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This sounds more like a "This is what I want to see" list. I don't buy it.

You shouldn't. Not only is it an incredibly over-ambitious wishlist, it's also implausible and impractical. Is there one "big" World Wide Studio not listed on there? If this were true, what on Earth would Sony show at next year's E3, or any other show between then for that matter? They have to save some things to keep the information flowing.

Add to this that the show needs to be under 2 hours, and we all know they need to fit in Destiny, Assassin's Creed, and probably a couple other third party titles and this list seems like a total scam.

I doubt even HALF of that list shows up.

All they have to say is that there are a lot of studios working on next gen titles and maybe show a 1-2 minute clip of trailer or a logo of the game. Half of these games I bet won't be playable, but rather trailers or simply logos. And half of those games will probably make another appearance next year. It is completely feasible to fit this in 2 hours. Sony just has to simply announce it and can save gameplay for next year.

Just compare this list to other E3 shows that Sony's had though. They never pack this much stuff into it. Is it physically possible for this all to be shown? Yes, but it's incredibly unlikely.

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@meatball said:

@duffyside said:

@abendlaender said:

This sounds more like a "This is what I want to see" list. I don't buy it.

You shouldn't. Not only is it an incredibly over-ambitious wishlist, it's also implausible and impractical. Is there one "big" World Wide Studio not listed on there? If this were true, what on Earth would Sony show at next year's E3, or any other show between then for that matter? They have to save some things to keep the information flowing.

Add to this that the show needs to be under 2 hours, and we all know they need to fit in Destiny, Assassin's Creed, and probably a couple other third party titles and this list seems like a total scam.

I doubt even HALF of that list shows up.

Not that I actually believe this list, but if Sony were to show a game/trailer from each of their major studios would that actually be such a bad thing? Not everything announced would necessarily be a "next 6-12 months" release, or even be shown in with any kind of hint that it's in a playable state. Teaser trailers and all that jazz. This early in the console cycle would it really be such a bad thing for either Microsoft or Sony to lay most of their cards on the table and say "Hey, if you buy a console now this is the awesome stuff you're in for over the next 18-24 months".

Guess I've never been a big fan of the mantra that E3 reveals have to be games releasing in the next 6 months. There's always the danger that something could become the next The Last Guardian-esque vaporware, but I've always kind of enjoyed knowing about a game's existence early and following it over the course of a couple of years. It was super cool to see Watch_Dogs announced so early back in 2012, for example. Though that's also a perfect example of what damage revealing a game before it has actually gone through a proper development cycle can do to people's perception when it fails to reach the lofty heights set by an ambitious early reveal and the ensuing expectations/speculation running rampant. Personally, I think Watch_Dogs still looks great, but it's clearly not on the level of its initial reveal and that has caused some significant backlash from the internets.

The rest of your reasoning is perfectly sound (hell, the part I'm taking issue with is pretty sound too, sadly).

It wouldn't be a "bad" thing, at least from my perspective as a consumer. But it would be a bad thing in their perspective, as the marketing philosophy of most game companies seems to be one of always wanting to have something new to announce. I'm not decrying this fake leak because it's "bad," but because it's totally unrealistic. It's just a matter of "if they show this much first party content, where does that leave them for next year?" They need to keep some things in their pocket. Heck, I bet they've already scheduled games to be shown at Gamescom and E3 2015.

I would've bet Uncharted 4 was a shoe-in three months ago, but with so many people leaving that studio, I'm wondering if there's so much turmoil that development has been significantly interrupted. The detail that it is one of the rumors bolded in the leak though gives me a little bit of hope. I strongly doubt God of War 4 will be teased, and with Santa Monica's other project being canceled I wouldn't doubt that their only showing at E3 will be of an assistant-capacity (helping on The Order and other titles). Wipeout is a pipe dream and isn't really "E3-caliber" (I say this as a person who really likes Wipeout). The last two games in that series have been heavily-discounted digital titles or a Vita game. It's not a series that screams "E3 blowout" to me.

I could go on, but rather than bore everyone (too late?), I'll just end with the craziest and most untrue rumor, as I see it -- Sony Japan is going to debut THREE games at E3? THREE of them? Of course not. Even if they are working on three games, why show them all at the same time? Probably the most telling detail that this "leak" is a fanboy's wish list (mine).

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This sounds more like a "This is what I want to see" list. I don't buy it.

You shouldn't. Not only is it an incredibly over-ambitious wishlist, it's also implausible and impractical. Is there one "big" World Wide Studio not listed on there? If this were true, what on Earth would Sony show at next year's E3, or any other show between then for that matter? They have to save some things to keep the information flowing.

Add to this that the show needs to be under 2 hours, and we all know they need to fit in Destiny, Assassin's Creed, and probably a couple other third party titles and this list seems like a total scam.

I doubt even HALF of that list shows up.

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I'm sick and tired of all this political crap ruining this website.

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Vinny needs to write more! His relentless optimism in written form is just so much fun to read.

Definitely... except for that bummer of an opening. Woof.

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Bump from the dead!

Sorry about that. It's just that I've had a feeling Jeff Green would be hired next year, and was searching to see if there were any rumors floating about this very idea, and found this thread.

Here's why I think this will happen, maybe as early as coming back from Christmas break:

1) While the site doesn't have "infinite finances," like some have snarkily commented on this thread, it does clearly have enough of a budget for another person, since we lost Ryan this year. It had been stated that CBSi has not budgeted for a new hire "for this year," but they will for next year. Even if it's not Jeff Green, I would definitely bet that someone will be hired.

2) Jeff Green's departure from PopCap was... swift. It's sort of hard to define why I feel this way, but in my own reading between the lines with his statements on Twitter, it seemed like he already had a new gig lined up. This coincides with my first reason, as I could see Jeff taking some time off before his new job starts early next year. Since Giant Bomb doesn't have the budget for a new employee this year, but would presumably have one for next, I could see Jeff taking a long break before he starts a GB gig the first week of January.

3) He sure seems to be doing a lot of streaming lately. Something he's never really done before, as if he's practicing to play games before an audience and talk about them. Granted, he could be doing this for his new job at anywhere; at Polygon or JeffGreenLovesJapan.Netcom. I don't know about you, but when I think of playing games and talking over them, I think of Giant Bomb... and youtube... shaddup...

4) When Vinny was hosting a podcast while Brad and Jeff where away, he called in Muir and Green to top off the cast. Now, maybe Vinny and Jeff have been great friends for many years before now, but it seems to me this is a relationship that is newly formed. I just get the feeling it was a "hey, you're going to be doing this stuff in a month anyway, and be part of this team, wanna help out/get some practice in?" sort of thing.

5) He sort of "fits" with Giant Bomb. Not just because they laugh at each others' jokes and are all left-wing hippie moth-... oh, sorry... but he fills in some "experience." He's got a long past in print and been around a long time, so he's seasoned. He's older, married for many years with a grown-up daughter, and has been a PC-pressman most of his life, bringing in some new perspective. Moreover, he's also had a bit of a past in development now, having worked at EA and Popcap. Not exactly a twenty-year-long programmer, but still, he could offer some insight none of the other guys have, except maybe Drew and Rorie, who aren't really prominent "editors" of the site.

6) What prompted this search and post; today Jeff Green said he wasn't going to stream because he was "working on GOTY stuff." Huh. I don't know exactly what that means, but he is not currently working anywhere. Maybe it just means he's playing games he missed out on and that was a joke, or he is working on his next job which is at Rev3, GameBomb, or any other site not Giant Bomb... ... or... ... IT MEANS HE'S ALREAD HERE OH GOD LOOK OUT BEHIND YO-

I dunno, it just feels like it's happening to me. Not a conspiracy theory or anything negative like that. I just really like the site and spend way too much time thinking about it. Personally, while I think Jeff Green would be a great addition, I had always thought the best move would be to hire a new video guy, and then let Vinny sort of be a "bridge" between editorial and production. Let him host the shows and the podcast, edit that too, but also hop over and help with video production during GOTY or BLLSL or E3, or help pump out more Quick Looks during the busy time of year, etc. It would give the site more flexibility, and us more Vinny, which is what the world needs.

TLDR; I like pizza.

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Sorry to possibly clog up the forum, but I'm having trouble finding this information out. I could've sworn there was a initiative of sorts with buying games digitally, where if you bought say $50 worth of games, you would get $5 back in credit. Is true? Was it true? Is it a Club Nintendo thing? Or is my mind just playing tricks on me.

Eager to play Mario 3D Land, but want to get this figured out before I make any purchases. Thanks in advance.

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Jeff said on his tumblr that no one was going to Gamescom.

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@milkman: I'm not saying that it'd be illegitimate to do so, just having a bit of fun and saying that Brad would keep it on his list just to "win a bet" or whatever, which I am not serious about. Just joking.

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Glad I searched around for this, as I was going to make a thread. Can't answer the poll, as I'm not sure if it's asking my opinion, or if by Brad's standards, or even by Metacritic...

Speaking of, according to everyone's favorite aggregator, there already are more than ten games better than Brothers. In order of my own damn subjective standards of what would be most hard to argue against:

The Last of Us

Dota 2

Bioshock Infinite

Papers, Please

Gone Home

Fire Emblem: Awakening

Guacamelee

Animal Crossing: New Leaf

Year Walk

The Swapper

Pikmin 3

Bit.Trip.Runner 2

MLB 13: The Show

... with Tomb Raider "on the bubble" (one version above, one juuust below) and Heart of the Swarm debatable (is it DLC? An add-on? *shrug*)

Anyway, I think Brad will (stubbornly) keep the game on his own list, but I don't see Brothers being very well represented on anywhere else. If the Giant Bomb community were to vote again (like they used to do) I'd be placing bets on whether it would make the top 20, not the top 10.

The question I'm most interested in is whether anything released on the new consoles will be better than it. I think there will be, and that was the more crazy statement that came out of Brad's mouth, in my opinion.