like that when you have a guy like Ibushi out there who can nail that move flawlessly.

He also no sold a bunch of briefcase shots. Was the oxygen outside of the ring thinner or something?

i hope they let whoever their next top guy is take ten minute breaks during title defenses.

Boooooooring.

It was a triple threat! It's built on one dude being out of the ring for X time.

#5 Edited by DefaultProphet (577 posts) -

@mezmero said:

For the people creaming the pants over that triple threat I'm perfectly fine explaining how it wasn't a flawless marble statue of a match. Not saying it was a bad match but I would not call it a five star showing. I don't plan on rewatching it so for all I know this stuff wasn't a big deal..

-Seth's big phoenix splash spot was more of a phoenix face plant into Cena's abs

-The barricade spot looked like shit. Brock wanders over, stands around, gets tackled through the barrier by Cena. Boring.

-Brock Lesnar a dude who is getting a huge pay check as part time talent was given like a ten minute break after his big table spot in one of the only matches he has to wrestle this year. Maybe he was really hurt but it's yet another thing to make the rest of the roster look like shit.

-More German Suplexes. I was sick of them at Summerslam and that has not changed. Unless he's dedicating each one to Chris Benoit it's a waste of a wrestling move.

Phoenix Splash - Come on that's looking for something to complain about

Barricade - Brock had just taken 3 AAs and a curb stomp. It makes sense he was groggy and out on his feet.

Lesnar out of the match - Oh come on

Germans - I'm giving you side eyes(Edit) and I don't even like Lesnar! I've described him as a big angry baby since Summerslam.

#6 Posted by DefaultProphet (577 posts) -

They should have used tonight to bring back the 24/7 Hardcore championship in the hotel the wrestlers are hold up in.

#7 Posted by DefaultProphet (577 posts) -

So #30 comes in and Ziggler is over. He comes in has a super kick party and eliminated Barrett and then Cesaro. From that point on it is literally the worst booking a rumble has had. Unconscious Ziggler, Bray, and Ambrose dumped unceremoniously over the top rope. Reigns sneaky dumps Kane and Show who got into a slapfight cause reasons. Rock does jack shit for Reigns. Rusev runs in and does.......nothing. Why wasn't there an Accolade test of strength spot? Cause reasons.

Earlier on things they fucked up: No Dvon. Okay so Truth is there and he.......doesn't get a table. No Mizdow vs Miz spot in the ring. They tease a Harper/Rowan tag team turn and then do absolutely nothing with it. Then Bray dumps Bryan completely without build up. What the hell.

UGH. And now Raw is going to rebroadcast that rumble? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? That's literally the worst thing they could do. Jesus.

#8 Posted by DefaultProphet (577 posts) -

@hadoken101 said:

@apparatus_unearth said:

The triple threat match was incredible and the Rumble itself was totally fine. Fans on the internet are unsatisfiable fucks, I swear.

Well that's just flat out stupid to say given recent reactions in this thread. Let me point you about 15 pages back where there was a little show called Wrestle Kingdom 9, a show that people who've never even watched NJPW said was amazing and had people declaring that it's main events wouldn't be topped for the rest of the year. Sure, that can be construed as, "Oh whatever, smarks only like Japanese wrestling because it makes them sound cooler" but then I'd point you just a month earlier to NXT's R-Evolution live event.

NXT is, for all intents and purposes, still a WWE production. So everyone should just totally hate blindy because we're all "unsatisfiable fucks" right? Nope, once again there was an overwhelmingly positive reaction and the "internet fans" (which really means nothing anymore) at Reddit even sent HHH a god damn fruit basket because they enjoyed the show so much.

Wrestling fans aren't these mythical basement-dwelling nerds who just instantly hate anything they see. They're normal people who have likes and dislikes. To me personally this isn't about Daniel Bryan not winning, honestly I would have been fine with a number of other people winning the match, it's about Roman Reigns not being ready to main event the biggest show in WWE. By the time WM comes around, he'll have -at most - 3 PPV Singles matches under his belt and he'll be going up against Brock who, despite being awesome and a beast, still needs a really strong opponent to help him carry the match.

So yeah this isn't just about the "internet fans" being perpetually angry and ready to shit on whatever they watch. If an entire arena of nearly 20k people is chanting "Bullshit" and booing the winner out of the building, you messed up. That's not just 20,000 "smarks" and even if it is, you're still actively shitting on the people who sold out the arena for you.

Really well-put, although I was mainly talking about the main WWE show. NJPW and NXT are fantastic, we can all agree on that. It just seems that no matter what the WWE does the smarks aren't into it, ever.

The smarks were pretty fucking into Survivor Series and WM30 and Summerslam. Also the triple threat on this same night

#9 Posted by DefaultProphet (577 posts) -

We want to drown everything in the negative which is fine.

But I think (I will have to rewatch all three) that the Triple Threat match was better than the 2 main events of Wrestle Kingdom.

Absolutely agree. My ranking this year so far:

Lesnar/Rollins/Cena

Nakamura/Ibushi

Styles/Naito

Omega/Taguchi

Tanahashi/Okada

#10 Posted by DefaultProphet (577 posts) -

The Roman Empires begins. ^____^

I loved that Rumble just because it's hilarious seeing the WWE give the finger and say we're proceeding with our plans whether you like it or not.

@amp_1986 said:

@hadoken101 said:

Never in my life have I seen a company hold their customers in such contempt like the WWE does. That Rumble was.... wow.

At least the Triple Threat was a fantastic match that I'd put up there with the WK9 matches.

They obviously feel that their hardcore fans will keep tuning in no matter what and they just care about trying to attract the mainstream. I could even see Vince understanding that the crowd would shit on the finish and doing it anyway because it will generate more buzz than a popular IWC hero winner like Bryan, Ambrose, or Ziggler.

And they would be right. I constantly see "derp I'm done with this company" stuff every week...and then they all tune in again the following Monday.

I honestly don't understand this attitude "Hahahahaha they made the show suck too bad fans you suck"

Like what?