@ihateyouron: We can start with Metroid, that has long since been abandoned when Other M failed to meet anyone's expectations. Mario has started to grind on people to an extent that the promise of a new game in the series isn't enough to guarantee sales. Zelda has devolved into using art styles to try and garner some fan favour, to such an extent that they decided to re-release Wind Waker on the WiiU to try and salvage the console. NSMB was a rush job of reused assets, music and models, to the point that it really felt like Nintendo were insulting their fanbase. They needed a quick fix for the WiiU, and it didn't work. We can't forget that, thanks to Nintendo, Fire Emblem nearly died as a series, with Awakening being put in the limelight because of the 3DS and its pretty terrible library. Imagine if the console had been even mildly successful at launch? Awakening would have been another great game that got shunted to the side because of some archaic thinking (from what I can see) from Nintendo.
My issue with that 'Nintendo hate bandwagon' is that...well it simply puts anyone with any real grievance with Nintendo as a company into a box that people can label and ignore. I was a massive Nintendo fan for most of my life, but I eventually seen that what they were doing was more damaging to their brands than helpful. People want to ignore criticism of Nintendo, I've seen it time and time again, but really, a majority of the dissenting opinions are people looking for the company they loved to grow and adapt. What, exactly, is wrong with that? Hell, an argument on this thread is that mobile games will steal the kids away from Nintendo handhelds...by comparison, what I'm saying is actually logical and not hate-filled at all. Their IPs are scattered and scarce, so much so that they haven't bothered with a new Star Fox game, instead re-releasing a pretty piss-poor remake of an older game that clocked three hours and wasn't worth the asking price for the 3DS. Sure, they're saying that they're coming up with new IPs now, but that's far too late in the game when you see the way they've treated Kirby, Metroid, Star Fox and Zelda. They've used Mario as their go-to mascot, and it's starting to wear thin.
I don't hate Nintendo, I find it sad that they've ended up in the state they're in. I mean, for god's sake, they can't even manage a proper launch schedule for their exclusive games anymore, the HD Zelda isn't on the horizon for a long while yet, and if it's more of the same, it'll just be another nail in the coffin, they've got maybe five or six games to release between now and Christmas, but at that point the console has been out a year...again, it's too late. I've seen this with the Gamecube, the Wii and the DS...they have all of these fantastic ideas and no knowledge of how to utilise them. They forget that on any console, you need games, and even more to the point, you need games to come out at a steady and reliable rate. Plenty of people have jumped ship on Nintendo, the casual market sees the WiiU as another Wii, it's a disaster, and they only have themselves to blame. At some point, the same thing over and over again won't interest people.
However, I feel like this will just descend into the usual shit-slinging that I'm accustomed to on any forum involving Nintendo, judging by a few of the prior comments, it's already started, so I'm going to cut my losses and leave this, I can't stomach yet another debate on this crap. Thank you for at least having the common decency to have a conversation with me though, I won't subject myself to the vitriol that comes with other people missing the point of what I'm saying and simply coming in with bull-headed opinions and no room in their head for other people's ideas. Again, thank you, but this is Giantbomb, and I know when to leave these debates.