DefaultProphet's forum posts

#1 Posted by DefaultProphet (372 posts) -

I read that quick and thought it said Condemned: Blue Streak and got real excited for a second.

#2 Posted by DefaultProphet (372 posts) -

Waking up. I don't drink coffee and it helps me to wake up and be relaxed for the rest of the day.

#3 Posted by DefaultProphet (372 posts) -

@defaultprophet said:

The institutional norm will change when the institution is more diverse and everyone can see and do see on the daily that everyone can do the job. The way to get this to happen is to force a more diverse workplace so you don't /have/ to force it in the future.

Firstly, you are assuming those hired under a "quota" do do the job at the same level of competency. Secondly, subconscious racism has little to do with the race of the subject. All races are subconsciously racist so a black hiring manager doesn't make any more rational decisions than a white one.

A black hiring manager is more likely to hire a white applicant of equal qualification as a black applicant.

#4 Edited by DefaultProphet (372 posts) -

@sil3n7 said:

@cabbagesensei said:

Yes, I say "forcing" diversity (what ever that means) will create a more diverse world. Who would've thunk it?

Good Lord. This is it right here. This is the exact thing people have been claiming no one is arguing. But here it is, in all its fascist, illogical, and ignorant glory.

Apparently you don't understand that what's between a persons legs or color of their skin is radically different from what their life experiences and thoughts are. Diversity comes from opinions not a persons race or gender.

You really don't believe a woman or a minority male has a different life experience than you?

C'mon

#5 Posted by DefaultProphet (372 posts) -

@nasar7 said:

@sinisterraven said:

@mister_snig said:

Maybe we're chicken-or-egging it here, but I think as long as there's an imbalance of power and representation among groups of people, different races will always get different treatment, whether positive or negative, intentional or unintentional. We have to find a way to correct that imbalance first, and I think silence isn't the right way of handling that since silence is what propagated the issue in the first place.

Silence and willful ignorance are completely different things. Segregation and police sanctioned racial violence are not "silence", they are active ignorance. Also my "silence" includes attempting to overhaul hiring practices in order to remove the racial identity of applicants out of the entire application process. This would eradicate institutionalized racism and allow for organic diversity rather than artificial diversity

You can't get rid of the applicants' names.

Yeah you could. Applicant #1 for example...

#6 Posted by DefaultProphet (372 posts) -

@mister_snig said:

Maybe we're chicken-or-egging it here, but I think as long as there's an imbalance of power and representation among groups of people, different races will always get different treatment, whether positive or negative, intentional or unintentional. We have to find a way to correct that imbalance first, and I think silence isn't the right way of handling that since silence is what propagated the issue in the first place.

Silence and willful ignorance are completely different things. Segregation and police sanctioned racial violence are not "silence", they are active ignorance. Also my "silence" includes attempting to overhaul hiring practices in order to remove the racial identity of applicants out of the entire application process. This would eradicate institutionalized racism and allow for organic diversity rather than artificial diversity

It could, it's also completely impossible to happen for a personality driven site where people have to be good on camera.

#7 Posted by DefaultProphet (372 posts) -

@defaultprophet said:

How many studies are people going to have to cite for you to understand that if race/gender diversity is not actively pursued (IE: Pretending everything is color blind), then the people that directly benefit are white males? It's not an active choice by an individual, it's an institutional norm throughout our society.

How slowly do I need to explain that I know that. My point is that an institutional norm is malleable. So unless you believe racism is inherent then you either choose to attempt to change the institution or simply accept racism and try to fix the outcome (with more racism)

The institutional norm will change when the institution is more diverse and everyone can see and do see on the daily that everyone can do the job. The way to get this to happen is to force a more diverse workplace so you don't /have/ to force it in the future.

#8 Posted by DefaultProphet (372 posts) -

You can bet the vast majority of the applicants were white males so it'd be unsurprising that amongst all the applicants white males ended up being the two most qualified. I'm going to cringe when Giantbomb inevitably decides to concede to the whims of this small vocal minority that aren't even gamers let alone Giantbomb fans and hire on a non-white/non-male that won't fit Giantbomb at all but will satisfy the people that make a living on getting upset and whining about perceived discrimination. Talk about forced and disingenuous. And this is coming from a non-white male.

Dude don't even. People voicing their opinions on a video game website are just as big of gamers as you are. Come on

#9 Posted by DefaultProphet (372 posts) -

@mister_snig said:

Culture is also about the shared history between groups of people. It's about the people who persecute them, and how people of that cultural group react to it and support each other when that happens. The thing is, a lot of that history and persecution has to do with race, even now. It's a sad thing, and you're right: in an ideal world we shouldn't be talking about race.

But we're not in an ideal world, and the only way we can stop talking about race is when racism (both personal and systemic) are no longer a thing.

I am quite aware that cultural history often involves race. I spent a long time studying such things. My point is that the actual culture is not defined by the history, merely crafted by it.

As for stopping talking about race when racism is gone: You are putting the cart before the horse. No one is going to stop being racist until people stop treating other races differently.

How many studies are people going to have to cite for you to understand that if race/gender diversity is not actively pursued (IE: Pretending everything is color blind), then the people that directly benefit are white males? It's not an active choice by an individual, it's an institutional norm throughout our society.

#10 Posted by DefaultProphet (372 posts) -

@defaultprophet said:

Where has anyone said they should have hired an incompetent, unqualified woman instead of a competent, qualified person?

I believe you are missing the point. There is a superlative. We are assuming GB decided Jason and Dan were the best applicants for those positions rather than arbitrary qualified males. He was arguing that if GB thought a woman was the best applicant they would have hired them but many people seem to be arguing that an arbitrary qualified female should have gotten one of the positions because apparently qualification is binary rather than gradiant

Yep totally missed the point.

Where has anyone said they should have hired an incompetent, unqualified woman instead of a competent, qualified person?