I really don't like this tipping business

How do you feel about tips? Call me crazy, but I am totally not in favor of the tip system currently in place in our fair nation. It's just such a hassle. I think it'd be so much better all around if we just had a regular wage for waiters and got rid of tipping.
 
I mean, you've gotta do the math at the end of the meal... figure out what's 15%. And maybe there's some rule about dinner tips being larger then lunch or breakfast tips. You've gotta figure out if you're going to write in the little receipt or pay the tip in cash. If you don't use a credit card, you've gotta get correct change for your tip... it's just an annoyance. And the tip these days ends up being more like a kickback. Instead of paying them extra for great service or something, you're just paying them not to spit in your food the next time you visit.
 
Ya see, I really screwed the pooch with tips lately. First, there's a visit to this taqueria. They make good tacos. I end up making the wrong calculation and figure out my tip wasn't quite 15%. That's not so great. I feel bad about that. So then, the next time I visit, I figure out ahead of time that I'm gonna pay a bit more on the tip. That'll make up for the first tip. So I give a generous tip and as I'm walking back to the car, it hits me that I actually ordered fewer tacos then the first visit. So the tip ended up being really huge. And now, I'm not sure if I'm gonna be expected to give something like that again the next time I go to that restaurant. Ya know, maybe she'll be pissed off if she sees a decline in the tipping trend. I dunno what to think. It's a crazy system.
 
And ya know, it just... it seems very hard to actually provide outstanding service as a waiter in the first place. It doesn't seem like something that's actually noticeable. Cause it's a very simple job... you take my order, and then you deliver the food. There's no real room for performance excellence in something that straightforward, ya know? So why would anyone pay more then the usual 15%? Unless they go down on their knees and pleasure me or something, I can't see any way they could go above and beyond the call of duty of waitering. Now, maybe the cook could be commended for cooking the food in an outstanding fashion. I can see that happening, some cooks are better then others. That might deserve a tip. But not so much for waiters.
 
I will tell you, I absolutely hate it when waiters come around while you're happily eating your meal and ask you if you're ok. Or they ask you how you're doing. Something like that. It just irks me. I know they mean well, but uh... it's just not something I welcome. Cause if I'm eating my food, obviously everything is going ok and there's no reason to ask. And if something were not ok, I wouldn't just wait around for the waiter to come around and ask, I'd probably raise my hand to get their attention and remedy the situation. Them asking me does nothing but interrupt me while I'm eating. It's just bizarre. I dunno why they do it. If they think that's going to get em a bigger tip, it's a poor idea.
 
What if the restaurant just raises the price on everything on the menu? I'd be all for that. Everything just costs a little more, but no more worries about mathematical calculations or people spitting in your food. Well, less of a worry about people spitting in your food.
 
I hear Europe doesn't do any tipping.

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Posted by Delta_Ass

How do you feel about tips? Call me crazy, but I am totally not in favor of the tip system currently in place in our fair nation. It's just such a hassle. I think it'd be so much better all around if we just had a regular wage for waiters and got rid of tipping.
 
I mean, you've gotta do the math at the end of the meal... figure out what's 15%. And maybe there's some rule about dinner tips being larger then lunch or breakfast tips. You've gotta figure out if you're going to write in the little receipt or pay the tip in cash. If you don't use a credit card, you've gotta get correct change for your tip... it's just an annoyance. And the tip these days ends up being more like a kickback. Instead of paying them extra for great service or something, you're just paying them not to spit in your food the next time you visit.
 
Ya see, I really screwed the pooch with tips lately. First, there's a visit to this taqueria. They make good tacos. I end up making the wrong calculation and figure out my tip wasn't quite 15%. That's not so great. I feel bad about that. So then, the next time I visit, I figure out ahead of time that I'm gonna pay a bit more on the tip. That'll make up for the first tip. So I give a generous tip and as I'm walking back to the car, it hits me that I actually ordered fewer tacos then the first visit. So the tip ended up being really huge. And now, I'm not sure if I'm gonna be expected to give something like that again the next time I go to that restaurant. Ya know, maybe she'll be pissed off if she sees a decline in the tipping trend. I dunno what to think. It's a crazy system.
 
And ya know, it just... it seems very hard to actually provide outstanding service as a waiter in the first place. It doesn't seem like something that's actually noticeable. Cause it's a very simple job... you take my order, and then you deliver the food. There's no real room for performance excellence in something that straightforward, ya know? So why would anyone pay more then the usual 15%? Unless they go down on their knees and pleasure me or something, I can't see any way they could go above and beyond the call of duty of waitering. Now, maybe the cook could be commended for cooking the food in an outstanding fashion. I can see that happening, some cooks are better then others. That might deserve a tip. But not so much for waiters.
 
I will tell you, I absolutely hate it when waiters come around while you're happily eating your meal and ask you if you're ok. Or they ask you how you're doing. Something like that. It just irks me. I know they mean well, but uh... it's just not something I welcome. Cause if I'm eating my food, obviously everything is going ok and there's no reason to ask. And if something were not ok, I wouldn't just wait around for the waiter to come around and ask, I'd probably raise my hand to get their attention and remedy the situation. Them asking me does nothing but interrupt me while I'm eating. It's just bizarre. I dunno why they do it. If they think that's going to get em a bigger tip, it's a poor idea.
 
What if the restaurant just raises the price on everything on the menu? I'd be all for that. Everything just costs a little more, but no more worries about mathematical calculations or people spitting in your food. Well, less of a worry about people spitting in your food.
 
I hear Europe doesn't do any tipping.

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Posted by crusader8463

What? Where i live (New Brunswick Canada) we just always leave a dollar or dollar and change on the table when we walk out. Three if they where any good. Maybe a Five dollar bill if it was more then 5 or 6 of us at the meal.

Posted by Radium

Wow no wonder you don't like it over here (Tennessee), it's normal to just give whatever you have on you if even that. I've left a 5 for a 20 dollar meal countless times.

Posted by Diamond

Waiters often don't even earn minimum wadge.  They're just poor people that need the tips to sustain any kind of life.  If you get a horrible waiter, don't tip them.  If you get a good one, pay a generous tip.  It's simple enough.
 
The restaurant owners may charge too much, but depending on where you go, the waiters might not be treated any better.

Posted by jakob187

Well, given that waiters and waitresses in America basically make around $1.00 an hour and tips is where they make their money, then that 15% makes up the rest.  It's what keeps the food industry booming so much. 
 
Also, if you can't figure out 15% of your meal's total within about 10 seconds, then you need to go back to 7th grade...or maybe earlier.  That is simple and basic math. 
 
Meal costs $30. 
20% of $30 is $6. 
Therefore, the tip that should be left is around $5. 
 
If you are such a cheapskate that you can't even figure up a tip, let alone leave a tip, then you need to stop eating at restaurants.  Hell, if you're eating at a restaurant, then it means you've got some money to blow anyways!!!

Posted by Delta_Ass

It's not about being cheap, it's about the convenience.

Posted by Everyones_A_Critic
@Br3adfan said:
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Awww you beat me to it! 
 
As for the topic at hand. Don't be a cheap bastard. If the waiter or waitress is a dickhead, don't tip them.
Posted by Sick_Sick_Sick
@jakob187 said:
" Well, given that waiters and waitresses in America basically make around $1.00 an hour  "
i'm sorry but i highly doubt that this is true you make them out to be some charity
Posted by Crono11

Where I'm from (New Brunswick Canada) we always leave around 15% when tipping, 20% if they were any good, we may even go up to as much as 25% if the service was good.
Posted by Th3_James
@Sick_Sick_Sick said:
" @jakob187 said:
" Well, given that waiters and waitresses in America basically make around $1.00 an hour  "
i'm sorry but i highly doubt that this is true you make them out to be some charity "
you can make far more than $1 an hour just begging on the streets. I will tip a few bucks, but i mean common the % thing is a bit crazy. if you have dinner with 4 or more people, the bill could get pretty big, or depending on where you eat. Thats bullshit, they do the same work as a cheaper waiter, so why the fuck should waiters at a nicer place get soo much more.
 
like, personally i would rather tip the cook. They dont get any recognition, sure they might get payed more than waiters/waitress'  but if the meal is really exceptional why should the waitress get soo much tip $$$
 
 When i was in germany 2 weeks ago at some place and about to pay the bill, and we were debating the tip we should give, and for some reason the waitress told us not to give a tip.... happened at 3 differant places, i was like hmmm
Posted by angelkanarias
@Delta_Ass said:
"  I hear Europe doesn't do any tipping. "
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Edited by Mrnitropb

Y'all who don't tip, or dislike it are more than welcome to go fuck yourselves with a big pointy stick. 
 
And if you cant' do on the fly percentage calculations, go punch your math teacher in the face.

@Sick_Sick_Sick said:

" @jakob187 said:
" Well, given that waiters and waitresses in America basically make around $1.00 an hour  "
i'm sorry but i highly doubt that this is true you make them out to be some charity "

Current federal limits for tipped wage is $2.13 an hour, with few states mandating higher.
Posted by Wildcard
@Diamond said:
" Waiters often don't even earn minimum wadge.  They're just poor people that need the tips to sustain any kind of life.  If you get a horrible waiter, don't tip them.  If you get a good one, pay a generous tip.  It's simple enough.  The restaurant owners may charge too much, but depending on where you go, the waiters might not be treated any better. "
So they're doing slave labor? The reason it's called minimum wage is because that's the minimum a company is allowed to give their employee. If they're not paying that much, they're doing something wrong and the employees need to get out of there.
 
I can understand the reason not to tip -- I've worked in customer service pretty much all of my life and never receive tips -- giving good customer service as a greeter, or a deli server (which involves making the food as well as serving it), a cashier, or a customer service rep -- none of those see tips and they have to deal with customers as much as servers, and their wages are seldom much more than minimum wage, either. It's strange that one form of customer service deserves it more than another, considering most of them involve dealing with mean/dumb/obnoxious customers, staying on your feet all day, and having to provide a smile the entire time.
 
Back when waitresses were responsible for taking the order, carrying all the food, making sure things were going okay, then cleaning up afterwards, I could see the reason to tip. But now there are multiple people bringing out orders (more often than not now, when I order food, someone who wasn't my server brings it out... so do I count  that as good service?), then the original server will ask if things are okay, bring the bill, and then someone else will clean up the table... 
 
So who exactly is deserving of a tip at that point?
 
That said, I still find myself giving tips at restaurants out of the feeling of social pressure, even though I think people like deli clerks - who have to serve food, make custom orders,  deal with customers non-stop, stay on their feet, etc. are far more deserving.
Posted by TooWalrus

You toss a few bucks on the table when you're done eating, it's honestly not a big deal. Tipping is great because it encourages good service. When I get a shitty waiter, I stiff him. If a waitress does a great job, I give her a little extra. (Gender isn't really an issue.) I work for a flat wage at a pizza joint, and if I knew the possibility of better tips applied to me, I might give half a shit about how your pizza is made.

Posted by Alex_Murphy

You don't have to really do that much math to figure out a tip, just move the decimal point one place to the left to get 10% and just add half of that to the ten percent to get 15%.
 
"I absolutely hate it when waiters come around while you're happily eating your meal and ask you if you're ok. Or they ask you how you're doing."
lol, yea I don't like that either. I guess some people like that and give them a bigger tip but other people just get pissed off by people trying to chat them up and stuff.

Posted by FCKSNAP
@Th3_James said:
" @Sick_Sick_Sick said:
" @jakob187 said:
" Well, given that waiters and waitresses in America basically make around $1.00 an hour  "
i'm sorry but i highly doubt that this is true you make them out to be some charity "
you can make far more than $1 an hour just begging on the streets. I will tip a few bucks, but i mean common the % thing is a bit crazy. if you have dinner with 4 or more people, the bill could get pretty big, or depending on where you eat. Thats bullshit, they do the same work as a cheaper waiter, so why the fuck should waiters at a nicer place get soo much more.  like, personally i would rather tip the cook. They dont get any recognition, sure they might get payed more than waiters/waitress'  but if the meal is really exceptional why should the waitress get soo much tip $$$   When i was in germany 2 weeks ago at some place and about to pay the bill, and we were debating the tip we should give, and for some reason the waitress told us not to give a tip.... happened at 3 differant places, i was like hmmm "
Usually (at most fine establishments) the waiters collect all the tips and divvy them up amongst the chefs so everyone gets a fair share. Also, when I took French in Highschool, our teacher (who was from Germany lol) said that in most European restaurants, they add the tip to the cost of food. Like if a soup and steak would be 20, they put it down as 23 on the bill.
Edited by Hamst3r

Wow, all this hate for people who aren't quick at math. Awesome.
 
The way I handle tipping is I simply put down two dollars more than whatever the first number of the bill is.
 
$10 bill = $3 tip.
$20 bill = $4 tip.
$30 bill = $5 tip.
$40 bill = $6 tip.
$50 bill = $7 tip. 
 
 Keeps it simple. Just look at the first number and add two. Add three if they were awesome.

Posted by JustinNotJason

You should always leave 20 - 25% of your total bill. That's just common courtesy. 15% is like a bare minimum, but 20% is basically the "polite" standard.
 
You know what they say, if you don't have the money to tip, then you don't have the money to eat out.

Posted by LiquidPrince
@crusader8463 said:
" What? Where i live (New Brunswick Canada) we just always leave a dollar or dollar and change on the table when we walk out. Three if they where any good. Maybe a Five dollar bill if it was more then 5 or 6 of us at the meal. "
Uh huh... XD
Edited by Babble

What is it about the job of being a waiter that allows resturaunts to pay them below minimum wage? Is it a loophole? Or is it something in the law that actually allows it?

Posted by artofwar420

The waiters in the US get paid pretty poorly. So tip.

Posted by Red12b
@Mrnitropb:

Geesus fucking Christ, Tipped wage is $2.13 Holy fuck! 
 
Taken from Department Of Labour NZ
 

Minimum wage rates from 1 April 2009

The adult minimum wage is $12.50 an hour.  That’s $100 for an eight hour day, and $500 for a 40 hour week.

The new entrants minimum wage and the training minimum wage are $10.00 an hour.  That’s $80 for an eight hour day, and $400 for a 40 hour week.

By law, employers must pay at least the minimum wage - even if an employee is paid by commission or by piece rate. The minimum wage applies to all workers aged 16 years or older, including home workers, casuals, temporary and part-time workers.

The only exception is when an employee holds an exemption permit.

Holiday pay must be paid in addition to the minimum wage. If an employee receives “pay-as-you-go” holiday pay, this payment must be a separate and identifiable part of their pay.

An increase in the minimum wage will not affect an employee’s other conditions of employment, unless they agree to the changes.

An employee being paid less than the minimum wage can complain to a Labour Inspector, who may investigate and act to recover any money owed. Employees can also get help from our mediators. 
  
END:
Wow, I can't belive how lucky I am, Huh oh well, move to New Zealand guy's is all I can say, The land of the long white chain of Orc's, Sheep and lesbians!

Posted by GreggD
@Radium said:
" Wow no wonder you don't like it over here (Tennessee), it's normal to just give whatever you have on you if even that. I've left a 5 for a 20 dollar meal countless times. "
This. And wouldn't it be great if you could split the bill in GTA IV? I mean, come on, $100 for a dinner that ROMAN ASKED ME TO GO TO? That, my friends, is bullshit. :P
Posted by Diamond
@Wildcard said:
So they're doing slave labor? The reason it's called minimum wage is because that's the minimum a company is allowed to give their employee. If they're not paying that much, they're doing something wrong and the employees need to get out of there.
It's perfectly legal, I forget how it's classified under law, but waiters don't have to be paid minimum wadge.  It's not just one rare employer either, as far as I've seen most every restaurant works this way.  Still, most people do tip, and that's how they keep afloat.  See :
 
@Mrnitropb said:
Current federal limits for tipped wage is $2.13 an hour, with few states mandating higher. "
 

@Wildcard said:
I can understand the reason not to tip -- I've worked in customer service pretty much all of my life and never receive tips -- giving good customer service as a greeter, or a deli server (which involves making the food as well as serving it), a cashier, or a customer service rep -- none of those see tips and they have to deal with customers as much as servers, and their wages are seldom much more than minimum wage, either. It's strange that one form of customer service deserves it more than another, considering most of them involve dealing with mean/dumb/obnoxious customers, staying on your feet all day, and having to provide a smile the entire time.
It's the difference between earning more than minimum wadge and earning about 1/4th of minimum wadge.
Posted by Akeldama
@Br3adfan said:
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beat me to it as well.
Posted by Godlyawesomeguy
@Br3adfan said:
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one of the best scenes ever.
Posted by Druminator

I only tip if they really deserve it and even then it's only spare cash in my pocket. Usually I don't just to avoid breaking another bill.

Posted by teh_destroyer

I only leave a tip if the food was that good, if I didn't like it for some reason I just pay for it and walk out.

Posted by iam3green
@Hamst3r said:
" Wow, all this hate for people who aren't quick at math. Awesome.   The way I handle tipping is I simply put down two dollars more than whatever the first number of the bill is.   $10 bill = $3 tip. $20 bill = $4 tip. $30 bill = $5 tip. $40 bill = $6 tip. $50 bill = $7 tip.    Keeps it simple. Just look at the first number and add two. Add three if they were awesome. "
that is a very nice system u have there :) i have to say that i don't go out to eat a lot with friends that i have to tip. if i go out my parents pay. i have to say that i usually say give them $6 tip. it usually is something around there with the tip.
Posted by strangeling

The REAL problem with tips is not on the customer side of things.  It's what happens to it after you leave it on the table. 

Posted by strangeling
@teh_destroyer said:
" I only leave a tip if the food was that good, if I didn't like it for some reason I just pay for it and walk out. "
See, you're tipping the wrong people then.  The waiter didn't make the food for you.
Posted by eyehook

Just do 20%.  It's the right thing to do, and it makes the math easy.  (Unless they suck, then punish them!)
Posted by Valames

I just double the tax. Works out pretty well. Tax is what? 8% multiply that by 2 and you got 16%. Boom, a little extra for them and easy peasy for me.

Posted by CL60
@teh_destroyer said:
" I only leave a tip if the food was that good, if I didn't like it for some reason I just pay for it and walk out. "
The waiter doesn't make the food...you should be basing your decision on if the waiter was good or not.
Posted by Benjaminvdv

I truly hate tipping, I don't know all the prices of food etc in most of your countries, but here (Netherlands) we pay lots for our food, when I was in the UK I could get atleast twice as much for the same price, anyway they expect you to tip, but why? They ask shitloads for their food and drinks, they don't suck my dick, so why should I pay extra? I will work minimum wage when I get out of college, my minimum wage will be higher due to my education, but It won't be high at all, yet nobody will ever give me a bonus. These people do get minimum wage ++ bonusses, they will make more money then I will even though I will have a harder job and I had to go to college to be able to do it.
 
There is a reason why everything is priced, it's so that you know what you have to pay.

Posted by Valames
@Benjaminvdv said:
" I truly hate tipping, I don't know all the prices of food etc in most of your countries, but here (Netherlands) we pay lots for our food, when I was in the UK I could get atleast twice as much for the same price, anyway they expect you to tip, but why? They ask shitloads for their food and drinks, they don't suck my dick, so why should I pay extra? I will work minimum wage when I get out of college, my minimum wage will be higher due to my education, but It won't be high at all, yet nobody will ever give me a bonus. These people do get minimum wage ++ bonusses, they will make more money then I will even though I will have a harder job and I had to go to college to be able to do it.  There is a reason why everything is priced, it's so that you know what you have to pay. "
You're paying them to not spit in your food, next time.
Edited by Hats

Ive never paid a tip as far as i can remember and have never been asked
gogo Australia's fair labor laws
 
Id like to know what a public school teacher earns over a waiter in the US

Posted by eyehook
@Benjaminvdv said:
"I truly hate tipping, I don't know all the prices of food etc in most of your countries, but here (Netherlands) we pay lots for our food, when I was in the UK I could get atleast twice as much for the same price, anyway they expect you to tip, but why? They ask shitloads for their food and drinks, they don't suck my dick, so why should I pay extra?

Really?  I get a BJ after every meal.... I guess I'm just a good tipper. >:)
Posted by Mrnitropb
@eyehook said:
" @Benjaminvdv said:
"I truly hate tipping, I don't know all the prices of food etc in most of your countries, but here (Netherlands) we pay lots for our food, when I was in the UK I could get atleast twice as much for the same price, anyway they expect you to tip, but why? They ask shitloads for their food and drinks, they don't suck my dick, so why should I pay extra?
Really?  I get a BJ after every meal.... I guess I'm just a good tipper. >:) "
 
No, we're talking about waiters, not gay prostitutes. Fine line.
Posted by eyehook
@Mrnitropb said:
" @eyehook said:
" @Benjaminvdv said:
"I truly hate tipping, I don't know all the prices of food etc in most of your countries, but here (Netherlands) we pay lots for our food, when I was in the UK I could get atleast twice as much for the same price, anyway they expect you to tip, but why? They ask shitloads for their food and drinks, they don't suck my dick, so why should I pay extra?
Really?  I get a BJ after every meal.... I guess I'm just a good tipper. >:) "
 
No, we're talking about waiters, not gay prostitutes. Fine line. "

Oh, sorry, I got confused. O.o
Posted by JustinNotJason
@iam3green said:
" @Hamst3r said:
" Wow, all this hate for people who aren't quick at math. Awesome.   The way I handle tipping is I simply put down two dollars more than whatever the first number of the bill is.   $10 bill = $3 tip. $20 bill = $4 tip. $30 bill = $5 tip. $40 bill = $6 tip. $50 bill = $7 tip.    Keeps it simple. Just look at the first number and add two. Add three if they were awesome. "
that is a very nice system u have there :) i have to say that i don't go out to eat a lot with friends that i have to tip. if i go out my parents pay. i have to say that i usually say give them $6 tip. it usually is something around there with the tip. "
@Hamst3r: 
 
Actually that's a shitty system as the bill goes up . If you have a $50 bill you're giving them 14%. By the time you get to $100 it's only 12%.
Posted by Asurastrike
@Diamond said:
" Waiters often don't even earn minimum wadge.  They're just poor people that need the tips to sustain any kind of life.  If you get a horrible waiter, don't tip them.  If you get a good one, pay a generous tip.  It's simple enough.  The restaurant owners may charge too much, but depending on where you go, the waiters might not be treated any better. "
If you earn less than federal minimum wage ($7.25) with your tips and wage, then your employer has to pay the difference.
Edited by JustinNotJason
@Benjaminvdv: 
That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard. 
Servers get paid like shit BECAUSE they're expected to make the majority of their money in tips.  
You do realize they're required to claim their tips, it's not like tipping the cable man, or repairman. That is a little bonus, a little thank you. The tips you give servers is literally their paycheck. 
The pay they get from their wages is barely anything after taxes. It can literally come out to less than 10 dollars a pay cycle. 
And what bonuses do servers get?
 
Thank God that not everyone thinks the way some of the people in this thread do.
 
Seriously, atleast in the US
 
15% bare minimum 
20% standard
but aim for between 20 - 25%
Now I'm not saying if the servers shitty you have too tip them. But keep in mind, when you stiff a server they remember your face.
Posted by Benjaminvdv
@JustinNotJason: You are calling me a retard, while you have no clue about what things cost here. If you order a pizza here then you pay atleast 10 euro for a small simple pizza (like a 10 inch margerita), why the hell would I still tip at those prices? In the UK I got 1 of those really big ones for 9 pounds with lots and lots of stuff on it, now that's worth tipping.
 
Seriously, don't call me a retard when you are too damn retarded to read my post on how these prices are so different, just because you suck in the US doesn't mean it's the same everywhere.
 
Btw lots of people make minimumwage, do you tip them? No you don't, you don't give a shit about them, you only tip because you have to, because you want your food next time, otherwise you wouldn't give a shit about them.
Posted by strangeling
@JustinNotJason said:
" @Benjaminvdv: 
That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.  Servers get paid like shit BECAUSE they're expected to make the majority of their money in tips.   You do realize they're required to claim their tips, it's not like tipping the cable man, or repairman. That is a little bonus, a little thank you. The tips you give servers is literally their paycheck.  The pay they get from their wages is barely anything after taxes. It can literally come out to less than 10 dollars a pay cycle.  And what bonuses do servers get? Thank God that not everyone thinks the way some of the people in this thread do.  Seriously, atleast in the US  15% bare minimum  20% standard but aim for between 20 - 25% Now I'm not saying if the servers shitty you have too tip them. But keep in mind, when you stiff a server they remember your face. "
Please refer to the post right above yours. 
If a waiter whose wage is $2.50/hr + tips receives no tips, they are paid $7.25/hr. 
 
The problem is people don't know where their tip is going. 
If the tip just goes to the waitress, don't tip for food quality or how fast the food was prepared. 
Especially, if the waitress doesn't claim all their tips (few do). 
If others bring the food out, does the restraunt implement "tip sharing?" 
 
Ask where your tip is going, to make sure you're tipping for what you think you're tipping for.
Posted by Meowayne

This thread reminds me of how retarded your way of paying for stuff is. Oh dear.

Posted by PenguinDust
@eyehook said:
" Just do 20%.  It's the right thing to do, and it makes the math easy.  (Unless they suck, then punish them!) "
This is the rule of thumb that I follow.  Most waiters/waitresses don't get paid minimum wage and rely on their tips to make up the difference.  As long as the server didn't completely screw up or spit in my food, I'll give them their due.  Don't be cheap about it.  And if the math is too hard, shops sell little tip cards that fit in your wallet.  Here's one you can print out from your computer. Free Tip Table
Posted by MB
@JustinNotJason said:
Seriously, atleast in the US  15% bare minimum  20% standard but aim for between 20 - 25% Now I'm not saying if the servers shitty you have too tip them. But keep in mind, when you stiff a server they remember your face. "
Precisely. I typically go to the same restaurants and hotels time and time again, and guess what...everyone gets tipped, and tipped big. However, I'll go to extremes...if a waiter is really shitty, I'll tip him maybe 5-10% but I'll also subtly let him know why. On the other hand, if a waiter really did a good job it's not uncommon for me to tip 30-40% or more regardless of what the bill was, and I'll tell them what a good job they did on my way out. I can afford it and it really makes someone's night when they are recognized and rewarded for a job well done, and those people remember me when I return and it shows.
 
Here's a tip on tipping...do it in cash when you can so the person you give it to can "forget" to claim it on their taxes if they want to. These guys aren't making a ton of money, and it makes a difference.
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Posted by Reuben

A proper tip is 15%. If you don't like tipping you're just cheap. I agree that it may still be better if servers got a regular wage but it is the way it is and at least tip properly.

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