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This really didn't go in the direction I thought it would. I really, really, like the Last of Us. And I think the gameplay in it is good as well. I haven't responded for so long because I've been playing it actually.

Oh well, guess it's kind of my fault. Probably should've thought a bit more before posting this. But basically I guess the just of it was this game does have faults, and I'm just not fond of the way shiny things can make certain reviewers with (I think) a certain amount of responsibility completely forget about those. I'm not trying to say it doesn't deserve the praise it's gotten, or even that there's enough problems to bring it down from it's highs, but there are certain things that most have just glossed over in all the worship.

It's not just glitches. For instance, I have picked up and moved a lot of planks and ladders. And wooden slabs in water.

But just never mind this. At this point most of you guys just think I don't like the game. Sorry if I gave off that impression, that's not what I intended. But right now, I'm enjoying the game too much keep going with this conversation that I didn't mean to start. Cool comments and such guys, but I think I'm gonna close this now.

EDIT: If I can figure out how to close it at least....oh well back to the game.

@loktarogar: That's not exactly what I meant about gameplay and immersion not being possible together. Honestly, I kind of just typed this on a whim and pasted it here. So I could've been more clear about things.

I'm saying when a game's main purpose is immersion, and does it very well, but it's gameplay hinders that in any noticeable way, it should still but judged accordingly. I don't necessarily think that gameplay should be over all, especially considering everyone's opinion on gameplay can differ wildly among many other things, but whatever gameplay the game decides to incorporate, it should be considered from just as many angles.

It's hard to incorporate gameplay and strong immersion well really, so again that's why I really didn't want this to come off as an attack on The Last of Us. The game that Naughty Dog has made really is something special, and I'm enjoying it a lot.

And of course I don't mean that I literally forget that I'm playing a game. When this game uses all this awesome atmosphere to really get me into it, but then Ellie goes through me and a bad guy while kind of poking her knife in the air for the animation to stab the bad dude in the back, it's just kind of especially harming to a game like this.

@theht: Yes. That's pretty much what I'm saying. Or at least just as much so, but I myself prefer more so. And @oldirtybearon: clarified it more. Games should be judged on gameplay, and what they set out to achieve. If the game's gameplay impedes at all on what the game attempts to achieve, it should be judged just as actively, no matter how pretty it may look while it works.

I still stand by that this is against journalism though. I really love The Last of Us, but I just don't think it's right that it's flaws go almost completely unnoticed by most of the gaming media.

Great article Alex.

It really is a bummer. I had seen Alien a long time ago, but the fear of facehuggers (lol) actually put me off from seeing Aliens when I was younger for sometime. I watched Aliens for the first time just a couple of days before this game came out, and absolutely loved it. Not only that, but it was still very fresh in my mind, so I was so excited for a game to truly capture that atmosphere and run with it.

I can't even imagine how the long time Aliens fans feel, because my disappointment alone was really rough. And seeing that demo footage compared to the final version just makes it almost seriously depressing. The game I, and many others, wanted to play was shown to us, but not given to us. Like seriously look at some of that demo footage, it looks beautiful.

Luckily I had seen the reviews hit and resisted paying full price for it, so I rented it. The multiplayer is actually....kind of fun, and a bit more balanced than I expected. If the game was around 20-30 bucks I'd pick it up just for that. But the single player is hot, HOT garbage.

I never held anything against Gearbox for DNF. People that thought that game was actually going to be a new great shooter I thought were crazy. I always felt like Gearbox were just the people bringing whatever DNF was to a freaking shelf finally so people could play it, and honestly I didn't expect much from the game, I just wanted to see it, and I was satisfied.

This on the other hand, this is just kind of straight up messed up.

It's really sad to realize THQ is actually gone. I too thought something was going to save them. They've been one of my favorite developers of late, and they really put their heart and soul into many of their games. Of course, there were many games from them that didn't have quite as much effort, but still.

Even after the auction and everything, I still for some reason felt like there was a shred of THQ left. This article was great in showing me the reality of the situation, and where it might lead.

Excellent stuff Alex. So far this new feature for you has been great.

Rocketgirl. You are kidding me.

I'd like to see those same eight women's responses to Rocketgirl. Hell, there's actually a pretty legit game behind that stupid blown out of proportion Dead Island statue that, as far as I know, isn't concentrated on sexism.

On the other hand, why would anyone have any passing interest in Rocketgirl other than the fact that it uses scantily dressed ladies riding dicks to garner attention? Excuse me, rockets.

How is that not female exploitation at it's finest?

@DarkbeatDK said:

@ReaganStein said:

"Please don't use my sexy cleavage shot that I myself use on my public Twitter profile to illustrate my complaints about sexy cleavage statues. Because that might make me look like a hypocrite."

LOL

I don't think that's what she's saying. I think she's saying whoever chose her picture to use for this article, (I'd have to imagine it's Patrick) assumed her picture for her. Probably thinking her twitter picture with "OH NO CLEAVAGE!!" would bring down the article.

That's pretty gross on GB's side, actually. Not hers. Most of the other ladies on here just have their Twitter pic repped. I'm sure it made her feel pretty dumb when she realized GB didn't like her default pic because how it works with the article, and then didn't even ask her for another one and just picked one for her.

Kind of weird assuming choices for women in an article that's supposed to be about female strength.

Yes, that is a very, very, stupid statue. That is now getting far more attention than it deserves.

I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with this article. And this is coming from a person that thinks women that game are treated wrongly in a lot of ways which is holding back the maturity of the industry.

I might not know much about women actually in the gaming industry, but I know many woman that play games, and I feel there are far more ingrained and simply unreasonable walls in just general gaming culture that should be concentrated on before some stupid statue that really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Did I mention it's a statue of dismembered torso? Yeh, it's really fucking stupid regardless.

I truly do wish the best for woman in the gaming industry, but the problem is so deep in gaming itself, which leaks over into the industry and vice-versa. Even if something happened today and every woman had a 100% guarantee of no bias in the industry, they still can't even go home and play the games they make without being judged.

Why not organize rallies of women to take over online games for a certain period of time? The fact that every time my girlfriend gets on CoD, is already uncomfortable because she's the only girl in the entire lobby, and is instantly told to "Shut up lil boy" or "wow bitch like you know Call of Duty" the second she opens her mouth is absolutely disgusting.

Organize sessions where there's only one MAN in the lobby. Show them ladies are here to fucking stay, and deserve every bit of respect as a man pulling the left trigger and holding the right. And that a stupid fucking statue that questionably objectifies parts of the female body covered in blood (which the horror genre in any form has been exploiting, and still does, for YEARS mind you. Patrick should know that.) isn't going to put a dent in that.

I'm not saying it should just be excused and that nothing should've be said, but this is too much for something that doesn't deserve the attention, and there are far larger problems at hand that we could be solving that could prevent something like this from happening again in the future on a more important level.

Just finished this game for the first time. There is so much I could talk about, so much. But I've already been thinking about it so much, and don't want to lose my entire day typing.

But I loved it. Absolutely loved it. Loved it's depiction of a believable breakdown, I loved it's fixation on how going too far can lead to horrible results no matter what your intentions were, and I loved it's commentary on general human mindsets and the games we play today. Hell, if gaming is a big enough hobby for you, I fell like this game can damn near define you as a person.

This is game that I think more and more people will look back at over time and truly respect in many areas. Not to mention, it literally advances game story-telling in certain areas. Fan-fucking-tastic.

The elevator at the end would signal the truth in the downward trek. Although I agree with some other people, that while I did personally notice that a lot of the game had you going down, there were enough parts that had you going up as well that makes me question this metephor.