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@daniel94:

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Nah, i just think that the hate is way too much, i'm a pc gamer by the way, and will not buy neither the ps4 o Xone, i just can't comprehend all the hate.

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How can you do points 2 and 3 and still play the game you lend? And lend it to someone in other state? by mail?

What?

Microsoft aren't going to let you do that, you can lend someone the game, but you cant play it at the same time. Its 10 people on your system, "10 Family members". For Christ's sake do you really think that's going to happen? they would have just dropped game sales to 10% (10 people "sharing" 1 game). bloody hell, they are undercharging for the console if that's the case, either that or the games are going to be £500 each.!

They also don't mean, "playing at exactly the same time either", they mean you play for an hour, quit to do something else and you dad, mum, sister etc login and can play the game as well (without the need for a separate Live account).

I blame Microsoft for these threads it must be patently obvious that the message is being lost if every day there are 10 more threads like this.

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@jediknight00719 said:

It was only once they had a digital marketplace with DRM that was locked down to prevent sharing that they could do super discounted shit.

>Think about it, on steam you get a game for the true cost of the game, 5$-30$. On a console you have to pay for that PLUS any additional licenses for when you sell / trade / borrow / etc. If the developer / publisher can't get it on additional licenses (like steam), then they charge the first person more. [...] If we say "Hey publishers, you limit game to 39.99, we ensure every license transfer you get 10$, gamestop gets 20$" that is a decent model... Microsoft gets a license fee on first and subsequent game purchases, compared to just first now? That's a revenue increase.

>Competition is the best man

I just don't think people believe Microsoft or Sony would ever actually lower game prices, even if game sales went 100% digital, because they have closed platforms; killing Gamestop/Walmart/Amazon physical sales actually reduces competition for the digital stores and would make them less inclined to lower prices.

"Steam never had to be trusted to make this decision, mostly because they are the ones that started and popularized it, and the fact that they have major competitors in the PC digital distribution space."

I think this is a really important statement. For PC you can buy direct the developer, from Steam, from Origin (uuggh), from from GOG, etc, etc. To buy a digital XBOXOne game you have to buy from Microsoft - there will be no competition!

MGR:Revengeance is £44.99 on the GOD service in the UK (digital), but its £24.99 on Amazon and £20 (physical) in a number of UK high-street stores (the ones that are left anyway); I think that pretty much says exactly what will happen to an all digital future.

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@daniel94 said:

Aside of the 24h internet thing, this console is opening massive posibilities.

1. You can now share all your games with top ten friends immediately, they can play any of your games in his own Xbox and his Own Account, they can play the game even if you're playing it, a huge advantage compared to the old fashion way (lending the physical game) in which you could not play the game in the meantime.

2. You can now share your games with friends living far away from your home, even living in other cities or states.

3. This feature can save you money, for instance you can buy Bioshock and your friend buy Halo 5, now you can play two games for half the price.

4. No more disc being scratched, trips to actually lend the game, friends keeping the game too much XD.

4. overall you would have acces to many more title for a fraction of the money.

5. Xbox Cloud system could become in a new steam, with amazing offers.

I remember when steam started, a lot of hate was spread too.

So just saying, is not that bad, is actually, pretty good.

It isn't "opening up" any new opportunities; points 2 and 3 exist now don't they.

Point 4 is bollocks (look after your stuff more).

...and points 5 (your second 4) and 6 are also a pipe dream. For example MGR:Revengeance is £44.99 on games on demand (digital), but is £24.99 on Amazon (boxed)

I agree, point 1 is novel, you will be able to login to a friends machine and play your games from the 'cloud', but presumably they mean after you download it to your friends system? my internet is 2Mb I really don't want to have to download games all of the time, for any reason. I also think this means 10 people on your system.

I agree that there are a lot of positives to look at with Microsoft (great games at E3), but this idea that they are 'doing us a favour' by doing all of this is utter crap.

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@legion_ said:

Geoff Keighley, Dave Lang, Peter Molyneux

Edit: Oh, and ZODIAC MOTHERFUCKER.

I would rather have Peter Molydeux.

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@benny: Ye

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man, i'd be pissed right now if i was british. 668 usd, yikes.

Yup, I'm from the UK and games here are £40, if you imagine a PS4 is the same price as 10.75 new games at retail (£430), the american price would be $640. Insanity.

Yes, I am british and to be honest this has turned from a 'day one sale', into a 'wait for a price drop/hardware revision'. $499 dollars is about £320 pounds at todays exchange rate.

This looks as if the UK/Europe will be subsidising sales in the US.

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@sweep said:

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Only discussion of the Microsoft press conference is allowed.

So Game Of Thrones, amirite?

Game of XBOnes... apologies.

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@aegon said:

Haven't watched a single one and don't plan to. It just seems like an excuse to feed his addiction.

Definitely this...

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#10  Edited By Dr_Perscitus

@thetenthdoctor: I don't really think MS are doing this to stop you lending games to your friends are they? That's not even what the thread is about.

The 'permutations' I mentioned are you selling the game to anyone else (friends or stores).