DevourerOfTime's forum posts

#1 Posted by DevourerOfTime (315 posts) -
@itwongo said:

Shit, dude. That's straight up terrible. I couldn't imagine even being in that situation...

I think I'll listen to that Ryan tribute cast by those... podcast year... in perspective... guys....

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

This Year podcast.

#2 Edited by DevourerOfTime (315 posts) -

@rorie said:

Guys, I appreciate everything that's been said in this thread and have done my best to read every comment in it. That said, I and the moderators have to sleep at some point, and given the nature of this discussion I don't want to leave this discussion open all night long unless someone is around to constantly check in on it, which is a lot to ask given the day we've all had. As such, I'm going to lock it in around 45 minutes (midnight PST) and reopen it in the morning when I'm around to actively reply to people's comments and concerns. I think we could all use a breather at this point, so let's ease up on this discussion for the night and come back to it in 10 hours or so.

Sweet dreams, Rorie. Thanks for being awesome.

#3 Posted by DevourerOfTime (315 posts) -

@sarisa said:

@fluttercry: I can't tell if you're trolling or legitimately asking this but here we go!

Saying that diversity of experiences, interests, socioeconomic status, whatever among a bunch of (very very likely cishet) white dudes is not the same as diversity among a group of different-gender/orientation/race/etc. folx is not the same as saying "oh yeah all white people are the same."

Also, re: RACISM AGAINST WHITE PPL generally: http://feminspire.com/why-reverse-racism-isnt-real/ http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Reverse_racism

This why there's a backlash against SJWs every time. Your 'people can't be racist against white people' spiel is an absurd attempt at redefining words and terminology, and will never be accepted outside the internet.

Every university course I have taken that tackles diversity, whether its Sociology, Political Science, English, Geography, or, hell, even Computer Science courses, have gone into great detail on why "reverse racism" isn't relevant or real.

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#5 Edited by DevourerOfTime (315 posts) -

@andmm said:
We should be happy that they are a part of the gb community now and not dealing with this racism/feminism bullshit that has absolutely nothing to do with the site or the hiring process. Take that shit to Polygon.

This is exactly the kind of dog-whistle comment this community needs to stop tolerating.

#6 Posted by DevourerOfTime (315 posts) -
@rorie said:

@millionthlayla said:

After this incident, I really don't feel welcome here. I used to want to be active on the forums, but that enthusiasm has dwindled with every discussion about sexism. Every rationalization for why things are OK the way they are. I have nothing against the GB staff, including the new hires, and I wish them well. The conversation should be all about how exciting it is to have new hires, and I really wish it could be. But the pot is boiling over on a serious issue, and people refuse to just stay quiet about it. That's good, because it's the only way anything changes.

But...the reactionary backlash here over legitimate issues is frustrating. It's invalidating. It's not even just this particular incident. It's every conversation about discrimination. Every. Single. One. Even the ones I haven't read, the times when I just don't have it in me to read them, because I know exactly how it's going to go. I shouldn't feel drained and sad trying to be part of a community, but that's how it is. I dunno that anyone's gonna care, since I've mostly just been a lurker. But...I've been here, reading. Trying to find a way to speak up multiple times, succeeding only a few. It's been fun. No, wait, it's been the exact opposite of that.

This makes me feel really awful, so I apologize for not responding earlier. We've had discussions to this end in the past but obviously events like the E3 chat and today are giving it a new sense of urgency. We'll be talking about how to react to this going forward but it will take some time.

Thank you Rorie for your excellent handling of this situation.

#7 Edited by DevourerOfTime (315 posts) -

Would just make a long post writing my feelings about the situation, but it seems like a tons of users basically already said what I have to say.

@millionthlayla said:

After this incident, I really don't feel welcome here. I used to want to be active on the forums, but that enthusiasm has dwindled with every discussion about sexism. Every rationalization for why things are OK the way they are. I have nothing against the GB staff, including the new hires, and I wish them well. The conversation should be all about how exciting it is to have new hires, and I really wish it could be. But the pot is boiling over on a serious issue, and people refuse to just stay quiet about it. That's good, because it's the only way anything changes.

But...the reactionary backlash here over legitimate issues is frustrating. It's invalidating. It's not even just this particular incident. It's every conversation about discrimination. Every. Single. One. Even the ones I haven't read, the times when I just don't have it in me to read them, because I know exactly how it's going to go. I shouldn't feel drained and sad trying to be part of a community, but that's how it is. I dunno that anyone's gonna care, since I've mostly just been a lurker. But...I've been here, reading. Trying to find a way to speak up multiple times, succeeding only a few. It's been fun. No, wait, it's been the exact opposite of that.

@hailinel said:
@splodge said:

Give it a month. This will all be forgotten about.

This is the worst attitude tot take. Not even silent dismissal, but the need to vocalize such dismissal.

I don't think anybody is mad at Jeff, et al, for hiring Dan and Jason. I don't think anyone thinks Dan and Jason are going to drag down the site, or won't be good at their jobs. People are disappointed in Giant Bomb, and what it represents. Giant Bomb is a big deal. The way it was created, the content it runs, its history, its voice, and overall the way it just consistently KILLS IT and proves there is another way to cover games that isn't just a rehash of what a dozen other sites are doing, all that inspires people. On top of that, all that success in the face of adversity means that Giant Bomb has a pretty high profile, and the video-nature of the sight makes us feel connected to the crew in a way you don't get through outlets that largely do print work.

So you have a site that everyone agrees is doing a great job, and that is staffed by really likable, nice, funny guys, and produces quality content against the grain of their competitors. Their livestreams and podcast draw huge numbers. They have a very loud, very popular platform, so to speak. Then they announce that for the first time in a long time they are hiring new staff. What you have to understand is that everything they have done to this point creates the expectation that they WOULDN'T just hire two more white dudes who are very similar to the existing staff in terms of likes/dislikes/taste, whatever you want to call it. If you are a straight white male who doesn't think about social issues very often (and that isn't meant as a pejorative) you might not understand what a HUGE DEAL it would have been for either of these new hires to be a woman. Or non-white. Or LGBTQ.

Because this is an industry dominated by sameness, and by chasing what's popular, and undeniably by white men. It denies opportunities to anyone who is not a white man frequently, and there is a litany of blogs and editorials that prove that to be true, not the figment of some "feminazi's" imagination. Giant Bomb became such a big thing by being different, by being what the people in charge would insist doesn't work, and by never being satisfied by "good-enough". So when people who love all that about the site see Giant Bomb miss a huge opportunity to get even better and to keep being great, it upsets them. THAT'S the word I've seen most oft repeated on Twitter and in blogs. Upset. Disappointed. Bummed. Nobody hates the site, or the guys. It's just that not all Giant Bomb fans are straight white guys, and those legions of fans would like to see somebody like them ANYWHERE in the industry, but particularly on their favorite site. It would make them feel better about supporting that site, and those guys. And when it doesn't happen, as it never does, we're just...disappointed.

@underattack86 said:

@octaslash: No, they started the beef by insulting Giant Bomb because the new hires were white and male, remember? This is a bad of their own making.

Yeah, they totally brought slurs and rape threats upon themselves by critiquing our precious tribe.

#8 Edited by DevourerOfTime (315 posts) -

Giving awards to games before they're out is kinda dumb.

#10 Edited by DevourerOfTime (315 posts) -
  • Playing Hearthstone everyday pretty much.
  • Putting in a lot of work into Ultra Street Fighter IV as I try to find a new main.
  • Started playing Guild Wars 2 for the first time. I think I'm level 20? Really liking it so far and the structure of the game allows me to pop in and out fairly smoothly.
  • Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D is way, way, way better than I thought it would be, especially considering my general distaste for the series beyond DKC2 and based on how much I hated the original on Wii. Ridiculous how much a game can improve with proper controls.
  • Just finished the first half of Broken Age. Really wish I would have waited for the second half to be out to play it as this wait is ridiculous.
  • Playing some Heroes of Might & Magic II again. Just for funsies.
  • Very nearly done Guacamelee, but my Vita screen broke and had to send it off for repairs which were barely worth it due to how expensive it was. Fun game, tho!
  • Gravity Rush I'm also playing through when not playing Guacamelee and not waiting for my new/repaired vita.
  • Going through the challenge levels of Peggle 2 here and there. I enjoyed this game a lot, but not nearly as much as the original...
  • Just downloaded Super Time Force a few days ago. Probably will boot it up soon enough.