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#1 Posted by dmax3901 (12 posts) -

@FLStyle: This is hard for me to admit but I've never played a Metal Gear game, mainly because I've never owned a Sony console. I really should get onto that.

@Daneian said:

Since the post-modern movement is so complex and multi-faceted, you might want to define which part of it you're referring to here.

Post-modern stories aren't defined by audience engagement like it seems is at least a part of your thesis (if it were, every game ever is post-modern, not just a story like Bioshock's or System Shock's whose narrative specifically highlights that fact), but can be found abstractly layered into the very structure of the narrative. Post-modernism isn't a single device with a singular aim, but a way of telling a different kind of story than classical forms.

And so I have a hard time with the claim that videogames, or any medium, are the pinnacle of story-telling by definition, an assertion people also make because it has all other forms of art contained inside.

I agree with you that I don't spend enough time on defining which aspect of Postmodernism I'm dealing with, this is mostly because this used to be an essay with a whole lot of other stuff I had to put in to appease the assessment guidelines. I took that stuff out (it was irrelevant) and rewrote it so the focus was Bioshock and games. There are no doubt remnants of bad/vague writing.

I'll also agree that postmodern stories aren't solely defined by audience engagement, but I very much feel that its a large part of them. The Crying of Lot 49 for example, is a detective story that drops numerous hints of a conspiracy without ever providing answers, or even confirmation. The reader is used to searching for hints and piecing the clues together, but by the end nothing has been revealed and they realise they've been fooled.

My point when I call games the most postmodern medium (a sweeping statement to be sure) is simply that we are 'in' the text. We are walking around and interacting with the world, as opposed to just reading words or watching images.

@DarthOrange said:

Bioshock was not without its story telling problems. The biggest problem I had was that every single person was a bat shit drug addict or a robot save for the "mother" of the little sisters, Andrew Ryan, you, the Big Daddys and that dude that controls you. The characters in the world could have used some more personality. The citizens all seemed very one note and were basically zombies. This is what made the casino level so interesting. It featured characters that each had a unique personality. I would argue that if anything Heavy Rain told a better story while still giving you some control. Alan Wake ran into the same problem as this game. The story is crazy interesting, but eventually you kill so many bad guys the whole thing just starts to take you out of the experience. Similarly in Bioshock towards the end I was just shooting all cameras and turrets because I was sick of the hacking mini-game. The world of rapture was great, but the majority of its inhabitants were carbon copies of each other. The game would have been better with half as many enemies, as the repitition of combat would have taken twice as long to settle in and take you out of the experience.

The splicer's could've used more personality? I'll concede that by the last third of the game they become a bore but I feel that as far as video game 'generic cannon fodder' goes they're far more interesting than anything else out there. Some of their lines become repetitive after a while "Jesus loved me this I know, for the bible tells me so", "I'll do what you say!" etc, but all of the one-time events (the woman singing to her pram is a good example) elevate the splicers above many other shooter enemies. Hell, just the fact that they walk around muttering to themselves and banging their weapons on the floor instead of running straight at you is commendable.

I agree with you on the lack of real characters though, I remember when I first played it I kept comparing the character moments to Half-Life 2. In Bioshock every character moment happens through a window or cutscene, you never see them up close and if you do the control's been taken from you. In HL2 there are no cutscenes for starters, but in the exposition parts you could walk around, look at stuff, and all the other characters walked around too, doing their own thing. Bioshock sorely lacked this sort of energy.

I've not played Heavy Rain but I can agree with you on Alan Wake, I've yet to finish it because as you say the enemy encounters get tiresome pretty fast.

Thanks for the replies by the way, really enjoy the discussion.

#2 Posted by dmax3901 (12 posts) -

Thanks man, I envy you playing it for the first time :)

#3 Posted by dmax3901 (12 posts) -

Note: Something a little different: an essay I originally wrote in 2009 on postmodernism and how (some) video games have begun to play with the author/reader relationship in a way that’s not possible in any other medium.

Video games and postmodernism go hand in hand. It’s a natural development, as the rise of postmodernism is tied strongly to the rise of technology. These days, most people access postmodern media through television and film. Scrubs, Community, Fight Club, Scott Pilgrim are just a few examples of entertainment that plays with the medium it belongs to. It enables all kinds of new ways to twist and turn the relationship between author and audience, an ability that previously belonged only to the novel. Postmodernism has gone from book, to film, to TV, and in the last three decades, to an even newer medium and arguably the most postmodern: video games. What makes it the most postmodern? With games, the ‘reader’ is literally in control. Not only has the author died, he’s handed you his manuscript with a note saying “go nuts”. Or has he?

In this highly interactive, highly editable, android and tablet-enabled world where people tweet conversations they’re having while they’re still having them, and every intimate detail about your personal life can be obtained by complete strangers, it’s not a stretch to say that our lives are already permeated with postmodern traits. With video games the consumer is not passive as with film and books, but active players who are able to interact with, alter and edit the narrative as it occurs. Games then, should be considered to be at the pinnacle of the postmodern artform.

I can imagine many people who would cringe at the idea of calling video games art and I completely understand. I do not feel that the Call of Duty series, for example, will ever be considered art. Although at the rate they churn them out who knows (see: infinite monkey theorem). Not all games should be considered art but perhaps by the end of this I’ll have persuaded you that some games should be considered art.

Bioshock, developed by Irrational Games and released in 2007 to both critical and commercial success, is as much blockbuster action as it is a self-referential commentary on video games. It deliberately deconstructs the traditional myth of interactivity and choice and suggests that, instead of you playing the game, it has been playing with you. Before I can explore this further, some plot will have to be explained. The game is five years old, but all the same:


Bioshock is set in an alternate 1960 and takes place in a dystopian underwater city called Rapture. Rapture was conceived by former socialist businessman Andrew Ryan, who wanted to create a state to escape the increasingly oppressive political, economic and religious authorities he faced on the surface. During Rapture’s construction the accidental discovery of ADAM was made; a stem cell harvested from an unknown species of sea slug. This led to genetic research and eventually to the citizens of Rapture gaining superhuman powers from plasmids, a substance they used to rewrite their genetic code. As time went on, tensions rose between Andrew Ryan and another party, who had been competing for economic control of ADAM and plasmids, until it all came to a head in their version of 1959 when a coup took place and Rapture began to fall into decay. Without the regular production of ADAM, the people were forced to quit cold turkey, which slowly turned them all into DNA-junkies called splicers. Rapture is the city that you, as the player, are introduced to.

You play as Jack who starts the game on a plane which soon crashes into the ocean. Surviving the crash, you find the entrance to Rapture. You discover that most of the populace have turned into violent psychopaths and that the submarine-city has sprung more than a few leaks. You soon gain a friend in Atlas, an Irishman who gives you directions via radio. He fulfils the traditional video game role of mentor and plot motivator, both telling you where to go and how to get there.

From the very start you are compelled to act because of Atlas. He tells you what to do and you do it, under the illusion that you are doing so of your own free will. You wander about Rapture, battling splicers and listening to audio recordings that slowly piece together Rapture’s story, and Atlas’. Eventually you come face to face with the man behind it all: Andrew Ryan. He reveals that you are a genetic creation, only two years old but engineered to mature extremely quickly. Ryan has conditioned you to obey any order that is prefaced by the words “would you kindly”. Suddenly every choice you’ve made while playing the game is cast in a different light. Every time Atlas has asked you to go somewhere or do something, he has used that exact phrase. For the entire time you’ve been playing, you’ve been a pawn controlled by Atlas in order to achieve his own goals. Wanting to face death on his own terms, Ryan asks you: “Would you kindly… kill?” and for the first time the control is taken out of the players hands, the action is instead shown in a cutscene. You watch helplessly as Jack beats Ryan to death with a golf club. This scene is quite unnerving because it emulates what Jack is feeling: he has lost all control of his actions. There is nothing you or Jack can do to stop caving in this man’s head.

Since the very beginning Jack has followed Atlas’ instructions due to brainwashing, just as you have. You as a player recognise that Bioshock is a video game and you understand that you need to follow instructions in order for the story to progress. And this is how Bioshock manages to make the most important comment yet made on video games: the player never had the ability to choose. The experience of playing a game is just as controlled and linear as any other medium. Games are simply better at disguising the illusion of choice.

Say you’re playing a game. You’re in a room with no windows but there is an open door. If the room is empty except for a big red button with “press to open door” written on it, you will then conclude that for the game to proceed, you must press the button and go through the door. You could choose to run around in circles, jump up and down or just curl up in a corner and cry, but it wouldn’t change the fact that without taking action, the game becomes a stagnant world. You are compelled to walk through the door.

As games have never been considered high art, the fact that Bioshock vies for intellectual consideration is certainly something worthy of praise. Games often have the stigma of being mindless entertainment, and an addictive method of escapism. While this is certainly true in some cases, with Bioshock effort has been put into every artistic aspect of the game. The use of light and darkness, of noise and silence, the fantastic soundtrack and above-standard writing create an atmosphere unlike any other game and indeed any other medium. This youtube clip ( brings a few of the unsettling moments in the game together, exemplifying perfectly the effort put into making this game positively drip with immersion. There are some moments where you have the option to sit back and listen to the splicers as they mutter crazily to themselves, oblivious to your presence. At one point you see a woman leaning over a pram, singing to what you assume is her child. When you approach you can see that she is in fact singing to a handgun, tucked up nicely in the pram. They’re not just monsters, they’re everyday people driven mad by their leaders flying too close to the sun.

Just as there are books about books and films about films, Bioshock is a video game about video games; quite possibly the first of its kind. It comments on its own medium in a way that no book or film can. The final product is something with so much depth, especially when compared to other games, that it just feels natural to call it a work of art.

“We all make choices, but in the end our choices make us.” – Andrew Ryan.

#4 Edited by dmax3901 (12 posts) -

Yeah, if you want to play one last great game on the Wii, make it Xenoblade.

Also, bumfights?

#5 Posted by dmax3901 (12 posts) -

On Lazulis Island, a nation isolated from the rest of the suffering empire, a diverse band of mercenaries delve into ruins and kill monsters to earn a living. When war finally envelopes the island, the mismatched band get caught up in the action. The premise may be standard fare for a JRPG, but The Last Story still manages to entertain. Its title is also rather apt, as it will most likely be the last 'big' title released on the Wii before the launch of the Wii U later this year.

You play as Zael, who is of course the most soft-spoken, angsty and romantic one of the group. He is also lucky enough to be given an ancient power that allows him to pull off some special moves (or 'cut sick') on the battlefield. The rest of the characters are about what you'd expect: the stoic, handsome leader, the shy magic-user with an eye patch, the cute bookworm with healing powers and the blonde guy who flirts with all the girls. There is one refreshing character in the perpetually-drunk Syrenne, who manages to be more sleazy than the designated sleaze of the group. She's a nice break from the doe-eyed anime girls that are the norm in this type of game.

The banter between characters is actually one of the games highlights. In the downtime between combat or story moments you can relax at the local inn, having fully-voiced acted and surprisingly funny conversations with your party. As an added bonus, most of the voice actors do a decent job with the occasionally clumsy script. On the flipside, The Last Story's soundtrack is forgettable, although my expectations may have been unfairly raised after the incredible Xenoblade, which has one of the best video game soundtracks in recent years.

Graphically it's quite impressive as far as Wii games go, which unfortunately means you have to put up with FPS drops when there's a lot of enemies on the screen. Frankly, the fact that you're interested in this game probably means you know enough about the Wii to expect this sort of limitation. Textures are very low-res across the board, but the art style and facial animations more than make up for it.

Gameplay is incredibly linear and straightforward. For the first hour or two I kept thinking: “Ok, I'm through the intro, now it'll let me see the world map and I can go wherever I want”. This moment never comes. You simply go from setpiece to setpiece. Cave – City – Inn – Palace – Cliffs – Ship etc. It's not a huge problem, but it's certainly jarring if you're not expecting it.

At first the combat seems rather overwhelming, it's all in real time until after an hour or so of gameplay where you'll unlock the command mode ability. This allows you to pause the fight and instruct your party to use specific abilities. It's a fun system, if a little easy, and it steadily gains depth as you progress. There's also a cover system of sorts, which is really bizarre for an RPG. It's not too integral to the combat however, so if you don't like the sound of it, don't worry, its not much of a hindrance. Tutorials pop up whenever a new mechanic is introduced and while there are a lot of them, they never feel intrusive or treat you like a blind monkey.

The Last Story is a worthwhile experience and a fitting way to send off your poor, dusty and neglected Wii. If you feel like having one last fun, simple yet satisfying adventure before you pack it up/sell it for scrap, then you should definitely pull the trigger on this one. On the other hand if you feel like you've been playing in HD for too long to go back to the dated graphics of the Wii, then don't feel like you're massing out on a classic here.

In closing: buy Xenoblade, buy it now.

3.5 out of 5.